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ECAC D1 Women's Hockey 2014-15 Season

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Final Week's Games:

Fri Feb 20
Princeton @ Brown
Clarkson @ Dartmouth
St. Lawrence @ Harvard
Cornell @ RPI
Colgate @ Union
Quinnipiac @ Yale TIE

Sat Feb 21
Quinnipiac @ Brown
St. Lawrence @ Dartmouth
Clarkson @ Harvard
Colgate @ RPI
Cornell @ Union
Princeton @ Yale

Final Standings
1)Harvard 37
2) Quinnipiac 33
3) Clarkson 32
4) Cornell 30
5) St. Lawrence 29
6) Princeton 27
7) Yale 23
8) Dartmouth 20
 
Re: ECAC D1 Women's Hockey 2014-15 Season

Final Week's Games:

Fri Feb 20
Princeton @ Brown
Clarkson @ Dartmouth TIE
St. Lawrence @ Harvard
Cornell @ RPI
Colgate @ Union
Quinnipiac @ Yale

Sat Feb 21
Quinnipiac @ Brown
St. Lawrence @ Dartmouth
Clarkson @ Harvard
Colgate @ RPI
Cornell @ Union
Princeton @ Yale

I am too lazy to figure the final standings other than
1) Hahvad
2) Quinny
3) CCT (Barely)
4) Cornell
 
Re: ECAC D1 Women's Hockey 2014-15 Season

Final Week's Games:

Fri Feb 20
Princeton @ Brown
Clarkson @ Dartmouth TIE
St. Lawrence @ Harvard
Cornell @ RPI
Colgate @ Union
Quinnipiac @ Yale

Sat Feb 21
Quinnipiac @ Brown
St. Lawrence @ Dartmouth
Clarkson @ Harvard
Colgate @ RPI
Cornell @ Union
Princeton @ Yale

I am too lazy to figure the final standings other than
1) Hahvad
2) Quinny
3) CCT (Barely)
4) Cornell

vicb complete final standings:

1) Harvard 37
2) Quinnipiac 34
3) Clarkson 31
4) Cornell 30
5) Princeton 29
6) St Lawrence 27
7) Dartmouth 23
8) Yale 20
 
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vicb complete final standings:

1) Harvard 37
2) Quinnipiac 34
3) Clarkson 31
4) Cornell 30
5) Princeton 29
6) St Lawrence 27
7) Dartmouth 23
8) Yale 20

Thanks. Oh Oh, this means a Clarkson - SLU matchup in the playoffs. I may have to rethink my picks ;) . I like your Clarkson - Prinny scenario better.
 
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Clarkson 1 Harvard 0 FINAL

WOW Clarkson is the now 2 time ECAC Regular Season Champion.

Quarter Finals

Dartmouth at Clarkson ( a repeat of Last Year)
Yale at Harvard (a repeat of last year)
Princeton at Quinnipiac
SLU at Cornell
 
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So how does the ECAC handle the tie in terms of the championship? I know that Clarkson is the top seed and hosts if it advances, but is Harvard co-champions for the regular season and also gets a trophy and can hang a banner? That is how other leagues do it (the tiebreaker only breaks the tie for seeding purposes), but I haven't seen either Harvard or the ECAC acknowledge a Harvard regular-season championship.
 
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The game summary on the ECAC website now refers to "sharing" the regular season title.
 
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Final standings:

34 Cl and H, with Cl holding the H2H tiebreaker

32 QU

30 StL and Co, with Co holding the H2H tiebreaker

27 Pr

My "offhand" predictions missed the #1 seed by a mile (well, I had them at #4) and also underestimated the degree of parity in the league by underestimating the ability of bottom-half teams to upset top-half teams in the final two weekends.

Too rosy predictions:

34 QU and H, with H holding the H2H tiebreaker

33 Cl and Co, with Co holding the H2H tiebreaker

30 StL

28 Pr
 
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May as well do some predicting for next weekend

Quarter Finals

Dartmouth at Clarkson- CCT 2-0
Yale at Harvard- Harvard 2-1
Princeton at Quinnipiac- Quinny 2-1
SLU at Cornell- SLU 2-1
 
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So how does the ECAC handle the tie in terms of the championship? I know that Clarkson is the top seed and hosts if it advances, but is Harvard co-champions for the regular season and also gets a trophy and can hang a banner? That is how other leagues do it (the tiebreaker only breaks the tie for seeding purposes), but I haven't seen either Harvard or the ECAC acknowledge a Harvard regular-season championship.

