Ford field attendance

[Rover]

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So what I've learned from this thread is that the "Boston A**hole" stereotype is pretty accurate in the case of some residents.

You want to keep believing that the Northeast is God's country and the only part of America worth visiting, you go right ahead. The rest of us know better.

For the record, putting aside my home town I'd rather be in NY, Chicago, DC, Miami, New Orleans, Denver, etc than any of the crappy cities on my list.

You know Fade, you might want to consult a map. Then you may learn that Chicago, Miami, DC, New Orleans, and Denver are not, in fact, located in the Northeast portion of the United States. (now wait for some lame argument while he tries to prove that DC technically belongs in the north east.)

 

[wolverineTrumpet]

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We all like our hometowns but Detroit really is the worst city in America. I've been there a few times and it seems to get worse everytime I go. Sure, the Frozen Four will be full of people, but why is it that the "Hobo Convention" the city has been hosting for the past 5 years is still going on?

I love my hometown, and the big city of Baltimore that it was closest to. I currently reside somewhere between Ann Arbor which is a great town and Ypsilanti which has an ok couple of blocks and is otherwise a dump. I'm not a "hooray Detroit is the greatest place ever" person, I just would like others to recognize it is like most large cities. There are things to do in touristy/safer areas and there are areas you have no business being in and should avoid.

Swami, I've been to these places and they blow dogs. Baltimore sucks with a capital S. It gives Detroit a run for its money as the most run down city in the country. Okay, so you can see Ft McHenry and a couple of blocks that have been gentrified by the harbor. Then, if you dare, you can go see Poe's grave. That's it. Unless graffiti or drug dealing is your thing, you're finished. BTW, somebody forget to tell the bums that the lovely inner harbor area's water fountains should not be used for bathing purposes, because the last time I was there the whole lot of them didn't get the memo.

Philly is even worse. The whole city looks like its covered in black soot. Hit Independence Hall, stop by Geno's for a steak and cheese....and you're done. A boring, dangerous city with no reason to visit. Yes, putting up some generic bars around the sporting complex really adds to the ambience.

So, to sum up, if you're the kind of person who finds Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincy, Detroit, Philly, KC, Omaha, Buffalo, or St. Louis to be "happening" places, God bless ya, but you've got an odd sense of what qualifies as a good time.

The inner harbor area of Baltimore is great. I love showing off Baltimore to my friends from other areas.

Have fun staying in your little shell and avoiding the reality of America, because that's what it sounds like you'd like to do. I've traveled all over this country and been from big cities to little civil war battlefields in the middle of nowhere.

I think it's great that the Frozen Four travels to different cities. I even like that the regionals travel around a bit too. I've been to Albany and Bridgeport to watch hockey in the last few years. Awesome locations but I still enjoyed my time there and the chance to see more of the US.


So, yes, Detroit is not the greatest city in America (surprise!) and watching hockey in a football stadium is awful. However, if you come to the Frozen Four this year you get to enjoy some great college hockey games (if you can see them) and a city that has something you'll enjoy, if you look for it.

 

[bigblue_dl]

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Ummm...Boston, and if you'd rather spend time in Philly or Baltimore than here you need your head examined.

For the record, putting aside my home town I'd rather be in NY, Chicago, DC, Miami, New Orleans, Denver, etc than any of the crappy cities on my list.

New Orleans. Yes. I would never want to live there, but as a Frozen 4 destination, I am 100% on board. If it is in New Orleans, I wouldn't care if they put the games in a basketball arena, the superdome, an outdoor baseball field or the middle of bourbon street, I would be there.

So what I've learned from this thread is that the "Boston A**hole" stereotype is pretty accurate in the case of some residents.

You want to keep believing that the Northeast is God's country and the only part of America worth visiting, you go right ahead. The rest of us know better.

Agreed, we all know that Minnesota is god's country.

People who go to the frozen four this year will have a good time in Detroit. They will come back here and talk about how much of a pleasant surprise it was.

This is what will happen.

"We had an awesome time despite Detroit being a complete ****hole."
Basically describes the time I had in Detroit. But ****, you could have a helluva good time in Des Moines if you're with good friends have plenty of booze.

