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River Falls has been there 3 years straight. These ladies are experienced and hungry. I don't think they make the same mistakes Adrian did.
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D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
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River Falls has been there 3 years straight. These ladies are experienced and hungry. I don't think they make the same mistakes Adrian did.
It should be a great match up and a very close battle. Maybe overtime for this one.
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Nate LePage, Siena '13
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When the NCAA gets around to it!
I would think tomorrow because someone has to make flight plans & hotel plans.
When the NCAA gets around to it!
I would think tomorrow because someone has to make flight plans & hotel plans.Re: D3 Regional Rankings and Bracketology
Division I also avoids first round conference match ups.
Division I also avoids first round conference match ups.
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gojackets
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Northeastern played at Boston College on Saturday and it definitely was not due to the integrity of the bracket...not nearly as much as avoiding the Middlebury/Amherst match up *** up the D3 bracket.
Northeastern played at Boston College on Saturday and it definitely was not due to the integrity of the bracket...not nearly as much as avoiding the Middlebury/Amherst match up *** up the D3 bracket.
HockeyEast33
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So your requirement to be a real team is get to the NCAA championship game? The 21-4-3 record, the NESCAC championship, the win in the first round of the NCAA tournament - that doesn't make them a real team? So what if they beat UMB - UMB beat Norwich and Castleton last weekend and last I checked they were ranked teams. This is at or near the top of my list for stupidest post of the season. Middlebury is a real team, but they still won't beat Plattsburgh who is the best team.
So your requirement to be a real team is get to the NCAA championship game? The 21-4-3 record, the NESCAC championship, the win in the first round of the NCAA tournament - that doesn't make them a real team? So what if they beat UMB - UMB beat Norwich and Castleton last weekend and last I checked they were ranked teams. This is at or near the top of my list for stupidest post of the season. Middlebury is a real team, but they still won't beat Plattsburgh who is the best team.
HockeyEast33
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Clarkson-Quinnipiac also. That is why everyone on the D1 thread is all torqued about the pairings this season.
Clarkson-Quinnipiac also. That is why everyone on the D1 thread is all torqued about the pairings this season.
HockeyEast33
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I think what us NESCAC supporters have been saying all season is that the NESCAC is the strongest conference across the board, not that it has the best team in the country. It doesn't. Plattsburgh has been the best team in the country all season no doubt and Elmira not that far behind. The NESCAC got one team in the final four just as I would have expected.
I think what us NESCAC supporters have been saying all season is that the NESCAC is the strongest conference across the board, not that it has the best team in the country. It doesn't. Plattsburgh has been the best team in the country all season no doubt and Elmira not that far behind. The NESCAC got one team in the final four just as I would have expected.
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Quinnipiac just lost its first round game to conference foe Clarkson... six days after beating them for the ECAC championship.
Quinnipiac just lost its first round game to conference foe Clarkson... six days after beating them for the ECAC championship.
gojackets
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And as I've argued all along, just because every team in the conference "can win on any night" doesn't necessarily show the strongest conference. Doess that mean that the nescac is the "strongest conference" or are all teams "equally mediocre". Amherst got handled by Plattsburgh...to be fair, most other teams do as well. Middlebury had an easy draw...yah they beat UMB who beat Norwich and Castleton...but go back a few pages to read my thoughts on the NEHC.....
And as I've argued all along, just because every team in the conference "can win on any night" doesn't necessarily show the strongest conference. Doess that mean that the nescac is the "strongest conference" or are all teams "equally mediocre". Amherst got handled by Plattsburgh...to be fair, most other teams do as well. Middlebury had an easy draw...yah they beat UMB who beat Norwich and Castleton...but go back a few pages to read my thoughts on the NEHC.....
Birdwatcher
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If you look back a few posts, not sure which thread, you will see some numbers that I compiled that show NESCAC is not necessarily the strongest top to bottom ! As I have said, on the women's side conferences seem more even except the four or five top teams across D3.
