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Harvard Crimson 2013-2014

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Fortunato no longer committed to Harvard. Not sure if AI related or by choice. Big loss!
 
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Who knows the future of Adam plant and Brandon fortunato. Perhaps they can retake the SAT to try and raise their scores. Perhaps it is more than that. Perhaps these are just rumors and nothing more.

In any event. We lost Calof to Princeton which isn't exactly a lower AI school whereas other Ivies have lower AIs (Cornell) and can admit kids that Harvard can not.

I wonder if this can be translated into Donato losing credibility with admissions / AD and that his lobby can no longer get 'fringe' kids through the turnstile.

Fortunato and plant were likely Donato's #1 & #2 recruits for next year. I just hope Bracco and Fox don't have 2nd thoughts as well (if the rumors are indeed true).
 
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Calof had home school issues. Princeton never should have looked the other way. If that meets Ivy standards, I am going to have my Bulldog apply
Bracco and Fox will have zero issues, very good students. Braccos dad was dartmouth golaie, totally gets the school value
 
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bothman said:
Fortunato and plant were likely Donato's #1 & #2 recruits for next year.
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How long ago did they initially commit? We've had one or two guys decommit every year over the last 6 or 7 seasons. They had all been recruited >2 years out as opposed to the 1.5-2 players usually are. IMHO, guys are committing too early and then changing their plans. Commits, especially at non-scholarship schools, should probably all be treated as provisional until the final 6 months.
 
Kepler said:
How long ago did they initially commit? We've had one or two guys decommit every year over the last 6 or 7 seasons. They had all been recruited >2 years out as opposed to the 1.5-2 players usually are. IMHO, guys are committing too early and then changing their plans. Commits, especially at non-scholarship schools, should probably all be treated as provisional until the final 6 months.
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Supposedly AI related so Harvard changing their plans, not the other way around.
 
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Hokydad said:
Calof had home school issues. Princeton never should have looked the other way. If that meets Ivy standards, I am going to have my Bulldog apply...
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I know what you mean about home schooling sounding like a joke, but in the case of Calof the Ivies were looking at a pretty unique kid. First of all his pure speed-- there haven't been many faster skaters in the ECAC in the last 10 years. Second, the kid is very intelligent, but it's not always easily demonstrated in home schooling. Ivies view home schooling differently from school to school. If admissions challenges a coach to prove that a home schooled recruit is viable, the poor coach can be left grasping at straws. ( Calof took the ACT and did fairly well, but wouldn't take the SAT subject tests. ) The Calof family might say that a coach would have to get off his butt and really lobby hard to prove that their son merited admission, instead of just suggesting a year at prep school. But Calof's done well at Princeton-- he's no dumb jock--he didn't take the easy way out as a Chemical & Bio Engineering major. He did two high-profile internships while he was there. He really made the most of his years there as a student. In the meantime, he scored well over 100 pts for Princeton teams that at times sucked. I think you're right, Hokydad, that Princeton admissions may have looked the other way a little in his case, but things worked out well; I think they would gladly take him again.
 
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i agree, i know the kid and coached him before. very bright. very talented. parents were nice, quirky but harmless. very granolaish, if thats a word.
think parents were professors
 
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I think that if Fortunato really wants to go to Harvard, and it's an academics issue, there's a way. Didn't Alex Biega take the SATs several times until he finally got a score that met the AI?
 
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I think that if Fortunato really wants to go to Harvard, and it's an academics issue, there's a way. Didn't Alex Biega take the SATs several times until he finally got a score that met the AI?
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Agreed, but the AI is about a bunch of things, not just SATs. Perhaps it's grades?

It's very frustrating. Harvard knows the AI required to get in as a slam dunk vs the fringe. Perhaps Fortunato took a risk as a fringe player and didn't deliver the SAT/grades combo to get over the hump. Or, perhaps as I have alluded to in prior posts, Donato has lost his ability to deliver the fringe player. If the latter, the addressable market for Harvard hockey just took a major hit which would be deeply concerning.

Fingers crossed that this is a SAT thing that can be mitigated through effort and retaking the test again. Perhaps fortunato wants to hedge and have another school in his back pocket in case he doesn't reach the threshold to qualify?

Everyone will argue that The Harvard name means a ton in hockey and do recruiting should never be an issue. However, we have lost a lot of guys over the years due to AI issues, and to not consider that, is short-sighted.
 
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nice bball game today.

of course this should only reinforce the need to change the guard on the hockey bench. (but most of you know this already - it's just that other guy)
 
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