 

[Puck Swami]

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Swami, I've been to these places and they blow dogs. Baltimore sucks with a capital S. It gives Detroit a run for its money as the most run down city in the country. Okay, so you can see Ft McHenry and a couple of blocks that have been gentrified by the harbor. Then, if you dare, you can go see Poe's grave. That's it. Unless graffiti or drug dealing is your thing, you're finished. BTW, somebody forget to tell the bums that the lovely inner harbor area's water fountains should not be used for bathing purposes, because the last time I was there the whole lot of them didn't get the memo.

Philly is even worse. The whole city looks like its covered in black soot. Hit Independence Hall, stop by Geno's for a steak and cheese....and you're done. A boring, dangerous city with no reason to visit. Yes, putting up some generic bars around the sporting complex really adds to the ambience.

So, to sum up, if you're the kind of person who finds Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Cincy, Detroit, Philly, KC, Omaha, Buffalo, or St. Louis to be "happening" places, God bless ya, but you've got an odd sense of what qualifies as a good time. ....

Maybe I do have an odd sense of what qualifies as a good time, but it brings me enormous pleasure from travel. I travel a lot for work and fun - I've seen most of the US and I've been to about 50 countries outside the USA, so I've been developing a decent context for what I see. I am one of those people that can have a great time in every city by being curious, respectful and interested in finding the soul of a city in it's attractions, it's history, it's role, it's food and it's people. That doesn't mean that I'm oblivious to danger, decay and urban blight, but I think there is more to everyplace than meets the eye, and I am careful not to dismiss places before I've really had a chance to enjoy them.

Take Buffalo for example. I lot of people ripped the city when it was picked to host the NCAAs some years ago. And looking around at parts of it, you could easily just call it a dump and forget you were ever there. But I did my homework, and I knew there would be more than meets the eye. On the tourney off day that year, I had started at the Albright Knox Art Museum in the morning, which was a sensational art museum - world class art in a great building. Lunch was Schwabl's - an unassuming road house where I had a "Beef on Weck" a local specialty roast beef sandwich on a special local salty roll which was nothing short of a culinary ephiphany - one of those regional food memories that stands up to my first Pain Chocolate in Paris, a New Orleans Muffaletta, sushi in the Tokyo Fish market or an empanada in Santiago or a Philly Cheese Steak.

From there, it was on to explore some of the city architecture and parks, where I saw some amazing examples by key American icons such as Louis Sullivan, Frank Lloyd Wright and Frederic Olmstead, as well as the place where President McKinley was shot in 1902. Then it was on to hitting a few pubs and galleries in the fun Allentown section of the city and the day was capped off by an energetic evening at the Anchor Bar, with lots of famous chicken wings and good showings of college hockey fans from around the country. All in all, it was a great day.

My point here is that if you look under the surface, ask around and do a little bit of research on where you are going, you can have an amazing time just about anywhere. And that's what makes travel fun, at least for me.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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I can't believe people are making the arguments being made here. Detroit is an absolute craphole of a city. This is practically indisputable.

Oh you people that live in nice cities are such JERKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Rover]

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Have fun staying in your little shell and avoiding the reality of America, because that's what it sounds like you'd like to do. I've traveled all over this country and been from big cities to little civil war battlefields in the middle of nowhere.

I think it's great that the Frozen Four travels to different cities. I even like that the regionals travel around a bit too. I've been to Albany and Bridgeport to watch hockey in the last few years. Awesome locations but I still enjoyed my time there and the chance to see more of the US.


So, yes, Detroit is not the greatest city in America (surprise!) and watching hockey in a football stadium is awful. However, if you come to the Frozen Four this year you get to enjoy some great college hockey games (if you can see them) and a city that has something you'll enjoy, if you look for it.

Trumpet, instead of getting on my case, you should be thanking me. Why, you ask? Because until someone admits there's a problem, these $#!t hole places will never improve. Detroit's grand idea for revitalizing the city was to build three casinos. Casinos, in a place where the unemployement rate is 35%, there's no tourism to speak of, and half the population is on public assistance. This is leadership? No.