It doesn't feel like we are co-champions at all. Losing at home when you have a chance to clinch the regular season title with just two points makes it feel worse. The record books can say that we shared the title with Clarkson but let's face it, they came in and won the game and deserve to finish first. We didn't beat them this season so sharing is moral victory in my book.

Somewhat akin to the 29-29 tie in THE GAME in '68. We came back from 15 points down in the final three minutes to 'win' the game. That's how it felt to us and the Yale players have admitted years later that it really felt like they lost. Even though we shared the Ivy championship with them.
 
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Quarter Final Predictions

Dartmouth at Clarkson- CCT 2-0
Yale at Harvard- Harvard 2-0
Princeton at Quinnipiac- Princeton 2-1
SLU at Cornell- SLU 2-1
 
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It doesn't feel like we are co-champions at all. Losing at home when you have a chance to clinch the regular season title with just two points makes it feel worse. The record books can say that we shared the title with Clarkson but let's face it, they came in and won the game and deserve to finish first. We didn't beat them this season so sharing is moral victory in my book.

Somewhat akin to the 29-29 tie in THE GAME in '68. We came back from 15 points down in the final three minutes to 'win' the game. That's how it felt to us and the Yale players have admitted years later that it really felt like they lost. Even though we shared the Ivy championship with them.

At least the consequences on the ice are just a lower seeding in the ECAC tourney played at campus rinks. When the men's BB team tied for the Ivy League championship with Princeton a few years ago and then lost the playoff game, the consequences for them were that they got to sit around in their rooms filling out their March Madness prediction sheets while the Tigers were whisked off to a faraway city to participate in the tinsel and glamour of The Big Dance.
 
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The record books can say that we shared the title with Clarkson but let's face it, they came in and won the game and deserve to finish first. We didn't beat them this season so sharing is moral victory in my book.
Fortunately, the season is an Easter Egg hunt which includes many eggs to collect in your basket. Beanpot, ECAC regular season title, ECAC tourney, NCAAs, even the weekly polls....you want to accumulate as many as you can, and so far the team has been able to collect some. The different eggs become collectible at various times in the season, against different competition, and the seedings are based on different criteria, some objective, some subjective.

This weekend's results may not have too bad an effect on Pairwise because ties are disregarded, but do they raise subjective concerns that could loom large in the polls. Though holding two strong teams to a goal apiece is nothing shabby, scoring only one goal all weekend in your own rink is a real black eye, and one that casts a cloud looking forward to upcoming games because it bespeaks a lack of discipline and cohesion that I hadn't expected. Let's hope it's a short-lived phenomenon due to too much adrenalin in a big game. When players began diving to the ice after loose pucks and hawking for interceptions, they got out of position, ran into one another, and generally got away from their game plan. Having to insert a new player for a regular member of two of the three lines (not that the new players haven't already performed well this season in the #10 and #11 roles, but that they haven't gained the instinctive positioning sense that comes from practicing and playing with their new linemates), and juggling the defensive pairings to give more ice time to the top four D, can't have helped cohesiveness either.

So yes, Clarkson got (and deserved) the moral victory and the bragging rights this time, there will likely be a loud thump in this week's polls and there is cause for concern going forward. Fortunately, the jury is out on collecting future eggs for the basket until those games are actually played.
 
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The record books can say that we shared the title with Clarkson but let's face it, they came in and won the game and deserve to finish first. We didn't beat them this season so sharing is moral victory in my book.
Fortunately, the season is an Easter Egg hunt which includes many eggs to collect in your basket. Beanpot, ECAC regular season title, ECAC tourney, NCAAs, even the weekly polls....you want to accumulate as many as you can, and so far the team has been able to collect some. The different eggs become collectible at various times in the season, against different competition, and the seedings are based on different criteria, some objective, some subjective.

