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Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

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ticapnews said:
I don't get Mayor Pete's strategy. He doesn't want a Sanders vs Bloomberg race so naturally he attacks...Klobuchar?
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What Rover said. If Klobuchar doesn't win most of the late deciders in NH following the last debate, Pete very likely would've edged out Sanders. If he could land a killing blow, a lot of her voters probably go to him.

And don't discount that it's gotten personal for her, and likely has for him as well. There is genuine disdain there.
 
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I think he had that Mondale line ready which was hilarious
 
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Rover said:
Unless you're a simpleton you surely realize there's other factors involved right? But the question is, before you tried to move the goalposts, is do you still stand by this earlier statement of yours: "A dozen years ago or so the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House, but I don't recall any great wealth tax imposed or other dramatic step to change the inequality"
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I do
 
Rover said:
She's in his lane. No Klobuchar and he maybe wins NH. Warren already took care of Bloomberg in the debate so go after the next target. Whether that's Klobuchar or Biden for him I'm not sure but he needs to get some of the moderates out of the race.
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If he doesn't want Bloomberg to buy the nomination it makes more sense to either join the dogpile or try to hurt Sanders. Going after Amy wasn't a good look for him, and even drew the attention of Liz the Lioness, which is astonishing considering she was still feasting on the remains of Bloomberg.
 
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unofan said:
What Rover said. If Klobuchar doesn't win most of the late deciders in NH following the last debate, Pete very likely would've edged out Sanders. If he could land a killing blow, a lot of her voters probably go to him.

And don't discount that it's gotten personal for her, and likely has for him as well. There is genuine disdain there.
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Elena thinks she's entitled to the moderate vote because she's played the game longer than Pedro. Those rules went out the window 12 years ago, and Hillary never learned. Seems Elena didn't either.
 
Rover said:
She's in his lane. No Klobuchar and he maybe wins NH. Warren already took care of Bloomberg in the debate so go after the next target. Whether that's Klobuchar or Biden for him I'm not sure but he needs to get some of the moderates out of the race.
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Also, his target is wrong. The latest polls show him at just about viable in Nevada, far behind Sanders but very close to Biden. Joe has been dropping like a rock and may not make it to the magic 15%. If Buttigieg can pick off those voters he not only gets himself over the threshold, but he knocks out Biden. Biden is also in his lane, and much more vulnerable than Klobuchar. She's hovering around <10% and may not even make it. Joe is the one he should go after.

unofan said:
And don't discount that it's gotten personal for her, and likely has for him as well. There is genuine disdain there.
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There are better and smarter ways to go after her. You have to be able to read the room, and going after Amy last night was not a good idea. If he's acting out of personal dislike for her then he's already lost.

His target should have been Biden. Hell, the lioness might have helped go after the wounded animal instead of seeing Buttigieg as her next meal.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
Elena thinks she's entitled to the moderate vote because she's played the game longer than Pedro. Those rules went out the window 12 years ago, and Hillary never learned. Seems Elena didn't either.
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My personal issue with Klobuchar is that she reminds me too much of my last boss, and that's not a good thing (there's a reason I took about an 8% pay cut to get away and have had no regrets). The sense of entitlement is one aspect, the stories about her treatment of her staff got to me though. Even if it was a planted hatchet job, it struck true to me and I'm guessing many people who've had bosses that act similarly. The animus she aimed at Pete the last couple of debates kinda solidifies that.

Probably not the best reason to not consider a candidate, but there it is.
 
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I have a couple close friends that have worked for her. They love her and had no issues, but did admit that she can be real tough.

My impression is that she doesn't suffer fools in her employ, and will at times make an example of someone. Everyone likes a Dr. Cox in a television show, not so much in reality.
 
state of hockey said:
I have a couple close friends that have worked for her. They love her and had no issues, but did admit that she can be real tough.

My impression is that she doesn't suffer fools in her employ, and will at times make an example of someone. Everyone likes a Dr. Cox in a television show, not so much in reality.
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One of my oldest friends was her COS. He says basically the same thing
 
unofan said:
My personal issue with Klobuchar is that she reminds me too much of my last boss, and that's not a good thing (there's a reason I took about an 8% pay cut to get away and have had no regrets). The sense of entitlement is one aspect, the stories about her treatment of her staff got to me though. Even if it was a planted hatchet job, it struck true to me and I'm guessing many people who've had bosses that act similarly. The animus she aimed at Pete the last couple of debates kinda solidifies that.

Probably not the best reason to not consider a candidate, but there it is.
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Yep, if you don't get what she's after immediately, she's the kind of teacher/supervisor who belittles you. It's a bad look, especially to anyone under 40.
 
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state of hockey said:
I have a couple close friends that have worked for her. They love her and had no issues, but did admit that she can be real tough.

My impression is that she doesn't suffer fools in her employ, and will at times make an example of someone. Everyone likes a Dr. Cox in a television show, not so much in reality.
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There's a difference between not suffering fools in her employ and winging binders at them. If Sanders or Biden had done this how many "Crazy Old Man" stories would we have seen already in the press? I'm guessing about maybe 10,000 at this point complete with photos of the binders with scuff marks and/or bloodstains on them!
 
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I dgaf if she threw binders at someone on the 5% chance she gets the nod. Trump grabbed pus$ies and whole lot more, and I like that she actually has the balls to take him snipe for snipe. So if I have to choose to live with my angry aunt or my racist and misogynist grandfather with a whip....
 
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Slap Shot said:
I dgaf if she threw binders at someone on the 5% chance she gets the nod. Trump grabbed pus$ies and whole lot more, and I like that she actually has the balls to take him snipe for snipe. So if I have to choose to live with my angry aunt or my racist and misogynist grandfather with a whip....
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Hey if she's the nominee I'm on board too, but we can't rightfully call out Bloomberg for how he treats his staff but give Klobacher a free pass. To my knowledge Lizzy Warren has never clobbered anyone with office supplies, so she has my vote in the primaries...
 
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Kepler said:
Per Dr. Mrs. It wasn't. Amy's Beltway rep is she is great to work with and terrible to work for.
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She strikes me as that, just listening to her speak.
 
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Slap Shot said:
I dgaf if she threw binders at someone on the 5% chance she gets the nod. Trump grabbed pus$ies and whole lot more, and I like that she actually has the balls to take him snipe for snipe. So if I have to choose to live with my angry aunt or my racist and misogynist grandfather with a whip....
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Here's the thing:

1. We don't have to work with her.

2. If you work on a White House staff you're an as-shole and deserve everything you get anyway.

Therefore it's a non-factor for me. Pretty much every President has been an SOB to The Help. It comes with the unbridled narcissism of reaching for the office. About the only one who wasn't a complete d-ck, and this includes Barack, is Dubya, and Dubya was a moron, a coward, and a total failure, so that's hardly a recommendation. Even Jimmy Carter was a hardas-s to his staff and Jimmy Carter is a living Saint.
 
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