If you look back a few posts, not sure which thread, you will see some numbers that I compiled that show NESCAC is not necessarily the strongest top to bottom ! As I have said, on the women's side conferences seem more even except the four or five top teams across D3.
PrezdeJohnson09
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You think everyone in the East sucks
How about Middlebury beating Lake Forest or Elmira, who just got manhandled by "lowly" Utica beating Elmira, who then beat your top team in Adrian.
Give it a rest dude. The East has the best team by far and away in Plattsburgh and then the group of Amherst/Middlebury/Norwich/Elmira/Utica/Castleton/UMass Boston is as good if not better than the Adrian/River Falls/Lake Forest group.
River Falls will get their chance Friday once again. We'll see if they can finally win a semifinal.
gojackets
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And WIAC is .682 out of conference..no teams with a losing OOC record
I get .707 for the ECAC-W. They definitely did not play 97 non conference games.
And WIAC is .682 out of conference..no teams with a losing OOC record
I get .707 for the ECAC-W. They definitely did not play 97 non conference games.
gojackets
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No...Plattsburgh is pretty good.
In my opinion Lake Forest was overrated. They had an easy schedule and it showed when it mattered. Granted, their best player got injured and couldn't really give it her all.
I've never said that the west teams were better than the east teams. I just push for a scrap of respect...and really any chance to get crosscheck to flame out all over the place will be taken. I think that if Adrian and Elmira played 10 games Adrian would win 5 and Elmira would win 5.
I too am hoping that River Falls can finally represent the West in a good way...but I'm sure i'll be left pouting again. and then be back to annoy you next year.
You think everyone in the East sucks
How about Middlebury beating Lake Forest or Elmira, who just got manhandled by "lowly" Utica beating Elmira, who then beat your top team in Adrian.
Give it a rest dude. The East has the best team by far and away in Plattsburgh and then the group of Amherst/Middlebury/Norwich/Elmira/Utica/Castleton/UMass Boston is as good if not better than the Adrian/River Falls/Lake Forest group.
River Falls will get their chance Friday once again. We'll see if they can finally win a semifinal.
No...Plattsburgh is pretty good.
In my opinion Lake Forest was overrated. They had an easy schedule and it showed when it mattered. Granted, their best player got injured and couldn't really give it her all.
I've never said that the west teams were better than the east teams. I just push for a scrap of respect...and really any chance to get crosscheck to flame out all over the place will be taken. I think that if Adrian and Elmira played 10 games Adrian would win 5 and Elmira would win 5.
I too am hoping that River Falls can finally represent the West in a good way...but I'm sure i'll be left pouting again. and then be back to annoy you next year.
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Birdwatcher
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you are correct......still better than NESCAC
And WIAC is .682 out of conference..no teams with a losing OOC record
you are correct......still better than NESCAC
hieronymus
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Plattsburgh/Middlebury is early game.
Best of luck to all teams. We can debate all day long who got screwed in the seeding, who deserves to be there, or that the East is better but the bottom line is this is a dream come true for most (if not all) these girls and they should all be proud of making it to the final dance. They will leave it all on the ice and someone will go home with the big trophy and someone will lose two games, but they will all leave winners in my eyes. One thing I know for certain, none of them cares one bit what any of us think.
When the NCAA gets around to it!
Plattsburgh/Middlebury is early game.
Best of luck to all teams. We can debate all day long who got screwed in the seeding, who deserves to be there, or that the East is better but the bottom line is this is a dream come true for most (if not all) these girls and they should all be proud of making it to the final dance. They will leave it all on the ice and someone will go home with the big trophy and someone will lose two games, but they will all leave winners in my eyes. One thing I know for certain, none of them cares one bit what any of us think.