Baltimore's grand idea was to spend half a billion dollars on a football team that plays 8 home games a year. That makes no economic sense.

As far as "staying in my shell" I've been the cities I've already mentioned as well as Key West, Savannah, Paris, Mexico, Belize, Denver, Salt Lake City, Atlanta, Montreal, as well as coastal Maine, the Vermont mountains, the Georgia islands, and the Arizona desert. This doesn't make the a world traveler, and I may or may not have been more places than you. Regardless, its given me a perspective of where you want to be, and where you want to avoid. Detroit, Baltimore, and Philly are easy calls. They are hollowed out cities in desperate need of revitalizion. Nothing was worse than New York in the 70's and 80's, a place I saw up close (the Bronx, Times Square, etc) before it turned around. If that city could do it, why not these other ones (and again, I'm not talking about a two block area by the sports arena).

 

[SPIN CONTROL]

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I can't believe people are making the arguments being made here. Detroit is an absolute craphole of a city. This is practically indisputable.

C'mon Nick, where's your sense of adventure? Dodging bullets and trying to avoid stepping on broken crack vials can be a very enjoyable experience.

 

[gscott13]

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I can't believe people are making the arguments being made here. Detroit is an absolute craphole of a city. This is practically indisputable.

Oh you people that live in nice cities are such JERKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

regardless, you need to get your *** to detroit my friend...

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

 

[Slasher7]

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Maybe I do have an odd sense of what qualifies as a good time, but it brings me enormous pleasure from travel. I travel a lot for work and fun - I've seen most of the US and I've been to about 50 countries outside the USA, so I've been developing a decent context for what I see. I am one of those people that can have a great time in every city by being curious, respectful and interested in finding the soul of a city in it's attractions, it's history, it's role, it's food and it's people. That doesn't mean that I'm oblivious to danger, decay and urban blight, but I think there is more to everyplace than meets the eye, and I am careful not to dismiss places before I've really had a chance to enjoy them.

Take Buffalo for example. I lot of people ripped the city when it was picked to host the NCAAs some years ago. And looking around at parts of it, you could easily just call it a dump and forget you were ever there. But I did my homework, and I knew there would be more than meets the eye. On the tourney off day that year, I had started at the Albright Knox Art Museum in the morning, which was a sensational art museum - world class art in a great building. Lunch was Schwabl's - an unassuming road house where I had a "Beef on Weck" a local specialty roast beef sandwich on a special local salty roll which was nothing short of a culinary ephiphany - one of those regional food memories that stands up to my first Pain Chocolate in Paris, a New Orleans Muffaletta, sushi in the Tokyo Fish market or an empanada in Santiago or a Philly Cheese Steak.

From there, it was on to explore some of the city architecture and parks, where I saw some amazing examples by key American icons such as Louis Sullivan, Frank Lloyd Wright and Frederic Olmstead, as well as the place where President McKinley was shot in 1902. Then it was on to hitting a few pubs and galleries in the fun Allentown section of the city and the day was capped off by an energetic evening at the Anchor Bar, with lots of famous chicken wings and good showings of college hockey fans from around the country. All in all, it was a great day.

My point here is that if you look under the surface, ask around and do a little bit of research on where you are going, you can have an amazing time just about anywhere. And that's what makes travel fun, at least for me.

Swami, have you been to Detroit? If not, picture Colfax Avenue in Denver but it's every street in the city.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

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My point here is that if you look under the surface, ask around and do a little bit of research on where you are going, you can have an amazing time just about anywhere. And that's what makes travel fun, at least for me.

Swami is dead on. I'm not saying Detroit is perfect (far from it), but it's not impossible to enjoy yourself if you're willing to do even a bit of research. I'm sorry to hear that some of you are too lazy to bother and would rather laugh along with the rest of your ilk instead.

That said, I know Rover, Nick, etc. are also just trolling at this point (as they are famous for, from what I've seen as long as I've been posting here), and I'm not taking that bait. I'm sure you'll be better off watching it on TV at home and letting the attendees enjoy themselves, since the world needs fewer arrogant a-holes anyway. Have a wonderful day!

