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Golden Gopher Women's Hockey 2009-2010

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Okay, here is the GopherSports.com post game recap.

On the other discussion...
just_a_fan said:
I hear a lot of flack thrown Miller's way for these conversations. But, it seems to me that a lot of coaches have these with refs at games-- so I'm not sure why that is a problem. Isn't that allowed? Would we not do the same if we were coaches looking out for our players?

Now as to what goes on in these conversations I can't attest to. I do know I've heard a lot of them sitting behind the Dogs bench at home and I can't say that they do always work out in her favor.
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In response to your first paragraph, I don't think it's as common for it to happen at the end of a period -- particularly when the other team and their coaches have left the ice. And there's a question of frequency as well -- at the Bulldog games I've attended (mostly against the Gophers), I've seen it occur roughly two times every three games on average.

Now, to temper that, I don't disagree with your last question in the first paragraph. And the refs did stop at the Gophers bench a couple of times today when Frosty wanted to "chat" as well (though none of those were between periods).

I'll concede that whether it worked or not probably depends on the observer's rooting interest, and leave it at that.
 
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CrazyDave said:
Why do Shannon Miller's end-of-period "conversations" with the officials seem to work in UMD's favor WAY more often than not?
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Agreeing with a previous post that, at home, this isn't always the case. When we get Lick at home - which, unfortunately, happens too often for my liking - it doesn't always go our way. My theory? We get Dan L. at the DECC so often that experience has taught her which buttons to push with him. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
 
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ARM said:
Looking ahead, because in another 18 hours it will all be decided and too late to look ahead ...
And just looking at the possible Gopher opponents, because this is our thread ...
So if I follow, we could host any of Colgate, Connecticut, Cornell, Harvard. From an unfamiliarity perspective, Cornell would rank highest, because the two teams last met in February of 1999 -- we're due. We hosted UConn for a game on the opening weekend in the fall of 2006 when the current seniors were starting their careers, so we are due to see them as well. We saw Harvard last season, Clarkson during this one. So because I like to see different teams, I'd rank my preferences Cornell, UConn, Harvard, Clarkson. This does not mean I think one would be easier to beat than another. Those familiar with recent Gopher history know we are probably headed to OT no matter who we face.
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Clarkson at 4 pm saturday
 
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I quit for the night.. as far as photo editing.. I was going to do the OSU/Minnesota pictures from the double OT game tonight but will save that for tomorrow night (it'll be 45-50 here I'm going out in the woods with camera and fresh air)

Championship game pictures if anyone's interested.. UMD mostly but a few good shots of Gophers, including Raty (yes she did re-direct the shot with the knob of her stick.

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and this guy :D

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ARM said:
Gophersports announcement.
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Hopefully more fans come out for this game so the home ice gives the Gophers the big advantage that it should be! The team will have plenty of time to (a) recuperate and (b) prepare for Clarkson, who as the visitor and underdog will approach this game like they have everything to gain and nothing to lose. Unlike today the Gophers will need to establish dominance from the get-go and make sure they grab the early lead.
 
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So where are we? We can look at yesterday's game, claim the Gophers didn't get the bounces or the calls, and say that we'll be just fine going forward. But it's hard to get much in the way of friendly bounces when you play most of the first period in your own zone, and calls could as easily get more hurtful than helpful. Of the things they can control, what needs to improve for Minnesota to be a factor in the NCAA tournament?

Play 60 minutes -- we've struggled with this for a long time. In a win-or-go-home scenario against good opponents, bad periods prove fatal. We can't start slow, disappear in the second period, or take a run of penalties and lose all momentum. We have to keep coming, putting on pressure, and play the majority of the game in the other team's end, because we aren't solid enough in our own D-zone to live there.

Value puck possession -- particularly yesterday, we'd work to get the puck, then give it away once we did.

Greatly reduce undisciplined plays -- if you know everything that is going on in Dorene's life, this probably means you.:p

No horrific turnovers -- several prime examples from the weekend are burned into my memory, only one of which resulted in a goal against. All involved mishandles toward our own slot or weak passes near the offensive blue line. I doubt that these plays are being made in practice; don't make them in games.

Superhuman effort in net -- is this fair? No. But pre-Olympics, teams scored more than two goals against Noora once. In the four games since her return, they've done so each time. Are those goals her fault? In almost all cases, no. But before she left, she stopped all kinds of pucks that she had zero business stopping, and we became a contender in large part based on that. Some dropoff is certainly understandable, predictable even, but probably not survivable unless her teammates do a lot more to help her.

