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Death to the Incumbent!! Your guide to the 2010 primaries

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Old Pio said:
As much as I believe Blumenthal is a lying sack of wet brownies, it is ironic that the NYT is on his case on this matter, given their traditional position of crapping on the military every chance they get.
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Doesn't surprise me because just about all reporters are lazy and stupid. This story fits perfectly. They want to get their names on the front page, but don't actually want to do any real legwork to break a big story. So, what you do? Have somebody with an agenda do the research and basically print their view verbatim. That's what happened here as they went with the story the McMahon campaign supplied without a lot of backchecking apparently. Now nothing wrong with the McMahon campaign doing this. They're out to win. Tighter reporting however and Blumenthal might not be a candidate anymore. Aside from The Economist and NPR I really don't trust any media outlets to go the extra mile and try to get a juicy story right before they print it.
 
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Rover said:
Aside from The Economist and NPR I really don't trust any media outlets to go the extra mile and try to get a juicy story right before they print it.
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You forgot the National Enquirer. If they print it, it must be true.
 
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Rover said:
Doesn't surprise me because just about all reporters are lazy and stupid. This story fits perfectly. They want to get their names on the front page, but don't actually want to do any real legwork to break a big story. So, what you do? Have somebody with an agenda do the research and basically print their view verbatim. That's what happened here as they went with the story the McMahon campaign supplied without a lot of backchecking apparently. Now nothing wrong with the McMahon campaign doing this. They're out to win. Tighter reporting however and Blumenthal might not be a candidate anymore. Aside from The Economist and NPR I really don't trust any media outlets to go the extra mile and try to get a juicy story right before they print it.
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When Willie Smith was on trial for rape down in Florida the proceedings were televised and the complaining witness had her face covered electronically with a big blue dot. The idea is to protect an alleged rape victim's identity. The Times didn't report her identity, they reported that the National Enquirer had reported her identity, thus outing her themselves while maintaining their high "ethical" standards. Nice.
 
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New Jersey Tea Partiers might be taking anti-incumbent anger to the next level, looking to recall Senator Bob Menendez. Now the New Jersey Constitution says
The people reserve unto themselves the power to recall, after at least one year of service, any elected official in this State or representing this State in the United States Congress.
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But does that clash with the US Constitution?

Now even if they are allowed to begin to start collecting signatures, it'll be difficult to find the 1.3 million needed I'd imagine, still interesting though.
 
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WeWantMore said:
A Republican will represent Hawaii in Congress for the first time since 1991
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/bulletin/94673904.html
Won about 40% of the vote, with 2 Democrats splitting the rest
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Is this a new low for campaign incompetence? How can you fumble away a seat in a district that voted 59%-40% for Democrats?

I'm sure they'll get their act together before November, so it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's still pretty embarrassing.
 
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LynahFan said:
Is this a new low for campaign incompetence? How can you fumble away a seat in a district that voted 59%-40% for Democrats?

I'm sure they'll get their act together before November, so it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's still pretty embarrassing.
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When you read the article the votes for Democrats is clearly in the majority so unless Djou starts turning rocks into gold he's not winning in November. Still, an interesting result to be seen here... Democratic party infighting cost the Dems them here.
 
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Patman said:
When you read the article the votes for Democrats is clearly in the majority so unless Djou starts turning rocks into gold he's not winning in November. Still, an interesting result to be seen here... Democratic party infighting cost the Dems them here.
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Yup, still a likely Dem win in November, still as the article mentions, Hawaii has a history of electing incumbents, and the two Dems seem to legitimately dislike each other, so maybe a ton of Dems stay home if their candidate loses in the primary...
 
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WeWantMore said:
Yup, still a likely Dem win in November, still as the article mentions, Hawaii has a history of electing incumbents, and the two Dems seem to legitimately dislike each other, so maybe a ton of Dems stay home if their candidate loses in the primary...
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When do the idiotic claims of a Democrat Civil War start? I mean, we had to listen to all of that crap after the Democrat won in upstate New York last year about a Republican Civil War.

What Americans really want to know, though, is how Djou would have voted on the Civil Rights Act in 1964. These are important questions.
 
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huskyfan said:
they did get the John Edwards story right ...
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One story in three generations. Something to hang their hats on!

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Priceless said:
One story in three generations. Something to hang their hats on!

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Oj's shoes, Rush Limbaugh's drug addiction, Bristol Palin pregnancy (nipped in the bud by the Palin's going public with it first), the first details of Clinton-Lewinsky just to name a few.
 
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LynahFan said:
Is this a new low for campaign incompetence? How can you fumble away a seat in a district that voted 59%-40% for Democrats?

I'm sure they'll get their act together before November, so it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but it's still pretty embarrassing.
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Strategic. It's now incumbent GOP. DTTI.
 
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Great description by the CTGOP, which called it an "electronic mumble." Sounds about right.
 
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Having said all that, it looks like his chances of surviving this are improving. Why that is I couldn't tell you, but I'll theorize that I think voters, especially those under the age of 50, are just sick of hearing the "what were you doing during Vietnam" questions. Doesn't minimize what he did, but at some point the public starts tuning it out. I personally am a bit surprised he's still around, although he may have also benefited somewhat by making how the story broke the issue.
 
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Rover said:
Having said all that, it looks like his chances of surviving this are improving. Why that is I couldn't tell you, but I'll theorize that I think voters, especially those under the age of 50, are just sick of hearing the "what were you doing during Vietnam" questions. Doesn't minimize what he did, but at some point the public starts tuning it out. I personally am a bit surprised he's still around, although he may have also benefited somewhat by making how the story broke the issue.
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I suspect you're right. Five decades of Dodds convinces me.
 
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Watching the NJ Supreme Court hearing today on whether they can recall Senator Menendez. Court doesn't appear to be too receptive to their argument.
 
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