Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Brandon Lyon to the Astros

For that deal, let him go.

What an unbelievably DUMB contract. Drayton McClaine can never cry about bad contracts anymore after that.

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

That's the great absurdity. The Astros don't want to spend money on good players, but they'll give a guy who is below average a 3/15 deal...a middle reliever!

 

[Billy Blanks]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

You're on, as long as I get to choose the brand.

I don't doubt that the pitching may carry them, even with an unknown potential arm versus a proven commodity like Jackson. But this team got carried by starting pitching this past season with a semi- competent, all or nothing lineup, and they still only managed to win... 85 games?

You are acting like we traded away superstars. C'mon man, we didn't get a bunch of no name prospects back in this deal. Austin Jackson is the only guy that doesn't really have any MLB experience but he was the Yankees #1 prospect!

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

You are acting like we traded away superstars. C'mon man, we didn't get a bunch of no name prospects back in this deal. Austin Jackson is the only guy that doesn't really have any MLB experience but he was the Yankees #1 prospect!

You got Austin Jackson, not Jesus Montero.

 

[streaker]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

You are acting like we traded away superstars. C'mon man, we didn't get a bunch of no name prospects back in this deal. Austin Jackson is the only guy that doesn't really have any MLB experience but he was the Yankees #1 prospect!

C'mon Billy, with your track record of predictions, I should include you in that bet with Hammer, just so that I can get a real good drunk on.

Am I really out on a broken limb stating the Tigers will stink, like 69-93 bad?

That's a very realistic record, dropping 16 games more than last season, just like the Injuns did when they sold off their proven players.

Lyon is gone, so Perry will be in line for set up or, if gascan goes, he'll be the closer. Sweet!

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

You got Austin Jackson, not Jesus Montero.

I stand corrected. The top non-catcher in the Yankees organization...

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

C'mon Billy, with your track record of predictions, I should include you in that bet with Hammer, just so that I can get a real good drunk on.

Am I really out on a broken limb stating the Tigers will stink, like 69-93 bad?

That's a very realistic record, dropping 16 games more than last season, just like the Injuns did when they sold off their proven players.

Lyon is gone, so Perry will be in line for set up or, if gascan goes, he'll be the closer. Sweet!

I'll take the bet. I am always going to be back in Metro Detroit around October for business. You can pay up then.

JJ Putz was working out yesterday here in Scottsdale and the Tigers had a scout there...

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Now the Tigers have serious interest in Scott Podsednick and Jermaine Dye.

Groan...

 

[Hammer]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

I've heard about them being interested in Podsednik for a few days. They're going to need a Plan B in CF if one of the two kids (Wells or Jackson) aren't ready in early April.

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

I am also hearing that we have SERIOUS interest in Juan Pierre. He did okay last year in LA.

They want a pitcher, but none of the ones that the Tigers have offered. Dombrowski is trying to now trade Guillen to a team for a pitcher and then trade the pitcher to LA for Pierre.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

The only problem with that is, Pierre is owed more than Guillen over the next couple years.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Juan Pierre is awful. You want no part of him.

 

[3W]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Now the Tigers have serious interest in Scott Podsednick and Jermaine Dye.

Groan...

That might be an addition by subtraction ... from other teams. I'm perfectly OK with them signing Dye and letting him play cards in the clubhouse for six months just so we don't have to pitch to the guy.

 

[Hammer]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

They're showing a film about the 1984 Padres on MLB Network now. They're about to get to the part where the Tigers curbstomped them in the Series.

 

[Billy Blanks]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

I did not see the press conference, but did anybody ask and/or did DD surrender the information about whether or not the Tigers intend to try Coke out as a starter?

I believe --- Especially with the acquisition of Schlereth, the signing of Thomas, and the fact that Ni is still here --- That with the preponderance of lefty relievers and the dearth of lefty starters (Robertson and.........), as well as lingering rotation issues, that the Tigers should at least try it. If it doesn't work out, he can return to the bullpen. Not only that, but if he makes it even as a back-of-the-rotation starter then this trade got quite a bit better.

Did DD say anything about it, or is it pretty much cut and dried that he WILL be in the bullpen?

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Brandon Lyon to the Astros

For that deal, let him go.

Exactly. Now we have our first sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd round.

Now, if only Rodney would hurry up and figure out what he's doing we can go hard after Putz.

 

[streaker]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Exactly. Now we have our first sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd round.

Now, if only Rodney would hurry up and figure out what he's doing we can go hard after Putz.

Dombrowski is already quoted as saying that it will be difficult to sign Rodney. Sounds to me that he is leaning towards Perry being the closer and trying to find middle relief.

 

[Billy Blanks]

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Yeah, that is what is sounds like now. Putz signed with the White Sox this afternoon...

Grrrrrr

 

[Hammer]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Rodney to the Angels

2 years, $11 mil total.

At $5.5 per, I would have liked to have seen him stay here.

 

[speekeasy8]

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Re: Detroit Tigers, 2009, Part III: How long does it take for Leyland to screw this up?

Rodney to the Angels

2 years, $11 mil total.

At $5.5 per, I would have liked to have seen him stay here.

$5.5 per, plus a prospect drafted in the 42nd to 55th overall range.

With 5 picks in the top 55 overall, the table is set for a big draft by Detroit... let's hope they do not "Millen" it.

#19 - 1st round pick
#27 - from Philadelphia, compensation for Polanco
#33-41 range - compensation for Polanco
#42-55 range - compensation for Lyon
#42-55 range - compensation for Rodney

http://www.mymlbdraft.com/mlb-free-agents-type-a-and-type-b/

The "range" picks assume all type A/B free agents sign with a new team before the 2010 MLB draft. Of course, if some of them resign with their 2009 team, or if they do not sign at all, Detroit's sandwich picks will become even better.