Gophers at Bulldogs Oct 14 & 15 - No more well wishes

[SanTropez]

Re: Gophers at Bulldogs Oct 14 & 15 - No more well wishes

Anyway, back to the topic! I read an interesting article about Minnesota having 19 or so (can't remember specific numbers, & too lazy to look it up) underclassmen on the team. I know it was only Sacred Heart that they rolled over, but if they can build on that young talent, they may catapult Goldy back into the national spotlight.

Yeah they have some young guys who have some talent for sure, if they stay and don't bolt from College this team could be very good in the future.

 

[SanTropez]

Re: Gophers at Bulldogs Oct 14 & 15 - No more well wishes

For Hoven and SOH...

 

[gopher wes]

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I find it odd that Gopher fans cheered for us as well. Probably for several reasons, wanted to see us win our first title (we are still four behind them so not a real threat (yet)). It also helps that UMD is part of the UMN system. We are luckily not a MNSCU school.

2. MSU and Michigan have a heated rivalry for a long time. I highly doubt that any Michigan fan would cheer for an OSU team.


Would you cheer for Western, or Ferris if they were in the same position as UMD?

I also feel like the UMD/UM series isn't as heated as others. I don't feel the hostility when I come to Duluth like I feel when I go to Kato, Cloud, or sue. It's definitely a friendly rivalry as far as I am concerned.

 

[gopher wes]

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Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you. I too have heard a few people who are putting the cart before the horse. I just hope that most Gopher fans are cautiously optimistic

Yeah, I wasn't trying to call you out. I was agreeing with your point of view as being cautiously optimistic unlike some people I have talked to.

 

[gopher wes]

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I'm gonna hammerfalconpunch you for quoting that stupid *ing song.

That being said, I won't cheer for SCSU or Mankato. Ever. They just don't matter. Of course, there's always an exception to the rule: when they face UND/WI. Then I cheer for the refs.

Agreed. I could be convinced to pull for Cloud or Kato(in my head maybe) if they were playing a team like sue, sconnie, or Mich. Like at the regional a couple years ago, we were applauded by the NMU fans for trying to help them out even though our efforts fell short and Cloud now feels as if they have accomplished something.

 

[SanTropez]

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Jan needs to feel good about something.

 

[gopher wes]

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Jan needs to feel good about something.

No they don't. They are, for some reason, kind of arrogant as it is. The fact that they finally won a tourney game gives their fans a false sense of accomplishment.

EDIT: That is the feeling I get from Cloud fans I have talked to, but not the Cloud fans on this board. The Cloud guys around here are pretty cool.

 

[SanTropez]

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No they don't. They are, for some reason, kind of arrogant as it is. The fact that they finally won a tourney game gives their fans a false sense of accomplishment.

...well they do have that 'we won an NCAA tourney game' banner and all.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

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Friends don't let friends cheer for Suzy. They may become this.

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[gopher wes]

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That is still so crazy to me to see a grown man do something that childish(yes I have done stupid things but this....really?). I was so happy when I saw Mich score that I missed this live lol

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Friends don't let friends cheer for Suzy. They may become this.

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So happy Michigan won that game. So happy.

 

[MichiganHockey27]

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Ha, I do love that picture though...*** in his wife's face and all!! I also remember reading a hilarious article that was mocking some guy from NoDak who evidently punched a hole in a wall at Xcel after that loss. The whole article ripped on both those guys.

As for getting the young players to stay at Minny...I think Mr. Lucia has a lot to do with that. I've heard from friends close to the source saying that he has absolutely no idea how to develop players properly, which is why Minnesota has been losing lots of young talent over the past few years. I saw Lucia's son committed to Notre Dame, which might be saying something about Don's future...

 

[JDUBBS1280]

Ha, I do love that picture though...*** in his wife's face and all!! I also remember reading a hilarious article that was mocking some guy from NoDak who evidently punched a hole in a wall at Xcel after that loss. The whole article ripped on both those guys.

As for getting the young players to stay at Minny...I think Mr. Lucia has a lot to do with that. I've heard from friends close to the source saying that he has absolutely no idea how to develop players properly, which is why Minnesota has been losing lots of young talent over the past few years. I saw Lucia's son committed to Notre Dame, which might be saying something about Don's future...

The "Lucia can't develop players" talk is such a load of crap, all started by that stupid situation with that arrogant ***** Garth Snow. Do I really need to list all the players who played under Lucia who are in the NHL right now?

