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Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

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wolverineTrumpet said:
Husband's cousin is offering to host Thanksgiving this year. She just posted a joke to social media: "Why doesn't coronavirus effect the Amish? Because they don't have tv".
Yeah, I'm not going to Thanksgiving with the Faux News brainwashed parts of the family that don't treat this virus as the threat it is.

I try to refrain from arguing via social media, but I really want to respond to this statement about the Amish with: 'because they don't crowd into bars. Or because they respect the other members of their community enough to make sacrifices for each other.'
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There have been outbreaks in Amish communities: https://www.indystar.com/story/news...eads-among-amish-northern-indiana/5536002002/
 
Swansong said:
Yeah... he didn't say there was no cross immunity. He corrected the muddled dribble from an over-his-skis Senator.

Why? Because of masks, social distancing and other closures. That's why. There's no real counter-argument left. You're arguing that the earth is flat at this point.
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So whether you agree with the course they took or not, how did Sweden see the virus come and go?

Why does Peru have the highest death rate in the World after issuing strict curfews and military lockdown?

California vs Florida why did they see very similar curves when one had much more strict measures in place?
 
Fauci cautions that a Covid-19 vaccine won't eliminate the need for masks and public health measures

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
The US continues to lead the world in both deaths and infections and now experts warn that the spread of the virus could get much worse with schools now open and flu season on its way.

At least 21 states -- mostly across the US heartland and Midwest -- are reporting an increase in new Covid-19 cases compared to the previous week. Nationwide, the US is averaging more than 43,000 new cases per day -- about double what the country was averaging back in June when lockdown restrictions were easing.

Researchers with the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation predict a total of more than 378,000 Americans will have died from Covid-19 by January 1.https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/health/us-coronavirus-thursday/index.html

I'm quite skeptical of the 378k number, but regardless the facts we do have are a clear indication this country has handled this pandemic as poorly as possible and only a blind fool would argue otherwise.
 
I think we're going to likely need at least some of said public health measures for 3-6 months after a vaccine is available in a widespread manner. For one, it just takes a while to distribute these, let alone administer. But there are so many bone-headed morons that will refuse to get it (whether they're trump kool-aid drinkers or simply don't understand how immunity works, or both) that it's going to be a while before we reach that mythical herd immunity.

Masks will be an important part of this medium-term strategy. If only we had a federal government that didn't look at it from a purely partisan view point.


A friend-of-a-friend is the CEO of a major Arkansas hospital system and he predicts that "normal" would start some time next summer. I asked my hospital's CMIO (Chief Medical Information Officer - admittedly not an epidemiologist) his thoughts on that time frame and he said he agreed and that our hospital and parent system were approximately on the same wavelength.

It begs the question of what could have been if Trump was remotely competent. The fact is, without a vaccine, mitigation measures merely tamp it down. As soon as you let them open up, the virus comes right back. We'd have a lot fewer deaths, but we'd still be dealing with COVID itself and COVID-related closures and economic impact.
 
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Swansong said:
I think we're going to likely need at least some of said public health measures for 3-6 months after a vaccine is available in a widespread manner. For one, it just takes a while to distribute these, let alone administer. But there are so many bone-headed morons that will refuse to get it (whether they're trump kool-aid drinkers or simply don't understand how immunity works, or both) that it's going to be a while before we reach that mythical herd immunity.
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Is there a consensus developing around how long immunity last once someone recovers from Covid-19?
 
Swansong said:
Why? Because of masks, social distancing and other closures. That's why. There's no real counter-argument left. You're arguing that the earth is flat at this point.
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Sweden's Course - Lockdowns, hand sanitizer and social distancing, medical breakthroughs of 2020. Oh wait

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One more time.
Hey Swangsong can you let me know the last time a respiratory disease only required a positive PCR test as the sole method of diagnosis and not a clinical examine to validate the test?
 
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Cases! #LockMeDown #IPeeMyPants

Little different this time. This is what the country cases look like if you held testing constant at 600,000 per day. It shows two things: a) The northeast got ROCKED in March, and b) The sunbelt, despite not as many lockdowns, faired much much better.
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Best of luck to both of you. Really sorry to hear this is lingering for you DGF and hf77 hopefully you're on the other side getting better.
 
I'm just going to go back to ignoring the troll, maybe it'll just go away.


and I'm sorry guys - I hope you start recovering properly soon. COVID is such a bastard. I know Troll is likely a bot, but I do wish actual humans like Chuck and Whalers could see what their absurd rejection of medical science is leading to.
 
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Swansong said:
COVID is such a bastard. I know Troll is likely a bot, but I do wish actual humans like Chuck and Whalers could see what their absurd rejection of medical science is leading to.
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No one is "rejecting medical science". I'm relying on actual data. You can tell the difference, right?

A doctor's opinion - well reasoned or not - does not overturn data. If the data says places like NY, NJ and MA really effed this thing up, and places like FL, TX and GA didn't - well, then that means those states did a better job balancing real life needs (especially employment and overall mental health of their citizens) with medical care (minimizing deaths) than the others.

And unless you have a real affinity for authoritarianism, you realize that the states and their governors all get to make their own policies, and our President should never be expected to jump in and shut the whole thing down. It's a dangerous step, and it's one that was not taken by President Wilson (D 1918-1919), President Eisenhower (R 1958) or Presidents Johnson/Nixon (D/R 1968-1969) when they faced their pandemics. Furthermore, no country even remotely close to our size has done better in managing the current situation.

COVID-19 began in China - FACT. The WHO and Communist China conspired to insulate China from blame - FACT. The rest of the world has been forced to play defense ever since. FACT.

COVID-19 has had its most dire impacts on the elderly and immuno-compromised. We suspected that at the beginning, and the data has since confirmed that. FACT. The "first wave" peaked six months ago. FACT. Most (admittedly not all) folks who were not elderly or compromised who have contracted COVID-19 survived or will survive with no serious after-effects. FACT.

Folks who cannot admit FACTS, and continue to foster hysteria and fear, are ill-advised at best.

No one - certainly not me - knows what's coming next. A "second wave" may OR may not happen. Anyone who tells you they know that answer definitively is being disingenuous at best.

Frankly, most everything since the curve was flattened has been about politics. Sad but true.

Have a nice weekend, all. And don't forget to wake Gropey in time for Tuesday night's debate!!
 
Swansong said:
I give up.

We're just doomed until a vaccine is available, and probably 6-9 months beyond. Because of you.
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You should give up. The Cup of Coffee on this thing is still hot and you think the "Science" is settled. There is nothing scientific about that kind of attitude.

The reality is, Science is now politically incorrect, you know detecting differences between things using objective measures & observations. Those who feel insecure about their argument get angry and frustrated because there is no place for legitimate discussion. Your insecurity leads you to have to use your imagination instead of sound reason, ""we're doomed, because of you"" just silliness.

Which leads us to the whole, if you aren't feeling afraid you aren't respecting the severity of the situation. Very scientific.

Thanks for throwing in the towel.

One last time. My apologizes for asking such an inconvenient question. Just responsed with, "Science" if you have nothing else.

Hey Swangsong can you let me know the last time a respiratory disease only required a positive PCR test as the sole method of diagnosis and not a clinical examine to validate the test?
 
Way to go, rural Minnesota

“BREAKING: A door-to-door COVID-19 testing survey has been halted due to multiple incidents in outstate Minnesota of residents intimidating and shouting racial and ethnic slurs at state and federal public health survey teams.”
 
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