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Elections 2012: Congressional and Gubernatorial

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FlagDUDE08 said:
The stimulus was never a good idea. We're in the same predicament as we were in the 70's. Stagflation.
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IF the $timulu$ had gone 100% to public works projects to improve the country's infrastructure, then I don't think anyone would have had a problem with it. However, when it bailed out states and municipalities by funding jobs for a year or two, that just put a band-aid over a hemmorage.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Please explain to me how I wish to give Mitt Romney more money, and how I believe that that will make things fine. These are not rhetorical requests. I expect answers.
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You believe in trickle down, do you not? That will give Mitt Romney more money, will it not? I rest my case.
 
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joecct said:
IF the $timulu$ had gone 100% to public works projects to improve the country's infrastructure, then I don't think anyone would have had a problem with it. However, when it bailed out states and municipalities by funding jobs for a year or two, that just put a band-aid over a hemmorage.
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The States dependence on the Feds is a large part of the problem. I agree along those lines.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
The States dependence on the Feds is a large part of the problem. I agree along those lines.
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But here's the kicker. El Presidente wants to do it all over again! Doesn't he learn, or is he stuck with the theory and ignores the evidence?
 
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joecct said:
But here's the kicker. El Presidente wants to do it all over again! Doesn't he learn, or is he stuck with the theory and ignores the evidence?
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I don't disagree. If the other party would come out with a small government platform I could believe in I'd be switching in a heartbeat. Unfortunately all they believe in is trickle down. That and their social policies are sick.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
The stimulus was never a good idea. We're in the same predicament as we were in the 70's. Stagflation.
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??? - Stagflation has high inflation as a component. Where do you see high inflation either now or on the horizon? Even higher energy prices haven't led to high inflation.

Stimulus was a necessary idea. See Britain as an example of what not to do. Regarding the point about using it for municipalities to keep jobs, I would argue that nobody saw the slowdown lasting this long, so when the program was designed a one or two year infusion to float these places along until tax receipts picked up was a proper concept. Furthermore its not so much the private sector that's been the problem but the massive job cuts in the public sector weighing on the unemployment rate. That's not to say the program was ideally designed but few programs are.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
The stimulus was never a good idea. We're in the same predicament as we were in the 70's. Stagflation.
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Except in the 70s we didn't have the deficit albatross around our neck. So it's worse.
 
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Rover said:
Regarding the point about using it for municipalities to keep jobs, I would argue that nobody saw the slowdown lasting this long, so when the program was designed a one or two year infusion to float these places along until tax receipts picked up was a proper concept.
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"They thought they were doing the right thing at the time, so we should never apply hindsight and try to learn from history. After all, their hearts were in the right place."
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
You believe in trickle down, do you not? That will give Mitt Romney more money, will it not? I rest my case.
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What is your definition and expected result of trickle down? I am actually unfamiliar with what you mean by this, and I'm not trying to be difficult about that, either.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Yeah, we get it, you're the resident "trickle down" guy who thinks if we only give Mitt Romney more money everything will be fine.
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It doesn't matter what Washington does, Mitt and his fellow 1%ers are going to make more money, get over it
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
What is your definition and expected result of trickle down? I am actually unfamiliar with what you mean by this, and I'm not trying to be difficult about that, either.
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You don't know what supply side economics is? Please.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
You don't know what supply side economics is? Please.
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I know what supply side economics is, certainly. However, what are you trying to ascertain from that? If it has to do with labour, remember those wanting jobs are the suppliers, not the companies that hire.
 
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walrus said:
It doesn't matter what Washington does, Mitt and his fellow 1%ers are going to make more money, get over it
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Yes, it does matter. It's mattered for most of the last 30 years. You can point directly to Federal Government policy being the cause of everything that ails us right now as a nation.
 
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ericredaxe said:
He should resign. Local politics will never get the same national media attention as something at the more national level.
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He's a state rep. To complain about him not getting the same as Akin is ridiculous. Weiner got the same as Akin.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
Just a little pop culture trivia. Teenage girls go onto those talk shows boasting about how they've had intercourse and are going to get pregnant. Granted some of them look like an act, but that's entertainment for you.
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I've heard of Maury. What I didn't hear was relevance or sanity coming from your post.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Yes, it does matter. It's mattered for most of the last 30 years. You can point directly to Federal Government policy being the cause of everything that ails us right now as a nation.
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Federal Gov't policy will continue to make them money.
 
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walrus said:
Federal Gov't policy will continue to make them money.
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Sure. Then they'll all have to move when the Country goes under. By then all their companies will be located somewhere overseas anyway.
 
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