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Dump Term 2, Part 2: "A third term would be a big shattering."

Jimjamesak said:
JFC you guys are almost as bad as the righties with the “no one on the left could’ve done this” rhetoric.

Newsflash: There are plenty of people on the left with guns, well trained with those guns, and highly capable, if sufficiently motivated, of committing an act like this. Just because they don’t loudly shout to the world about their ability to shoot someone, doesn’t mean they won’t actually do it.

And you don’t think there aren’t leftists itching for a civil war as well? Again, just because they’re not shouting it out to the world doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
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I wont speak for him but my belief it might not be a Lefty in this case does not mean that I dont think there are Lefties that absolutely could and would do this and likely will in the future. We are at a point in this country where literally everyone could be capable of doing something horrific if even slightly pushed. Add in lack of services for mental health, social services in the toilet in general and guns everywhere and we are long overdue for a reckoning.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The average eastern hunter has definitely not hit a deer at 200 yards. Most are lucky to land a shot at 50 yards, especially if buck fever has kicked in.

Out west, where 200-yard shots at herds of elk and mule deer are the norm, is another story. But even then misses are common, especially by hunting tourists who don't commonly shoot at those distances.
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I know enough hunters to know that they absolutely would miss at 200 yards with only one shot to take. They certainly wouldn't get a kill shot unless they got absolutely lucky.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
It’s also worth noting that this isn’t a super difficult shot. Any person who has passed basic training has to hit like 60% of targets at 300 yards with iron sights.

Your average deer hunter has probably downed at least one deer from 200 yards.

There are tens of millions of people who possess the skills to make this shot. It’s not some professional sniper like so many are claiming.
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I think one can also add that, as I understand it, snipers don't shoot for the neck or head, they shoot for the torso. So IF it was a sniper shot, it was not where they would have aimed. It's more likely not to be a sniper.

Kind of reminds me of the hits to Kennedy- and how so many could not replicate it- because some of the shots were just luck how they hit and went through the bodies.
 
Jimjamesak said:
With a Mauser bolt action rifle? Definitely not a righty. Righties have to have their AR-15 models.
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It’s not entirely clear it’s a Mauser rifle. A Mauser-type action is basically the style of most deer hunting rifles.

Mauser and Mauser action are two obviously related but different things.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The average eastern hunter has definitely not hit a deer at 200 yards. Most are lucky to land a shot at 50 yards, especially if buck fever has kicked in.

Out west, where 200-yard shots at herds of elk and mule deer are the norm, is another story. But even then misses are common, especially by hunting tourists who don't commonly shoot at those distances.
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You strive to hit within 100 because the likelihood of a single shot kill is higher, but 200 is absolutely not out of reach of your standard deer hunter with a scoped rifle.
 
MichVandal said:
I think one can also add that, as I understand it, snipers don't shoot for the neck or head, they shoot for the torso. So IF it was a sniper shot, it was not where they would have aimed. It's more likely not to be a sniper.

Kind of reminds me of the hits to Kennedy- and how so many could not replicate it- because some of the shots were just luck how they hit and went through the bodies.
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Why are people assuming the neck was where he even aimed? It almost certainly wasn’t!
 
Handyman said:
Hey I hope it is a Lefty!
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But why? It’ll only beget more violence. For all we know, right now, someone is plotting to murder Democratic lawmakers at their homes in the wee hours of the morning as retaliation. Hell, Trump might start doing something crazy, like incarcerating and deporting American citizens, or deploy U.S. troops alongside ICE in Democratic-led cities to incite more violence as a response to the death of peaceful activist Charlie Kirk. He might even try to overturn the 2028 election when he runs for his 3rd term. Can you imagine how much safer we’d all be if Charlie Kirk hadn’t stuck his neck out for his beliefs?
 
Handyman said:
We are in an Authoritarian State now.
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But somehow you and others on here still feel comfortable posting? Wouldn't a TRUE authoritarian state not allow that? Or maybe a college hockey website hasn't shown up on their radar yet so you are safe, for the time being?
 
Jesse Waters can suck a bag of STD-laden dicks.

The man who targeted and killed Democratic state Rep Melissa Hortman was a Trump supporter.

The man who targeted the home of Dem Governor Josh Shapiro was a Trump supporter.

The men who wanted to hang Mike Pence on Jan 6th were Trump supporters.

The man who targeted and killed the son of Obama-appointed District Judge Esther Salas was a Trump supporter.

The man who tried to kidnap Nancy Pelosi and assaulted her husband was a Trump supporter.

The men who were convicted trying to kidnap Dem Governor Gretchen Whitmer were Trump supporters.

The man who sent pipe bombs to the homes of Obama and Biden was a Trump supporter.

The failed Republican political candidate sentenced to 80 years for orchestrating drive-by shooting against Democrats was a Trump supporter.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
You strive to hit within 100 because the likelihood of a single shot kill is higher, but 200 is absolutely not out of reach of your standard deer hunter with a scoped rifle.
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Used to hear old stories from a relatives father who owned a big grizzly hunting lodge in Alaska. If you wanted to shoot with a bow, you got one fucking test shot to show perfection- if not, rifle only allowed

Of course, people so often miss with rifle that you need1-2 people as backup with rifles locked and loaded to help take it down
 
psych said:
But why? It’ll only beget more violence. For all we know, right now, someone is plotting to murder Democratic lawmakers at their homes in the wee hours of the morning as retaliation. Hell, Trump might start doing something crazy, like incarcerating and deporting American citizens, or deploy U.S. troops alongside ICE in Democratic-led cities to incite more violence as a response to the death of peaceful activist Charlie Kirk. He might even try to overturn the 2028 election when he runs for his 3rd term. Can you imagine how much safer we’d all be if Charlie Kirk hadn’t stuck his neck out for his beliefs?
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Yeah, I hope he was being facetious there.

Political violence is fucking ugly stuff and none of us should want that in any capacity.
 
psych said:
But why? It’ll only beget more violence. For all we know, right now, someone is plotting to murder Democratic lawmakers at their homes in the wee hours of the morning as retaliation. Hell, Trump might start doing something crazy, like incarcerating and deporting American citizens, or deploy U.S. troops alongside ICE in Democratic-led cities to incite more violence as a response to the death of peaceful activist Charlie Kirk. He might even try to overturn the 2028 election when he runs for his 3rd term. Can you imagine how much safer we’d all be if Charlie Kirk hadn’t stuck his neck out for his beliefs?
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That is a great Chuck Schumer impression :)
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Yeah, I hope he was being facetious there.

Political violence is fucking ugly stuff and none of us should want that in any capacity.
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Im not.

You are the people Jim is talking about. We are beyond the point where we can talk this out...they are already committing horrific acts. Everything psych listed (which Im guessing is tongue in cheek) has already happened. They arent going to be stopped by us unless they fear our retribution.

This country was founded on political violence...most Democracies are. If we arent willing to match their ability to go all in we lost. You dont stop authoritarians with platitudes you stop them with revolution.

You don't have a peaceful revolution. You don't have a turn-the-other-cheek revolution. There's no such thing as a nonviolent revolution.
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-Malcolm X
 
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