This weekend's results may not have too bad an effect on Pairwise because ties are disregarded, but do they raise subjective concerns that could loom large in the polls. Though holding two strong teams to a goal apiece is nothing shabby, scoring only one goal all weekend in your own rink is a real black eye, and one that casts a cloud looking forward to upcoming games because it bespeaks a lack of discipline and cohesion that I hadn't expected. Let's hope it's a short-lived phenomenon due to too much adrenalin in a big game. When players began diving to the ice after loose pucks and hawking for interceptions, they got out of position, ran into one another, and generally got away from their game plan. Having to insert a new player for a regular member of two of the three lines (not that the new players haven't already performed well this season in the #10 and #11 roles, but that they haven't gained the instinctive positioning sense that comes from practicing and playing with their new linemates), and juggling the defensive pairings to give more ice time to the top four D, can't have helped cohesiveness either.

So yes, Clarkson got (and deserved) the moral victory and the bragging rights this time, there will likely be a loud thump in this week's polls and there is cause for concern going forward. Fortunately, the jury is out on collecting future eggs for the basket until those games are actually played.

Speaking of eggs, the ECAC Championship is still up for grabs and as a Clarkson fan the women's team has followed in the not so great history of many of the great Clarkson men's team.
1) Last season the 1-0 loss in the Championship game to Cornell on home ice although they did grab the Golden Egg at season end :D
2) 2012-2013 Beating Harvard twice (3-1 both games) during the Regular Season then losing to them (4-2) in the ECAC Semifinals at Lynah
3) 2011-2012 Beating Quinny twice (3-0/3-2) during the Regular Season then losing to them 2-1 in the ECAC Quarterfinals on home ice
4) 2009-2010 This one really hurts. Blowing the Regular Season Championship to Cornell by going 1-2-2 in their last 5 games while Cornell goes 5-0-0 and losing home ice for the ECAC Championship. Beating SLU 2-1 in the quarterfinals, Beating Harvard 3-2 at Cheel in the semi-finals. At that time the semifinals were at the higher seeds home ice and then the winners played at the higher seed home ice. So instead of Cornell coming to Cheel, Clarkson heads to Lynah. Cornell jumps on top 3-0 but the Knights fight back and tie it at 3-3 only to lose it in OT 4-3. Clarkson gets sent to Minny to play the Gophers in the NC$$ quarter finals and give them a battle only to lose 3-2 in OT.

So I think even though Clarkson has grabbed the #1 seed, Harvard is the only team in the top 4 that Clarkson has beaten this year and they were IMHO lucky to tie Harvard earlier in the season at Cheel. I do not think of Clarkson as the favorite coming into this post season. I think just like last year they can get by Dartmouth in the quarterfinals. Assuming all 4 top seed make it thru (which is dicey this year), having to beat Cornell then Quinny or Harvard to me is gonna be a tall order even on home ice.
 
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vicb;6106742coming into this post season. Assuming all 4 top seed make it thru (which is dicey this year) said:
Just as beating Quinny and Clarkson at Cheel will be a very tall order for Harvard.

BTW, there is an extra factor riding on the outcome of the Clarkson/Dartmouth series for me: whether I'll have a chance to see the semis and finals personally in the comfort of Bright-Landry, or pay an extra $9.99 to watch those games on the internet feed from Cheel. You have no idea how overwhelmingly important that is to my hockey enjoyment(LOL)!
 
Just as beating Quinny and Clarkson at Cheel will be a very tall order for Harvard.

BTW, there is an extra factor riding on the outcome of the Clarkson/Dartmouth series for me: whether I'll have a chance to see the semis and finals personally in the comfort of Bright-Landry, or pay an extra $9.99 to watch those games on the internet feed from Cheel. You have no idea how overwhelmingly important that is to my hockey enjoyment(LOL)!

Clarkson started streaming their sports for free this year.
 
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Clarkson started streaming their sports for free this year.
I would expect that the semis/final will be an ECAC event and not under Clarkson's control (assuming the Golden Knights advance.)
 
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This weekend's results may not have too bad an effect on Pairwise because ties are disregarded . . .

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this but a tied game is not disregarded in the pairwise. It counts as half a win and half a loss, so if your winning percentage is above .500 it will bring it down. It also means that a game against a very weak opponent (and SLU being the opponent in question means that this is irrelevant in this particular case) wouldn't be discarded from your RPI calculation.
 
