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Cronin Must Go

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MinnesotaNorthStar, where are you? I need a beer for this entertainment... preferably Molson Golden. If this is a dry affair, I'll take some Tim Horton's doughnuts.
 
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I couldnt even imagine wanting another coach over there...

After watching his team the first game of the year and than watching last night, it is startling what he has accomplished. With that young of a team and after starting out so poorly, the only thing that got this team to where they are is coaching.

Without Atkinson, Hayes, Gibbons, Whitney, Muse and maybe Kreider next year, who do you think will be sitting on top of Hockey East? Maybe neither but NU is in way better shape.

To start out like they did, 3-11-4 and going 7-3-2 vs Hockey East teams in last 12, with 2 of the 3 losses in OT, it clearly is coaching...

They play with passion, they hit, they have skill and they are young.

GC is clearly the man for the job.
 
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WHAT A STUPID THREAD.

NU was amazing tonight and looked fantastic. Made BC look terrible IMO.

Cronin had these guys prepared as well as they possibly could be I think. They just seemed to know how to expose BC. It almost worked. One bounce here or there and it's a different story.

Cronin and his team impressed me tonight. It would be foolish to get rid of him.

i agree with all of this ....now Cronin has to pick his team up and get ready for friday and saturday. it will be interesting to see how it plays out
 
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Uhhhh... yes it is.

Thats what I was thinking. NO offense, John..... or Merrimack...who's having a season for the ages, you can't beat the talent + coaching + experience of BC. There's no other team in the country more suited to make that run. BC could (won't) lose the next 6 games, and no one would be worried on Chestnut Hill that they'll be ready to win the next 8 games.

That said.... Keep up the good fight Speed Racer, I'm sure SOMEONE will agree with you (hahahahahahaha)
great job last night NU, one of the more entertaining games I've seen in a while (not involving the Bruins beating the snot out of the Canadiettes). Good luck to both teams moving forward!
 
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Ha ha :)

One big difference, Merrimack's got the offensive talent to win a shootout and the defensive talent to shut teams down. Right now, who would you want to see in a one-game winner-take-all right now, Merrimack (assuming Da Costa is healthy) or BC? That's not as easy choice as you think.

You do realize that BC is 2nd nationally in offense and 5th in D right? Mack is a great story and great for the league & a BC alum but let's relax.
 
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Ha ha :)

One big difference, Merrimack's got the offensive talent to win a shootout and the defensive talent to shut teams down. Right now, who would you want to see in a one-game winner-take-all right now, Merrimack (assuming Da Costa is healthy) or BC? That's not as easy choice as you think.

BC and would bet house on it. would be fun to watch. college sports bring out the best in players on the passion side
 
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NU Speed Racer isn't a troll. He's delusional, but he's not a troll. Maybe he had a best friend from high school get cut by Cronin or something?

I will defend NU Speed Racer here. Definately not a troll. He's one of the most loyal NU fans out there. One of the original leaders of the DogHouse. And yes he was there last night (although I wasn't). He has never liked Cronin's style of coaching and has never agreed with his hire at NU. He's been against it since day 1 and he stands by his beliefs. I personally disagree with him, but he has his opinion and sticks to it. It's just frustrating to watch team after team get our hopes up and have a hearts ripped out of our chest year after year. I'm sick of it, but I'm not ready to jump off the ship yet. With the talent we have/had (Thiessen, Rawlings, Newton, Oleksiak, Dongara, etc.) I think things are moving in the right direction.
 
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I'm a long time NU fan, and I have not been to as many games as years prior due to my current school being in Maine.

Just addressing a couple things I have read in this here thread...

(1) I wouldn't say Cronin has done "a very good job". I would say he has done an OKAY job, maybe a good job. He inherited a very poor program, everyone knows that. However I have yet to see anything that has been exceptional or extraordinary. It has been very good compared to what Crowder produced in his time at NU. The program is on a trend upwards currently from where we were some years ago.

(2) A losing record this year is VERY disappointing imho. They have not played up to their capabilities and whether or not we want to admit it its partially the coaches fault.

