Covfefe-19 The 12th Part: The Only Thing Worse Than This New Board Is TrumpVirus2020

[Jeb2020]

You wouldn't know what walking circles around anyone is. You are so sad, so pathetic...and what's worse...you think you're smart.

Such a good little soldier...

Great post.


CASES!!!!

 

[aparch]

Amazing. Jeb! continues to not understand anything he posts, yet he bravely continues posting.

He's definitely a Mich State grad. Can't read! Can't write! Go Spartans!


Also... Has 1/R[SUB]t [/SUB] < 1.0 yet?

I'll give you a hint buddy:
NOPE.

 

[Handyman]

You wouldn't know what walking circles around anyone is. You are so sad, so pathetic...and what's worse...you think you're smart.

Such a good little soldier...

Live look at Jeb's house

 

[Slap Shot]

Massive genetic study shows coronavirus mutating and potentially evolving amid rapid U.S. spread

The largest U.S. genetic study of the virus, conducted in Houston, shows one viral strain outdistancing all of its competitors, and many potentially important mutations

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Massive genetic study shows coronavirus mutating and potentially evolving amid rapid U.S. spread

The largest U.S. genetic study of the virus, conducted in Houston, shows one viral strain outdistancing all of its competitors, and many potentially important mutations

We are so fucked. I am so bummed right now that I have to live in a country that doesn't believe in science.

 

[Swansong]

Keep in mind that the study has not been vetted yet. The second and third paragraphs say:

The new report, however, did not find that these mutations have made the virus deadlier or changed clinical outcomes. All viruses accumulate genetic mutations, and most are insignificant, scientists say.

Coronaviruses such as SARS-CoV-2 are relatively stable as viruses go, because they have a proofreading mechanism as they replicate. But every mutation is a roll of the dice, and with transmission so widespread in the United States — which continues to see tens of thousands of new, confirmed infections daily — the virus has had abundant opportunities to change, potentially with troublesome consequences, said study author James Musser of Houston Methodist Hospital.

I bolded two key points. The mutation discovered does not fundamentally change the virus, how it's treated, how it impacts an individual or how we might develop immunity to it. And corona viruses are typically among the more stable (the polar opposite of influenzas on that regard). But with such uncontrolled spread, as the article and study state, we are giving it lots of chances to change.


One thing we all need to keep in mind - even those of us not brain dead or not trolls - is that science develops slowly and we should not react emotionally to a single study like this. This is the first time we've watched the scientific process play out in real time. Almost none of us have experienced it before.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Keep in mind that the study has not been vetted yet. The second and third paragraphs say:


I bolded two key points. The mutation discovered does not fundamentally change the virus, how it's treated, how it impacts an individual or how we might develop immunity to it. And corona viruses are typically among the more stable (the polar opposite of influenzas on that regard). But with such uncontrolled spread, as the article and study state, we are giving it lots of chances to change.


One thing we all need to keep in mind - even those of us not brain dead or not trolls - is that science develops slowly and we should not react emotionally to a single study like this. This is the first time we've watched the scientific process play out in real time. Almost none of us have experienced it before.

Well that's all positive.

The negative is that we have doctors in the Senate who believe New York City has achieved herd immunity already and that's why their numbers are going down.

 

[Jeb2020]

Amazing. Jeb! continues to not understand anything he posts, yet he bravely continues posting.

He's definitely a Mich State grad. Can't read! Can't write! Go Spartans!


Also... Has 1/R[SUB]t [/SUB] < 1.0 yet?

I'll give you a hint buddy:
NOPE.

Good post about my posts. That really adds a lot of valuable content, I might have to reconsider some things.


In regards to Rt what happens when all the data going into the equation is garbage? Wyoming and their 50 "Covid" deaths looks like it is in "Scary" territory.

What do you suggest we do until we get below < 1.0

 

[Swansong]

Well that's all positive.

The negative is that we have doctors in the Senate who believe New York City has achieved herd immunity already and that's why their numbers are going down.

Fauci's dismantling of Senator Paul was amazing to watch, but incredibly frustrating.

 

[Whalers]

In MN more people 90 and older have passed away than 65 and younger. Almost all of them were in long term care facilities.

How about the ones 90 and over who didn't die, BUT came down with myocarditis? Huh? I dont think that you factored this in when you were spouting this orange man talking point.

Maybe you didn't you see the story that proves 8280 college athletes didn't die of corona but are going to be living (or succumbing) with myocarditis for the remainder of their lives? 22 corona positive athletes were rigorously tested at THE Ohio State and 4 of them (18 f*&K!ng percent!!) had myocarditis symptoms? TIMES (???) these peer reviewed (but ever changing) results against 460,000 college athletes (though the VAST majority won't even be actually playing a sport this year because their seasons were cancelled, hmmmm?) and a tremendous numbers of elite athletes (or Bowdoin div 3 rowers) are at risk and you don't even care. I know that I can only give you 3 actual KNOWN examples of this being an issue, but I need you to answer me on this RIGHT NOW!