 

[SanTropez]

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As for getting the young players to stay at Minny...I think Mr. Lucia has a lot to do with that. I've heard from friends close to the source saying that he has absolutely no idea how to develop players properly, which is why Minnesota has been losing lots of young talent over the past few years. I saw Lucia's son committed to Notre Dame, which might be saying something about Don's future...

It sounds like Mario would have played for the Gophers but Coach Lucia sort of 'pushed' him to play for Notre Dame, too many headaches possibly with his other son playing for the Gophers and he wanted to be a dad and not a coach this time around. Gopher Puck Live web site has some good info on this topic.

I also think the whole Lucia can't develop players is a load of crap, look at the former Gopher players under Lucia in the NHL currently.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

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Mario is a great player, but I really think some people are making too big of a deal out of him choosing Notre Dame. Don has said on more than one occasion that he pushed Mario in that direction, to avoid complications, and that the Gophers have other forward recruits the are looking at.

If they land Mario, they may not have had the room for Cammarata and Fasching, and those two are more important forward recruits to land IMO.

After all, we just brought in several talented forwards and have Kloos, Guertler, and the Reilly brothers in the wings. Land commitments from Fasching and Cammarata and this group of forward prospects is the best in the nation IMO.

 

[SanTropez]

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Mario is a great player, but I really think some people are making too big of a deal out of him choosing Notre Dame. Don has said on more than one occasion that he pushed Mario in that direction, to avoid complications, and that the Gophers have other forward recruits the are looking at.

If they land Mario, they may not have had the room for Cammarata and Fasching, and those two are more important forward recruits to land IMO.

After all, we just brought in several talented forwards and have Kloos, Guertler, and the Reilly brothers in the wings. Land commitments from Fasching and Cammarata and this group of forward prospects is the best in the nation IMO.

Agreed

 

[MichiganHockey27]

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The "Lucia can't develop players" talk is such a load of crap, all started by that stupid situation with that arrogant ***** Garth Snow. Do I really need to list all the players who played under Lucia who are in the NHL right now?

What happened with the Garth Snow situation (I'm out of the loop)? And from what I've heard from friends, is that some players felt they could better develop and prepare for the next level elsewhere. I think Ness, and Leddy are some recent players I can think of, both great defensemen, but possibly could have gained more from staying another year (or two). Minnesota has been hit hard with early departures within the last decade, and maybe I'm misinformed, but I wanted to see what everyone thought about it. Besides, I'm not aware of anyone on Minnesota's roster that could potentially leave early...or at least there's not much hype built up around the younger players, which means if they all stick around, they could do some damage within the next few years.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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What happened with the Garth Snow situation (I'm out of the loop)? And from what I've heard from friends, is that some players felt they could better develop and prepare for the next level elsewhere. I think Ness, and Leddy are some recent players I can think of, both great defensemen, but possibly could have gained more from staying another year (or two). Minnesota has been hit hard with early departures within the last decade, and maybe I'm misinformed, but I wanted to see what everyone thought about it. Besides, I'm not aware of anyone on Minnesota's roster that could potentially leave early...or at least there's not much hype built up around the younger players, which means if they all stick around, they could do some damage within the next few years.

The issue wasn't Lucia. Lucia works with the forwards. The issue was Hill who was in charge of the defense. Guentzel is there now so that should be on the right track.

Snow pulled Okposo out of the "U" midyear of his sophmore season and claimed it was because Minnesota couldn't develop his players properly. Funny thing is the Islanders have sucked and still suck, so evidently they can't develop their players either. Montreal claimed the same thing with David Fischer but the rumor there was that they were so embarrassed they used a #1 draft pick on him that they were trying to cover their own ***.

 

[Biddco]

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Friends don't let friends cheer for Suzy. They may become this.

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Just when you think UND fans and their players cannot continue their history hilarity, something like this comes along . Classic.

 

[JDUBBS1280]

What happened with the Garth Snow situation (I'm out of the loop)? And from what I've heard from friends, is that some players felt they could better develop and prepare for the next level elsewhere. I think Ness, and Leddy are some recent players I can think of, both great defensemen, but possibly could have gained more from staying another year (or two). Minnesota has been hit hard with early departures within the last decade, and maybe I'm misinformed, but I wanted to see what everyone thought about it. Besides, I'm not aware of anyone on Minnesota's roster that could potentially leave early...or at least there's not much hype built up around the younger players, which means if they all stick around, they could do some damage within the next few years.

I think what your friends meant was, "John Hill couldn't develop defensive talent". I agree, but he's gone now. You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks the same about Guentzel.

As far as the Garth Snow situation, this article (and Lucia interview) sums it up pretty well:

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