(3) Rawlings is not as good or as sharp as everyone claims him to be. I do not see it. I literally point to him as the reason for losing the beanpot last night. I think Thessin or Gibson would have saved about half or close to have of the 7 goals that BC put in the net. I mean, Rawlings was so SLOW sliding side to side. I was a goalie back in the day and its goalie 101 to hurry back to the other post when a puck goes off the endboards behind the net, instead for whatever reason Rawlings took his time on one of the goals and BC fired the puck into the net. I thought he could have had the Kreider breakaway last night that I still don't know how it went in. Even the first goal wasn't sharp, he was not in good position with his pad at all. I can't remember all of the goals but alot of them had me scratching my head

(4) They need to get away from dumping every single time they touch the puck. All it does it loose possession and when they lose the majority of 1 on 1 battles I just don't see the point. Make some strong passes and breakout! It's exactly why BC is so much better then NU! They posses the ability to stickhandle and pass unlike the huskies. Dumping and chasing and hoping is not the answer.

(5) Silva is probably the most frustrating hockey player I have watched in awhile at NU. It's almost as aggravating as watching Birnstill REFUSE to ever shoot the puck from the point, LOL. He makes stupid plays all night long, takes stupid penalties.. it's been that way for him long before this season.

(6) The huskies have a really bright future in Oleksiak, Pimm, Reid, Eibler, Dongola as Fr... I was impressed by all of them last night. This is the recruiting class that could make Cronin go from an 'okay' job to a 'good' one on my book. I do think they need to bring in a better goalie then Rawlings. I might be wrong about him, but only time will tell.

The huskies were an average goaltending performance away from a beanpot last night.. especially aggravating after watching Gibson and other goalies stand on their head back in the day. But hey, when was the last time they put up 6 goals? Definitely a positive to take out of the game. However, I think NU was lucky they caught Muse on an off night.

To sum up; Time for Cronin to go? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
 
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This NU team is young. However they have shown that they are extremely talented. Give Cronin another three-four years. If he does not have Beanpot/HE Title(Reg season or Tournament)/Frozen Four Appearance then you can have a valid argument. However with the talent coming in and the growth of the young players it is not unreasonable to expect at least one of those in the next four years.
 
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As an outsider with no dog in the hunt, both sides to this have made a few good points. But, the simple fact is Cronin doesn't have enough history to make a call one way or the other.

A.) He has some mild success with an all-star goalie that he inherited.

B.) This is his team...in it's entirety.

C.) His team is ok

D.) The teams he has inherited have been ok


Basically Cronin has kept NU in the middle of the pack. Let's call this average. If he continues to produce average teams can him. If now that he has HIS OWN teams he can regularly challenge for those top spots then keep him. Pretty simple, but right now there is not enough data to make an objective argument either way.
 
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As an outsider with no dog in the hunt, both sides to this have made a few good points. But, the simple fact is Cronin doesn't have enough history to make a call one way or the other.

A.) He has some mild success with an all-star goalie that he inherited.

B.) This is his team...in it's entirety.

C.) His team is ok

D.) The teams he has inherited have been ok


Basically Cronin has kept NU in the middle of the pack. Let's call this average. If he continues to produce average teams can him. If now that he has HIS OWN teams he can regularly challenge for those top spots then keep him. Pretty simple, but right now there is not enough data to make an objective argument either way.

do you ever read what you write?
you have no idea what you are talking about. one of the best coaches in college hockey and is at Northeastern, good luck recruiting vs BC, BU, UNH and to a lesser extent(thank you TW), Maine.

With that many young players and to have improved so much since October speaks volumes to him and the type of kids he is bringing in. if your kid can handle him, no better guy to get the most out of a team

tearing it up right now, who cares about slow start with that many youing players out there in every key situation. great for next 3 seasons+

didnt make playoffs alst year, huge turnover

2009 lost in ot is semis at Garden. went to ncaa tournament

NU has a bright future and looks ready for a very strong 2-3 year run.
 
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I'm a long time NU fan, and I have not been to as many games as years prior due to my current school being in Maine.

Just addressing a couple things I have read in this here thread...

(1) I wouldn't say Cronin has done "a very good job". I would say he has done an OKAY job, maybe a good job. He inherited a very poor program, everyone knows that. However I have yet to see anything that has been exceptional or extraordinary. It has been very good compared to what Crowder produced in his time at NU. The program is on a trend upwards currently from where we were some years ago.

(2) A losing record this year is VERY disappointing imho. They have not played up to their capabilities and whether or not we want to admit it its partially the coaches fault.