Fan support -- not enough Gopher faithful, and those who find their way into Ridder are pretty quiet. It's okay to cheer at times other than when we've scored a goal. Dave, you're off the hook on this one, given we've been provided with visual evidence of your involvement.:)

Goph's, we have a unique opportunity: win three straight on home ice and hoist our game's most coveted prize. Okay, maybe not that unique given the Gophers and Bulldogs have had the same chance in the last five years and the Lakers could next year. I'm not going to quote Herb Brooks and claim that if you lose, you'll take it to your graves, but if you win, it'll be the defining moment of your Gopher careers.:cool:
 
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I don't see enough of them to really critique much.. but from what I saw this weekend, against OSU *AND* UMD.. I'd have to agree about the D-Zone stuff.. I haven't even looked at the OSU/Minnesota game pictures yet (I'll get to it, tonight sometime) but all of their goals were scored on scrums in front as were all 3 UMD goals (OK, Blais tipped a Rasmussen shot, but it was because noone tied her up in front of the net.)

The defense isn't doing a good job of supporting Raty right now is the one observation I got from the weekend.
 
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ARM said:
Greatly reduce undisciplined plays -- if you know everything that is going on in Dorene's life, this probably means you.:p

No horrific turnovers -- several prime examples from the weekend are burned into my memory, only one of which resulted in a goal against. All involved mishandles toward our own slot or weak passes near the offensive blue line. I doubt that these plays are being made in practice; don't make them in games.

Fan support -- not enough Gopher faithful, and those who find their way into Ridder are pretty quiet. It's okay to cheer at times other than when we've scored a goal. Dave, you're off the hook on this one, given we've been provided with visual evidence of your involvement.:)

Goph's, we have a unique opportunity: win three straight on home ice and hoist our game's most coveted prize. Okay, maybe not that unique given the Gophers and Bulldogs have had the same chance in the last five years and the Lakers could next year. I'm not going to quote Herb Brooks and claim that if you lose, you'll take it to your graves, but if you win, it'll be the defining moment of your Gopher careers.:cool:
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Keep preaching ARM. I think no horrific turnovers means stop making passes across the offensive blueline when your partner is changing and there are two defenders near you. I think that would include drop passes in the defensive zone behind your teammate and the forwards pressuring the puck as well.

Fan support...you mean it's not Halloween and everyone is dressed as empty seats? Sorry stole that from Eric Means and Des Christopher from my Mankato days. We need more help from the media. Other than KARE 11, does anyone do anything to help the program? I have a number of friends that think I'm nuts following women's hockey until they see a game. It was pretty sad that the Bullydog fans were louder than the Gopher fans and it was the Gophers' arena.
 
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taz91 said:
Other than KARE 11, does anyone do anything to help the program?
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Mike Max had Noora and Westy on "Rosen Sports Sunday" on WCCO last night. But yes, your point is valid.
 
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ARM said:
So where are we? ... Of the things they can control, what needs to improve for Minnesota to be a factor in the NCAA tournament?
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ARM -- Fully concur with everything you said.

ARM said:
Fan support -- Dave, you're off the hook on this one, given we've been provided with visual evidence of your involvement.:)
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Thanks (I think :o ). What we really need is to get some U. students (additional to the band) at the game, however unlikely that is to happen.

ARM said:
Mike Max had Noora and Westy on "Rosen Sports Sunday" on WCCO last night.
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That video is available on WCCO.com for anyone that missed it.
 
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Time for a history lesson :p :

It was 10 years ago when the Gophers lost to UMD in the WCHA championship game, faced UMD again in the national (then-AWCHA) semifinal and beat them, and went on to win the national championship game.

It would really be nice for history to repeat itself. ;)
 
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I just read the Brausen/Ms. Hockey story on Gophersports.com. Interesting that this is the 3rd or 4th place I've seen the same error--they mention that Brausen is the 3rd Roseville player to win the award, following Winny and Ronda--omitting Renee Curtin. Renee would have been in the Gopher's class of 2005, as if that team weren't loaded enough!
Wildly unscientific personal opinion: Renee Curtin was the best girls' hockey player ever to play for Roseville HS. Still holds the Minnesota HS career scoring title, something like 550 points. I'm sure it's not true that she's being forgotten, hopefully it's just a slip.
 
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capitalist said:
Renee would have been in the Gopher's class of 2005, as if that team weren't loaded enough!
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She would have potentially made a huge difference in 2001-02 and 02-03, teams that wound up thin at forward.

capitalist said:
I'm sure it's not true that she's being forgotten, hopefully it's just a slip.
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She does appear in the paragraph below that lists all winners, so it must have just been a slip in extracting the Roseville-specific Ms. Hockeys. She also is listed in the Gopher media guide under Gopher Ms. Hockey winners, but w/o a photo, because she was never able to suit up. I wonder if she was omitted in the official "Let's Play Hockey" press release?
 
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