Global War on Terror 9: Winter Is Here.

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Tell that to Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema...

Manchin's seat is likely as good as gone to a fascist in 2022 anyway, so Spineless Schumer needs to offer him whatever pet project money and other pork he wants for W.Va. in exchange for votes on other things.

 

[Kepler]

You guys are all wound up about Cruz and Hawley and these other clowns.

THEY ARE IN THE MINORITY.

That's two guys but the entire organized party cowers before them and Dump and 74 million people vote for that party. How the hell is America supposed to survive when 74 million people are either outright Nazis (maybe 10 million) or their drooling, slack-jawed dupes (the rest)?

 

[Kepler]

In 29 years, my wife will still be 26, same as when I met her.

You and me both.

 

[Kepler]

DHS posts a Nazi alert.

 

[Handyman]

In 29 years, my wife will still be 26, same as when I met her.

 

[Handyman]

Manchin's seat is likely as good as gone to a fascist in 2022 anyway, so Spineless Schumer needs to offer him whatever pet project money and other pork he wants for W.Va. in exchange for votes on other things.

The only vote that matters is the filibuster. No amount of pork will fix that. Blaming Schumer is shortsighted.

 

[bronconick]

Manchin's seat is likely as good as gone to a fascist in 2024 anyway, so Spineless Schumer needs to offer him whatever pet project money and other pork he wants for W.Va. in exchange for votes on other things.

Fixed

 

[Handyman]

Either way it doesn't matter...no amount of pork is changing his mind.

Meanwhile the House GOP has gone full Trump. He will force Cheney and the other 9 out.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Everyone has a price

 

[Handyman]

Everyone has a price

His price is keeping his job. Problem is he thinks going along with Schumer loses him his job. They could pave repave every road, double up all the mines and give tanks to every police department in WV and he feels he will still lose in '24. (and he is likely right)

I don't know what Sinema's problem is...

 

[St. Clown]

Will your wife? It isnt the father that I take issue with. A woman having a kid at 50, while possible, seems highly unlikely.

Either way it is a funny story :^)

I will be 72 when my baby turns 30, and my wife will be 65. Even with my wife being relatively old by that time, it's still a long ways from 80, considering the context.

 

[MichVandal]

Something to consider- the MAGAs and the entire racist party is being beaten by terrorism. They are folding to the harm threat of dumpy and his worshipers.

Talk about a difference from 2001. Who would have thought that the right would cave to terrorists.

 

[Handyman]

Something to consider- the MAGAs and the entire racist party is being beaten by terrorism. They are folding to the harm threat of dumpy and his worshipers.

Talk about a difference from 2001. Who would have thought that the right would cave to terrorists.

Money has a way of doing that...

 

[LynahFan]

Something to consider- the MAGAs and the entire racist party is being beaten by terrorism. They are folding to the harm threat of dumpy and his worshipers.

Talk about a difference from 2001. Who would have thought that the right would cave to terrorists.

I’ve forgotten a great many things, but I distinctly remember after the 2004 election lecturing someone like Priceless or Rover or one of their predecessors who was in disbelief that W could have won re-election. Having lived at that point in rural TN, rural NY, rural VT, and Ft. Worth, TX, I said that he was naive for not realizing just how crazy conservative huge swaths of the country are.

Turns out that I had no idea just how crazy they were, either. My apologies, Rover or Priceless or whoever you were.

 

[dxmnkd316]

His price is keeping his job. Problem is he thinks going along with Schumer loses him his job. They could pave repave every road, double up all the mines and give tanks to every police department in WV and he feels he will still lose in '24. (and he is likely right)

I don't know what Sinema's problem is...

Wait, we’re still of the belief he’s going to run again in 4 years?

he’ll be 77 and effectively a COL billionaire if he stays in WV. No way.

 

[Kepler]

I will be 72 when my baby turns 30, and my wife will be 65.

My parents did this and it sucked for me. Do better.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Right now I’m 36. We were looking to start a family this year sometime after the honeymoon. Kiiiiinda had a change of plans

 

[Kepler]

I don't know what Sinema's problem is...

From everything I know about her (granted, second hand through the AZ Dems) there's nothing wrong with her. I have not heard her statements about this but I think it is possible the vultures may have gotten a hold of something and blown it out of proportion.

I expect both AZ Dems to be unremarkable backbenchers. Statewide Dems will not be liberal for another decade at least, but their core is urban so they won't be Knuckledragging Dems like Manchin or ol' Zell Miller from back in the day.

 

[St. Clown]

My parents did this and it sucked for me. Do better.

My parents were 37 and 38 when I was born, and both passed relatively young; I was 36 by the time they both died. My eyes are open to what my baby and any of her future siblings could face.

 

[psych]

The filibuster vote isn’t everything. Manchin will play along with plenty of stuff in one of Bernie’s reconciliation bills. Manchin has said no on the filibuster for months now. Same with Sinema. It looks like she’s voted with Trump or held his official position as much as Manchin %-wise, and look at how much we rip Manchin. According to fivethirtyeight’s Trump’s +/- score, she’s Trumpier than McConnell. Anyways, I digress.
If writing solid reconciliation bills that can get Manchin and Sinema on board with 50% of the liberal agenda isn’t what Bernie was really put on this planet for, I guess I’m at a loss. If the man isn’t prepared for this moment, based on the likelihood that reconciliation might be the only path forward for a solidly progressive agenda- but certainly better than having no solidly progressive agenda on the table at all were it 51R/49D, shame on us for believing in him. If he hasn’t been talking to Manchin and Sinema for weeks now, if not months, about what they want, and how Bernie will make sure the federal f-cking government gets most of what they want, then shame on us for believing in him. I’m going to give it some more time. I guess I had accepted weeks ago that the filibuster likely wasn’t going to be dismantled, so Manchin and Sinema reasserting that changes little for me, as I’m assuming it changes little for Bernie, Schumer, etc. As an aside, McConnell won nothing on giving into the power-sharing agreement.