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D3 scores 2014-2015

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CrossCheck said:
Last D3 Poll I checked showed 3 of the top 10 teams in the nation from the nescac, Chief.... and then of course there are those pesky SAT scores.:)
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And the D3 poll means...?

SAT scores only matter to get in :) Once your in college...they don't mean squat.

And a standardized testing skeptic would claim racial bias in the SATs. How many people of color attend the NESCACs?

(of course, I'm just saying this to be facetious...I don't really think that the NESCAC schools are racist.)
 
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gojackets said:
And the D3 poll means...?

SAT scores only matter to get in :) Once your in college...they don't mean squat.

And a standardized testing skeptic would claim racial bias in the SATs. How many people of color attend the NESCACs?

(of course, I'm just saying this to be facetious...I don't really think that the NESCAC schools are racist.)
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Here is a link to the class profile for Bowdoin's Class of 2018:
http://www.bowdoin.edu/admissions/glance/index.shtml
The answer to the question is 31% students of color. The Class of 2018 also includes 12% representing the first generation of their family to attend college.
 
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shelfit said:
"Platty for instance plays a non-league vs Middy, Oswego is no slouch, then they play Elmira to finish it up."

I'd say Oswego is actually quite a big slouch! Here are the results of the three Plattsburgh games vs Oswego this year:

W 4-0 (Shots were 48-20 for Platty)
W 5-1 (Shots were 52-13 for Platty)
W 4-2 (Shots were 52-20 for Platty in the ECAC West semis)

Oswego's best goalie played the first and third games and came in half way through the second game. That's really not much of a challenge for the Cardinals especially in the semi final game.

Ok, should have left Oswego out of my arguement. The point I'm trying to make is Elmira and Platty have had to play in tougher games than RF over the last month leading into the NCAA's. I'm sure RF is going to figure out by the end of the 1st that there not playing Eau-Claire. They should just hope there not down a couple at that point either. I agree with you that the ECAC East is weak as well. I do think Norwich does a good job of spacing out there non-leagues. Holy Cross as been better in the past and I think they usually play Middlebury later than they did this year. Norwich is a true underdog this weekend. Looking at RF's roster and record make you think they could beat anybody.

In pro sports there is always the fear of a team not being sharp when they clinch early, sit there stars and get a bye-week. It's just an analogy, I know RF didn't sit anyone. But it is my reason why I think Elmira will win tomorrow. I think they'll be the sharper team.
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Tjames said:
Ok, should have left Oswego out of my arguement. The point I'm trying to make is Elmira and Platty have had to play in tougher games than RF over the last month leading into the NCAA's. I'm sure RF is going to figure out by the end of the 1st that there not playing Eau-Claire. They should just hope there not down a couple at that point either. .
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I hope Elmira has your outlook. Should be fun for River Falls if they do.

Also I wouldn't equate Stevens Point with a cupcake...they played River Falls very evenly throughout the season. Their regular season games were 1-2-1 vs River Falls and all games were 1 pt decisions. They just had a terrible game in the championship. Probably because at that point, they knew they were done for the season regardless of the outcome...stupid Adrian.
 
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Of course, when one of the NCAA criteria is the record in last 25% of games, if you don't win those tough games at the end, you're giving away one the NCAA primary criteria (and one the committee seems to value). The "advantage" UWRF has over the other Pool C teams is that they have the chance to be undefeated in that Last 25%, while the other Pool C teams all are guaranteed to have at least one loss... :rolleyes:
 
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gojackets said:
And the D3 poll means...?

SAT scores only matter to get in :) Once your in college...they don't mean squat.

And a standardized testing skeptic would claim racial bias in the SATs. How many people of color attend the NESCACs?

