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Democratic Challengers 10: If we stop fighting Nazis, the world will die.

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SJHovey said:
Warren, who won't be elected President, paid for a full page ad in Adelson's newspaper about a plan that will not be implemented even if she became President. No wonder Adelson keeps adding to his wealth.
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Got the lottery numbers too? I need to go buy a ticket.
 
SJHovey said:
Warren, who won't be elected President, paid for a full page ad in Adelson's newspaper about a plan that will not be implemented even if she became President. No wonder Adelson keeps adding to his wealth.
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Your attitude is why we can't have nice things.

"America. We can't do anything anymore".
 
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rufus said:
Your attitude is why we can't have nice things.

"America. We can't do anything anymore".
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My attitude?

I think wealth inequality is pretty significant in the country, but I'm not naive to think that Warren or anyone else is going to realistically change that. The problem is that the people voting on it are all well into the 1%, which is why it didn't happen under Obama or Clinton or anyone else.

My post was intended as a response to the tweet that suggested chutzpah or some great move by Warren buying the ad in Adelson's paper. My guess is Adelson would be more than happy to sell her that ad once a day until November. I just get a kick out of those on the left who think such empty gestures are these great moves.
 
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Obama and Clinton never really tried to implement one, at least nothing like what is being proposed currently. As far as this move by Warren I think it's kinda funny but ultimately it isn't super meaningful.
 
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SJHovey said:
My attitude?

I think wealth inequality is pretty significant in the country, but I'm not naive to think that Warren or anyone else is going to realistically change that. The problem is that the people voting on it are all well into the 1%, which is why it didn't happen under Obama or Clinton or anyone else.
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So Democrats have not been trying to change the tax brackets including placing more burden on the 1% and less on the middle class?
 
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huskyfan said:
Liz nailed why I can't support Bloomberg : “I’d like to talk about who we’re running against — a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians,” Warren said.
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But you'll vote for the Loonitarian nominee, a party whose standard voter base consists approximately 50% of incels who write "manosphere" blogs. ;) :p
 
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Slap Shot said:
So Democrats have not been trying to change the tax brackets including placing more burden on the 1% and less on the middle class?
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I don't think in any sort of meaningful way it's happened while they've been in power. I suspect during Obama's years the inequality growth slowed, but primarily due to the tanking of the stock market and real estate market.

A dozen years ago or so the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House, but I don't recall any great wealth tax imposed or other dramatic step to change the inequality. They had their chance. Granted they didn't do what Trump and the Republicans did when afforded the same measure of control here a couple of years ago, and pass tax cuts to make it worse.

But again, when you have Feinstein money or Pelosi money, are you really that interested in just handing over half of it?
 
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If politicians want to take on the ultra wealthy, they better look at how the early 1900's played out politically. I'm pretty sure the Jeff Bezos types are aware of how Teddy Roosevelt took down their late 1800 equivalents. No way that is allowed to happen today.
 
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SJHovey said:
A dozen years ago or so the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House, but I don't recall any great wealth tax imposed or other dramatic step to change the inequality. They had their chance. Granted they didn't do what Trump and the Republicans did when afforded the same measure of control here a couple of years ago, and pass tax cuts to make it worse.
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Without looking at who controlled what, the top rate was raised from 31% to 39.6% in 1993, lowered to 35% in 2003, increased to 39.6% in 2013, and finally lowered to 37% in 2018. I can only guess who lowered it from 50% to 38.5% and again to 28% in 1987 and 88 respectively.
 
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SJHovey said:
A dozen years ago or so the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House, but I don't recall any great wealth tax imposed or other dramatic step to change the inequality.
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Apparently you weren't paying attention.

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/medicare-tax-3193121

In the 2 years where the Dems controlled both houses of Congress, they implemented a large wealth transfer which was the ACA, paid for by wealthy taxpayers as well as the medical industry. Should they have implemented an additional wealth tax on top of that? Not sure the politics of the time made that possible unlike today where its much more feasible.
 
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Also there was that little thing of pulling the country out of the largest downturn in 80 years, so that probably took some time and focus away from other plans.
 
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Rover said:
Apparently you weren't paying attention.

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/medicare-tax-3193121

In the 2 years where the Dems controlled both houses of Congress, they implemented a large wealth transfer which was the ACA, paid for by wealthy taxpayers as well as the medical industry. Should they have implemented an additional wealth tax on top of that? Not sure the politics of the time made that possible unlike today where its much more feasible.
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Well if that was the plan with the ACA (adopted in 2010, iirc), it didn't work (at least according to this graph).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealt...tes#/media/File:US_Wealth_Inequality_-_v2.png
 
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Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can tweet what you want now. Just you wait until Novembef. <a href="https://t.co/mIRtvwE1ym">https://t.co/mIRtvwE1ym</a></p>— Mike Bloomberg (@MikeBloomberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeBloomberg/status/1230512719536807937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
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SJHovey said:
Well if that was the plan with the ACA (adopted in 2010, iirc), it didn't work (at least according to this graph).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealt...tes#/media/File:US_Wealth_Inequality_-_v2.png
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Unless you're a simpleton you surely realize there's other factors involved right? But the question is, before you tried to move the goalposts, is do you still stand by this earlier statement of yours: "A dozen years ago or so the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House, but I don't recall any great wealth tax imposed or other dramatic step to change the inequality"
 
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Didn't watch the debate, but what I'm gathering from the recaps:
Bloomberg sucked
Sanders escaped relatively unscathed
Biden was a non factor
Warren burned everyone
Buttigeig and Klobuchar had a brouhaha, with Buttigeig winning on the scorecards.
 
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I don't get Mayor Pete's strategy. He doesn't want a Sanders vs Bloomberg race so naturally he attacks...Klobuchar?
 
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ticapnews said:
I don't get Mayor Pete's strategy. He doesn't want a Sanders vs Bloomberg race so naturally he attacks...Klobuchar?
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She's in his lane. No Klobuchar and he maybe wins NH. Warren already took care of Bloomberg in the debate so go after the next target. Whether that's Klobuchar or Biden for him I'm not sure but he needs to get some of the moderates out of the race.
 
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