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RIP Jonathan Winters. :(
He was my favorite Scooby Doo guest star as a kid. I don't know why, and I can barely remember the episode these days, but I remember liking his bit the most and I didn't even have a clue as to who he was.
 
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I am just losing all of the best from my youth. He was an incredible talent who could do more with one small prop and ad lib an entire routine. RIP one of the funniest inventive comedians ever. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/12/entertainment-us-jonathanwinters-idUSBRE93B0V220130412

Two little Winters moments popped into my head when I heard he was gone:

Maude Frickert is describing the Martians she's seen. When asked how tall they were, she says: "Well, one of 'em had to reach up and milk my cow like this."

In a send up of 30's prison flicks, with Pat O'Brian as the kindly priest, Father Duffy, he tells the warden that "Tiger's not a bad boy." The warden responds: "He isn't? He just killed three of my guards. I'd call that a bit ornery, wouldn't you?"
 
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Two little Winters moments popped into my head when I heard he was gone:

Maude Frickert is describing the Martians she's seen. When asked how tall they were, she says: "Well, one of 'em had to reach up and milk my cow like this."

In a send up of 30's prison flicks, with Pat O'Brian as the kindly priest, Father Duffy, he tells the warden that "Tiger's not a bad boy." The warden responds: "He isn't? He just killed three of my guards. I'd call that a bit ornery, wouldn't you?"

I remember once on the Tonight Show they handed him a scarf as a prop and he ad lipped about 10-15 minutes of stuff using it. He had Carson rolling on the floor and the audience laughing so hard they were holding their sides. There have been lots of comedians who have emulated his style but he was a master.:(
 
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I remember once on the Tonight Show they handed him a scarf as a prop and he ad lipped about 10-15 minutes of stuff using it. He had Carson rolling on the floor and the audience laughing so hard they were holding their sides. There have been lots of comedians who have emulated his style but he was a master.:(

Somewhere, Mork is crying. :(

I think Carson lost it just about every time Winters was on the show. Sorry, but today's comedians can't hold a candle to Winters, Tim Conway, Dom DeLuise and many others of our generation.

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So...who's the better heavyweight: Ali or Marciano?

When you think Rocky Marciano, think Joe Frazier. Rock was a guy who'd dig and dig and dig until he had a chance to unload a left hook. He'd take punishment to get that shot. Frazier was much the same way. And it was a Frazier left hook that put Ali on his a*s in Madison Square Garden. It's a close call, but I'd give the edge to Ali.

The young Ali was astonishingly good, with other worldly hand speed. Billy Crystal once described a little phony bout with Ali. Billy said he never saw the punches coming. Only Ali pulling his hands back. He was unbelievably well conditioned. And he could take a punch. All that clowning to the judges that "he didn't hurt me," of course, probably contributed to his present condition.
 
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When you think Rocky Marciano, think Joe Frazier. Rock was a guy who'd dig and dig and dig until he had a chance to unload a left hook. He'd take punishment to get that shot. Frazier was much the same way. And it was a Frazier left hook that put Ali on his a*s in Madison Square Garden. It's a close call, but I'd give the edge to Ali.

The young Ali was astonishingly good, with other worldly hand speed. Billy Crystal once described a little phony bout with Ali. Billy said he never saw the punches coming. Only Ali pulling his hands back. He was unbelievably well conditioned. And he could take a punch. All that clowning to the judges that "he didn't hurt me," of course, probably contributed to his present condition.

My old man said Ali could hit as hard going backwards as he did going forwards.
 
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When you think Rocky Marciano, think Joe Frazier. Rock was a guy who'd dig and dig and dig until he had a chance to unload a left hook. He'd take punishment to get that shot. Frazier was much the same way. And it was a Frazier left hook that put Ali on his a*s in Madison Square Garden. It's a close call, but I'd give the edge to Ali.

The young Ali was astonishingly good, with other worldly hand speed. Billy Crystal once described a little phony bout with Ali. Billy said he never saw the punches coming. Only Ali pulling his hands back. He was unbelievably well conditioned. And he could take a punch. All that clowning to the judges that "he didn't hurt me," of course, probably contributed to his present condition.

Hard to compare fighters of different styles let alone different generations. The competition varied so much. Did Joe Louis fight the quality opponents, did Ali, who knows? In my mind I just think there are a group that stand out from the rest. The ones mentioned for sure. Larry Holmes and Tyson being close to them perhaps equal, perhaps a notch below. The only way to know is for fellows to face each other a couple times and that of course was just impossible. It is fun to speculate though.
 
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So...who's the better heavyweight: Ali or Marciano?

Joe Lewis is 137 years old!

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Somewhere, Mork is crying. :(

I think Carson lost it just about every time Winters was on the show. Sorry, but today's comedians can't hold a candle to Winters, Tim Conway, Dom DeLuise and many others of our generation.

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You're right because it took more genius to do a clean act than what today's comics produce.
 
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Hard to compare fighters of different styles let alone different generations. The competition varied so much. Did Joe Louis fight the quality opponents, did Ali, who knows? In my mind I just think there are a group that stand out from the rest. The ones mentioned for sure. Larry Holmes and Tyson being close to them perhaps equal, perhaps a notch below. The only way to know is for fellows to face each other a couple times and that of course was just impossible. It is fun to speculate though.

Ali once made that same point. He suggested all you can do is grade somebody within his era.
 
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Ali once made that same point. He suggested all you can do is grade somebody within his era.

Fighting is also very much about individual match ups so it is impossible to compare against common opponents. If Frazier fought Foreman 100 times he would lose 100 times. If Foreman fought Ali 100 times he would lose 95 times. But if Ali fought Frazier they could split 50-50. Hard to judge how a guy like Marciano-undefeated in his era could do against the latter heavyweights. After all, Marciano never weighed even close to what guys like Foreman did.
 
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I hate sounding callous, but at least his pain is gone. I hate seeing people have to go through that. My condolences.
I don't think it's callous at all. I go through it regularly with my mother when I go to see her at the memory care ward of her nursing home.
 
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