(of course, I'm just saying this to be facetious...I don't really think that the NESCAC schools are racist.)
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Well, forgive me for asking, but how many people of color attend UWRF, UWSP, UWEC, and UWS - numbers weren't obviously apparent on the websites so I have to believe it's not many? And also .... who cares (aside from people of color, lawyers, and the government)?
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
Well, forgive me for asking, but how many people of color attend UWRF, UWSP, UWEC, and UWS - numbers weren't obviously apparent on the websites so I have to believe it's not many? And also .... who cares (aside from people of color, lawyers, and the government)?
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UWRF - 572 (10%)
UWSP - 929 (10%)
UWEC - 1,016 (10%)
UWS - 417 (17%)

Based on results from the College Board website which uses results from self-reported surveys by the schools.
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
Well, forgive me for asking, but how many people of color attend UWRF, UWSP, UWEC, and UWS - numbers weren't obviously apparent on the websites so I have to believe it's not many? And also .... who cares (aside from people of color, lawyers, and the government)?
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And for the NESCAC

Amherst - 771 (43%)
Bowdoin - 559 (31%)
Colby - 369 (20%)
Connecticut College - 340 (18%)
Hamilton 418 (22%)
Middlebury 606 (24%)
Trinity 451 (20%)
Wesleyan 936 (32%)
Williams 818 (40%)
 
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HockeyEast33 said:
Well, forgive me for asking, but how many people of color attend UWRF, UWSP, UWEC, and UWS - numbers weren't obviously apparent on the websites so I have to believe it's not many? And also .... who cares (aside from people of color, lawyers, and the government)?
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Apparently you don't know what facetious means.

It is really funny how sensitive you all are...its way to easy to get you all riled up
 
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Scott_TG said:
UWRF - 572 (10%)
UWSP - 929 (10%)
UWEC - 1,016 (10%)
UWS - 417 (17%)

Based on results from the College Board website which uses results from self-reported surveys by the schools.
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and before you get all high and mighty on the numbers...

Wisconsin as a state is about 12% non-white according to the last census data, so those numbers are comparable to the state percentage...which should be expected for a public state school.
 
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So it looks like diversity should never have even been brought up. What is important to remember about the SAT scores is that the NESCAC schools have a significantly smaller pool of players to choose from because of those SAT requirements. Much higher standards than any of the West schools, Platty, Elmira and Norwich and still manage to put together extremely talented teams from top to bottom.
 
hockeyfanatic said:
So it looks like diversity should never have even been brought up. What is important to remember about the SAT scores is that the NESCAC schools have a significantly smaller pool of players to choose from because of those SAT requirements. Much higher standards than any of the West schools, Platty, Elmira and Norwich and still manage to put together extremely talented teams from top to bottom.
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He DID say he was being facetious... Twice, in fact. perhaps you need a dictionary?
 
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hockeyfanatic said:
So it looks like diversity should never have even been brought up. What is important to remember about the SAT scores is that the NESCAC schools have a significantly smaller pool of players to choose from because of those SAT requirements. Much higher standards than any of the West schools, Platty, Elmira and Norwich and still manage to put together extremely talented teams from top to bottom.
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Don't break your arm patting yourself (and the rest of NESCAC) on the back. If you are looking for sympathy for the poor, suffering NESCAC schools, save it. I doubt you're going to find it here. If you're looking for us to admit that the NESCAC schools are far superior to the rest of academia, well, knock yourself out. I've worked with a few NESCAC grads (hardly representative of all NESCAC grads as a whole I know), and they have no better an education than I do. And I went to a lowly state school.
 
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Whoa . . . a little sensitive out there. Not looking to pat myself on the back, but as was brought up, SAT scores do matter to college admissions. Getting into college is a great accomplishment no matter where you go and there are obviously great students who don't test well. Unfortunately, this is a criteria for the NESCAC schools, so the pool of players the NESCAC coaches have to choose from is much smaller. Given that fact, it is great that they are able to field such a group of talented teams.
 
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Just want to congratulate the four teams that are heading into the NCAA tourney tomorrow. Should be exciting and I am hoping River Falls can start a whole new discussion by winning it all!
 
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Watching the NSNSports.net video stream of the DIII Women's Championship Banquet. I just want to see the awards and such, but I get to awkwardly watch people eat while waiting for it! :o
 
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