(3) Rawlings is not as good or as sharp as everyone claims him to be. I do not see it. I literally point to him as the reason for losing the beanpot last night. I think Thessin or Gibson would have saved about half or close to have of the 7 goals that BC put in the net. I mean, Rawlings was so SLOW sliding side to side. I was a goalie back in the day and its goalie 101 to hurry back to the other post when a puck goes off the endboards behind the net, instead for whatever reason Rawlings took his time on one of the goals and BC fired the puck into the net. I thought he could have had the Kreider breakaway last night that I still don't know how it went in. Even the first goal wasn't sharp, he was not in good position with his pad at all. I can't remember all of the goals but alot of them had me scratching my head

(4) They need to get away from dumping every single time they touch the puck. All it does it loose possession and when they lose the majority of 1 on 1 battles I just don't see the point. Make some strong passes and breakout! It's exactly why BC is so much better then NU! They posses the ability to stickhandle and pass unlike the huskies. Dumping and chasing and hoping is not the answer.

(5) Silva is probably the most frustrating hockey player I have watched in awhile at NU. It's almost as aggravating as watching Birnstill REFUSE to ever shoot the puck from the point, LOL. He makes stupid plays all night long, takes stupid penalties.. it's been that way for him long before this season.

(6) The huskies have a really bright future in Oleksiak, Pimm, Reid, Eibler, Dongola as Fr... I was impressed by all of them last night. This is the recruiting class that could make Cronin go from an 'okay' job to a 'good' one on my book. I do think they need to bring in a better goalie then Rawlings. I might be wrong about him, but only time will tell.

The huskies were an average goaltending performance away from a beanpot last night.. especially aggravating after watching Gibson and other goalies stand on their head back in the day. But hey, when was the last time they put up 6 goals? Definitely a positive to take out of the game. However, I think NU was lucky they caught Muse on an off night.

To sum up; Time for Cronin to go? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

1) I agree. He has done a good job, not very good.

2) Agree again. But, after the way the season started, It's nice to see this turn around post Christmas. The three AHA losses were embarassing. But glad to see this team move in the right direction.

3) I have to disagree on this one. I think Rawlings is a good tender. That was just a bad game by both him and Muse. I think he will be good. Look at Thiessen's number his sophomore year: 2.64 GAA; 16-17-3 0.914 2 SO Rawlings this year 2.30 GAA; 9-10-6 0.930 5 SO. Let's see where it goes. I just think that he had a bad game last night.

4) I hate the dump and chase. I agree 300% with this.

5) Yup. I agree. I was shocked when he passed it to MacLeod for the tying goal in the third. SHOCKED.

6) I agree with everything except Rawlings. Again, I think it was just a bad night.

The last two times NU has faced Muse in the pot, they put up a 6 spot on him. His only good year in the pot was last year. They seem to do that against Muse in the pot. Heck, even Harvard put 5 on him (on 26 shots) in the title game his freshman year.

Last time we put up a 6 spot? Umass last year after the pot. Before that? bc in the pot the year before.

Definately not time for Cro to go just yet....
 
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A.) He has some mild success with an all-star goalie that he inherited.

You're dead wrong with this statement. Thiessen's freshman year was Cronin's second. He was a Cronin recruit. Stole him from the likes of NoDak and Cornell.
 
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You're dead wrong with this statement. Thiessen's freshman year was Cronin's second. He was a Cronin recruit. Stole him from the likes of NoDak and Cornell.

of course it was. take it from the source

a good coach was willing to take early lumps to get better as season went along, when it counts.
 
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I don't know if Cronin should go, but what about his checklist for a "perfect game" to beat BC. Dont think it included the penalties or giving up 7 goals...
 
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I also don't think BS wanted to give up 6 goals to NU and have to go into overtime...

As for dump and chase, it works, but not against a team with the physical skill of BC. They just outworked us in the corners all night.

I just want more hockey to be played, I'm done with the Beanpot, it is what it is. If we can set up for a first round vs. BU, I'll be really excited. Merrimack not as much but they don't overmatch us, we play them close.
 
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imo, NU needs to recruit more speed, less bruteage. Crazy Cronin's doing just a fine job. But, if u insist, we'll give ya Timmay and a player to be named later. Or 10 players to be named later. Or cash, or both. Anything to get rid of that phkn Whitehead character. :D
 
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