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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C'mon Nick, where's your sense of adventure? Dodging bullets and trying to avoid stepping on broken crack vials can be a very enjoyable experience.

But but but but but...

"THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY! DETROIT HAS BARS AND RESTAURANTS!!!!!"

Sorry... just wanted to see what it felt like to argue on behalf of Detroit... felt stupid... I'll go back to making sense now.

 

[joegrav]

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I'm sure it'll be fine. But some people are looking for more than "fine" if they're going to drop money to go to the FF if their team isn't in it. Period.

The only good thing about it being in Ford Field is that tickets should be reasonably easy to get.

 

[Slasher7]

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Swami is dead on. I'm not saying Detroit is perfect (far from it), but it's not impossible to enjoy yourself if you're willing to do even a bit of research. I'm sorry to hear that some of you are too lazy to bother and would rather laugh along with the rest of your ilk instead.

That said, I know Rover, Nick, etc. are also just trolling at this point (as they are famous for, from what I've seen as long as I've been posting here), and I'm not taking that bait. I'm sure you'll be better off watching it on TV at home and letting the attendees enjoy themselves, since the world needs fewer arrogant a-holes anyway. Have a wonderful day!

Maybe we can just get the border redrawn and stick this city into Canada. I think most wouldn't have a problem with that.

 

[Slasher7]

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But but but but but...

"THAT HAPPENS IN EVERY CITY! DETROIT HAS BARS AND RESTAURANTS!!!!!"

Sorry... just wanted to see what it felt like to argue on behalf of Detroit... felt stupid... I'll go back to making sense now.

I hear South Central L.A. has a really good Mexican restaurant. Maybe the NCAA should put the Frozen Four there someday...

 

[CHATJ]

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I work downtown and never had any problem. Also have been to many Tigers and Red Wings night games, and still have never ran into a problem.

Only problem I have ever had at Detroit is when I was coming back from Windsor back in the day, got off the Highway to find a bathroom and couldn't figure out how to get back on! Also couldn't find a bathroom!

 

[Puck Swami]

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Swami, have you been to Detroit? If not, picture Colfax Avenue in Denver but it's every street in the city.

I've been to Detroit many times in the last 5 years, and was there for the 1990 NCAAs when Wisconsin blew out Colgate for all the marbles. Yes - the streetscape is somewhat sad, and the People Mover experience was kind of surreal.

That said, I've had some good times in Greektown, and really enjoyed the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn. I have yet to see the Art museum, the Motown museum and Science center, so they may be on the agenda if Denver makes it to the Big Dance. I also plan to eat some pierogis or paczki's in Hamtramck, the polish neighborhood. And if there is time, maybe hit the new waterfront.

 

[Slasher7]

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Only problem I have ever had at Detroit is when I was coming back from Windsor back in the day, got off the Highway to find a bathroom and couldn't figure out how to get back on! Also couldn't find a bathroom!

Wasn't this the premise for the movie "Judgment Night"? (Although I think that movie was supposed to be in Chicago.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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I hear South Central L.A. has a really good Mexican restaurant. Maybe the NCAA should put the Frozen Four there someday...

Great idea!!! With the muggings that would take place by the Saturday title game, you'll have Crips and Bloods filling up half the place. Maybe each gang could sponsor a team and one wears blue and the others wear red.

And don't forget about the booming business of kidnapping people to steal their organs to sell on the black market down there. Quite lucrative. If you wake up in a tub of ice without your kidneys, it'll really be a "frozen four"!

 

[Slasher7]

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Great idea!!! With the muggings that would take place by the Saturday title game, you'll have Crips and Bloods filling up half the place.

And don't forget about the booming business of kidnapping people to steal their organs to sell on the black market down there. Quite lucrative. If you wake up in a tub of ice without your kidneys, it'll really be a "frozen four"!

Just as long as the NCAA gives us enough notice so I can master my "Crip Walk".

 

[Rover]

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I work downtown ....:

You must be pretty lonely during the day. No wonder you've never had a problem. You're the only one there.