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So I think even though Clarkson has grabbed the #1 seed, Harvard is the only team in the top 4 that Clarkson has beaten this year and they were IMHO lucky to tie Harvard earlier in the season at Cheel. I do not think of Clarkson as the favorite coming into this post season. I think just like last year they can get by Dartmouth in the quarterfinals. Assuming all 4 top seed make it thru (which is dicey this year), having to beat Cornell then Quinny or Harvard to me is gonna be a tall order even on home ice.

The ECAC playoff picture is definitely interesting. I'd argue it's actually extremely likely that not all top 4 seeds make it beyond this weekend. As has been noted previously, the top 5 teams were all within only 4 points over the course of the entire season.

However, if you look at the final 10 games of conference play, the differences between the 8 playoff bound teams were even less evident, and how teams are playing late in the season is far more relevant to their prospects than their performance in October and November. The relative rankings/differences between playoff bound teams in that span were even more blurry. Over the final 10 games, a different 5 ECAC teams (including Princeton and Yale instead of Quinny and Cornell) were within 2 points of each other at the top, and 7 of the 8 teams were actually within 4 points of each other.

It would not surprise me at all to see every QF series go to 3 games. I'd say the Clarkson Dartmouth series is most likely of the 4 post-season match ups to be decided in favour of the top seed. Quinny's offence seems to have deserted them lately; they are probably the most likely of the top seeds to be eliminated. If so, will 2 losses to an unranked team possibly jeopardize their ability to still make the NCAA tournament, or is their ranking going to be high enough already to keep them safe??

It should go without saying that once you get past the QF round, anything can happen in a single game elimination. I don't think it would be at all far-fetched this year for an ECAC team outside of the national top 6 to earn the ECAC auto-bid and displace unlucky #7.

Last 10 ECAC Games
1. Clarkson 16 pts (8-2-0) 28 GF 10 GA Key wins: #2 Harvard, #5 SLU, #6 Princeton, #8 Dartmouth (OT) Losses: #3 Quinny, #7 Yale
T2. Princeton 15 pts (7-2-1) 29 GF 14 GA Key wins: #2 Harvard, #4 Cornell, #5 SLU Losses: #1 Clarkson, #7 Yale Tie: #8 Dartmouth
T2. Harvard 15 pts (7-2-1) 32 GF 7 GA Key wins:#3 Quinny (OT), #4 Cornell (2x) #7 Yale Losses: #1 Clarkson, #6 Princeton Tie: #5 SLU
T4.SLU 14 pts (6-2-2) 28 GF 19 GA Key wins:#3 Quinny, #7 Yale, #8 Dartmouth Losses:#1 Clarkson, #6 Princeton Ties: #2 Harvard, Union
T4.Yale 14 pts (7-3-0) 35 GF 23 GA Key wins:#1 Clarkson, #3 Quinny, #6 Princeton, #8 Dartmouth Losses:#2 Harvard, #5 SLU,(Brown (OT)
T6.Cornell 12 pts (6-4-0) 35 GF 22 GA Key wins:#3 Quinny (OT)Losses: #2 Harvard (2x) #6 Princeton,#8 Dartmouth
T6.QU 12 pts (6-4-0) 18 GF 14 GA Key wins: #1 Clarkson, #7 Yale, #8 DartmouthLosses: #2 Harvard (OT) #4 Cornell (OT), #5 SLU, #7 Yale
8. Dartmouth 7 pts (3-6-1) 23 GF 30 GA Key wins:* #4 Cornell Losses: #1 Clarkson (OT), #3 Quinny, #4 Cornell, #5 SLU, #7 Yale, (& Colgate) Tie: #6 Princeton (*Dartmouth also beat Harvard 11 games ago)
 
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ECAC HOCKEY POOL FINAL REGULAR SEASON STANDINGS

Week:
trillium 7/12 .583
vicb 4/12 .333

Total Season:
trillium 93/142 65.5%
mattj711 85/135 63.0%
vicb 95/157 60.5%
bhibukhu 82/136 60.3%

I WIN!!! :D
....and vicb earns the participation medal for best attendance
 
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