You still want to look yourself in the mirror and try and tell me that this is all just a ploy to get Joe Biden elected? If you do, why don't you give up on this utter nonsense and help us to stop the spread by joining the corona and myocarditis vaccine trials going on nightly (at least until Nov 3rd) in select cities across America? Not ONE person from ANY of these close quarter testing sites has developed Corona OR myocarditis, so use THAT for a talking point!

 

[Swansong]

Truly, your intellect is dizzying.

 

[Slap Shot]

Keep in mind that the study has not been vetted yet. The second and third paragraphs say:


I bolded two key points. The mutation discovered does not fundamentally change the virus, how it's treated, how it impacts an individual or how we might develop immunity to it. And corona viruses are typically among the more stable (the polar opposite of influenzas on that regard). But with such uncontrolled spread, as the article and study state, we are giving it lots of chances to change.


One thing we all need to keep in mind - even those of us not brain dead or not trolls - is that science develops slowly and we should not react emotionally to a single study like this. This is the first time we've watched the scientific process play out in real time. Almost none of us have experienced it before.

That is a positive, but from your own quote there are still reasons to be at best cautiously optimistic:

But every mutation is a roll of the dice, and with transmission so widespread in the United States — which continues to see tens of thousands of new, confirmed infections daily...

 

[Swansong]

That is a positive, but from your own quote there are still reasons to be at best cautiously optimistic:

Absolutely, and it's another point in the endless list of screwups by our federal government. Not controlling this (or more specifically, abdicating the federal governments responsibility to the states) is the reason we're in the state we're in.

Every time a virus replicates, there's a non-zero chance of mutation. Due to the general structure of different viruses, that chance can be higher or lower. But with such uncontrolled spread as we have now, the opportunities for mutation are orders of magnitude higher than they would be if we had addressed the virus appropriately from the start.

 

[rufus]

But we did address the virus appropriately from the start. Without Donnie's swift action and firm determination, not to mention his calming demeanor, we could have billions dead by now.

 

[WisconsinWildcard]

Fauci's dismantling of Senator Paul was amazing to watch, but incredibly frustrating.

Agreed. He does literally author the book on internal medicine.

https://www.amazon.com/Harrisons-Principles-Internal-Medicine-Twentieth/dp/1259644030

 

[Jeb2020]

But we did address the virus appropriately from the start. Without Donnie's swift action and firm determination, not to mention his calming demeanor, we could have billions dead by now.

Correction, the Hysterical Models that were followed said Millions, not Billions.

 

[Jeb2020]

Fauci's dismantling of Senator Paul was amazing to watch, but incredibly frustrating.

Good Stuff.

The significance of the 9/23 Fauci vs Rand Paul exchange
* Fauci either lied or lost his memory yesterday
* Top half is yesterday's transcript, Bottom half is Fauci's quotes in August on the same topic
* Fauci's statements are in green
* Immunity references are in Red

I'm sure the words coming out of Lord Fauch's mouth in August was actually juts a conspiracy.

 

[Handyman]

Yeah Fauci was awesome tearing the Fake Ophthalmologist apart. Paul tried to get his little jab in at the end about Herd Immunity and Fauci just pimpslapped him back to Kentucky.

Of course the fact we are still losing a thousand people a day hasnt deterred people from not caring. Numbers are already starting to rise and we havent even gotten to October yet. Teachers around here are starting to freak out because no one seems to know what the districts or the state is going to do for next semester.

 

[Slap Shot]

The moving trend for daily cases started falling July 24th through September 12th but have been increasing since. The moving trend for deaths as such started falling in early August (makes sense) so it remains to be seen if that steady decline will reverse itself.

With that noted the country is on pace for 281k dead by EOY not accounting for how worsening weather could impact the numbers.

 

[Swansong]

So, purposefully misrepresenting what Fauci and others have said is how we're rolling? ok.

The common cold is caused by a zillion viruses. the four non-lethal human coronaviruses that we know about are among them, but they are far from the most common causes (rhinoviruses take that trophy). And yes, if you were exposed to one of those four coronaviruses (or managed to live through SARS 1 or MERS), you might have some limited immunity to SARS 2. Or you might not, and in fact it might be much worse for you.

If you want to take that established fact (which is more or less true for any family of virus), and extrapolate that the 70-80% spread required for effective herd immunity is actually 25%, then I don't know what to tell you. But that's Enron-level accounting.