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Lake Forest may indeed have been overrated, but when Greenway got hurt, they were essentially missing their two best players for the playoffs. Paluch did not play all of second semester. What was left was a group of sophomores and freshmen who had no experience on how to step up. Show me a team that is able to go the distance without their top two powerhouse players. Would Adrian be the same without Lewicki and Schroka? Would RF be the same without Kinsel and Sibley? It's a shame because I watched them earlier in their season when everyone was healthy and they were the real deal. BUT, injuries happen to everyone and can change a season ie, Gustavus.
The Adrian and Elmira game came down to experience and also that Adrian was missing Lupi and then had some stupid penalties that cost them. Discipline in trying to stay out of the box was definitely their vice the whole year, but they, like Lake Forest, were always able to overcome because they played weaker teams.
When it comes to playoffs, everybody better bring their A game and even a seemingly minor stupid penalty can change the momentum and course of the game. Hopefully, River Falls can make a play here and prove that there is some talent out West. I think they have more speed than Elmira, but wow does Elmira have poise.
Plattsburgh is unreal. I watched them also a few times this year. They don't make mistakes. I would be very surprised if they don't take the whole thing - yes, AGAIN. Houle has definitely built a dynasty and these kids know how to win.
Whoever makes it, good luck to all, will definitely be fun to watch!
Lake Forest may indeed have been overrated, but when Greenway got hurt, they were essentially missing their two best players for the playoffs. Paluch did not play all of second semester. What was left was a group of sophomores and freshmen who had no experience on how to step up. Show me a team that is able to go the distance without their top two powerhouse players. Would Adrian be the same without Lewicki and Schroka? Would RF be the same without Kinsel and Sibley? It's a shame because I watched them earlier in their season when everyone was healthy and they were the real deal. BUT, injuries happen to everyone and can change a season ie, Gustavus.
The Adrian and Elmira game came down to experience and also that Adrian was missing Lupi and then had some stupid penalties that cost them. Discipline in trying to stay out of the box was definitely their vice the whole year, but they, like Lake Forest, were always able to overcome because they played weaker teams.
When it comes to playoffs, everybody better bring their A game and even a seemingly minor stupid penalty can change the momentum and course of the game. Hopefully, River Falls can make a play here and prove that there is some talent out West. I think they have more speed than Elmira, but wow does Elmira have poise.
Plattsburgh is unreal. I watched them also a few times this year. They don't make mistakes. I would be very surprised if they don't take the whole thing - yes, AGAIN. Houle has definitely built a dynasty and these kids know how to win.
Whoever makes it, good luck to all, will definitely be fun to watch!
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I'm sorry, I have been legitimately LOLing every time I come back to this forum. Any time a West team loses, be it to another West to or an East team, it's always about WHY THEY LOST, instead of why the OTHER team WON. Sure, some have been dropping the "Elmira has experience," line, but then followed up with, "Yeah, but Adrian wasn't disciplined, they need to learn how to win, they were missing X player, they couldn't focus, etc. etc. etc."
We get it. It's a hard reality that other teams are better than the teams you prefer. But perhaps giving others credit couldn't hurt. That goes for NESCAC haters/lovers, too. Frankly? Yeah, I wanted Elmira to win because it makes the ECAC-W look better, sure. But as long as another banner is hoisted at Stafford, I couldn't care less about how good the conference looks.
I'm sorry, I have been legitimately LOLing every time I come back to this forum. Any time a West team loses, be it to another West to or an East team, it's always about WHY THEY LOST, instead of why the OTHER team WON. Sure, some have been dropping the "Elmira has experience," line, but then followed up with, "Yeah, but Adrian wasn't disciplined, they need to learn how to win, they were missing X player, they couldn't focus, etc. etc. etc."
We get it. It's a hard reality that other teams are better than the teams you prefer. But perhaps giving others credit couldn't hurt. That goes for NESCAC haters/lovers, too. Frankly? Yeah, I wanted Elmira to win because it makes the ECAC-W look better, sure. But as long as another banner is hoisted at Stafford, I couldn't care less about how good the conference looks.