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Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

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From the past thread:

Kepler said:
Are you saying that there are trusted public figures who are accusing Biden of being a rapist? Or are you saying they are serving as the conduit for crazies (or bots) to inject that into the national bloodstream by retweeting those accusations? And if the latter are they doing so in trying to rebut them or are they cynically passing it along to gather clicks or approvals or whatever the social media currency they monetize is?

The answer is both. There are some who flat out are saying they take all of it seriously and he should not be the nominee because of it. (and will accept Bernie or Nothing...if you want to get inundated with that stuff follow John Cusack on Twitter you will see the stuff Fade and I often talk about) Others not so much. All of them are grifters spreading the message of revolution above all else. If division and a repeat of 2016 are the virus, they arent fighting it they are basically acting like Governor DeSantis.

dx said:
Not sure what the 54 million figure is getting at. If you're trying to figure out infectinos, that's bad math. You're more likely to get tested if you're sick. It also doesn't preclude you from getting sick if you test negative.

I know you're smarter than that, so that's why I'm curious what you're getting at.

I wasnt getting at anything except to show what the numbers would be if, in a hypothetical situation, everyone in the country became infected. All I was doing was extrapolating the numbers out to show what we are talking about if this thing spirals out of control. (and obviously not taking into account any other factors because we cant know most of them until after we are done with this)

So basically I am not proving anything, just throwing out some numbers based on what we currently know and expanding it to the population at large. It is a worst case scenario. Not scientific or meant to do anything but kinda put in context the numbers we have so far.
 
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Totally in favor of these guys owning the libs. Bro hugs and handshakes all around!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Despite calls for social distancing to curb the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/COVID19?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#COVID19</a> pandemic, neo-Confederate hate group League of the South is moving ahead with its annual conference in June. <a href="https://t.co/owCf3pE3ad">https://t.co/owCf3pE3ad</a></p>— Hatewatch (@Hatewatch) <a href="https://twitter.com/Hatewatch/status/1244670860746784768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I hope they invite Stephen Miller as guest of honor. Hell, go for Dump himself.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy mother of God.<br><br>This is an aircraft carrier. This is a critical component of our national security posture. Where is the president? Why did the captain have to go public? <a href="https://t.co/kB49T25HZJ">https://t.co/kB49T25HZJ</a></p>— Bradley P. Moss (@BradMossEsq) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradMossEsq/status/1244994511069159424?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did these guys port up in a Covid hotbed before it was determined it would be a bad idea?


Regarding using tape in grocery stores for social distancing: It's not dumb that they're doing it, it's sad they have to because otherwise people are too dumb to do it on their own. :)
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

From the past thread:



The answer is both. There are some who flat out are saying they take all of it seriously and he should not be the nominee because of it. (and will accept Bernie or Nothing...if you want to get inundated with that stuff follow John Cusack on Twitter you will see the stuff Fade and I often talk about) Others not so much. All of them are grifters spreading the message of revolution above all else. If division and a repeat of 2016 are the virus, they arent fighting it they are basically acting like Governor DeSantis.



I wasnt getting at anything except to show what the numbers would be if, in a hypothetical situation, everyone in the country became infected. All I was doing was extrapolating the numbers out to show what we are talking about if this thing spirals out of control. (and obviously not taking into account any other factors because we cant know most of them until after we are done with this)

So basically I am not proving anything, just throwing out some numbers based on what we currently know and expanding it to the population at large. It is a worst case scenario. Not scientific or meant to do anything but kinda put in context the numbers we have so far.

you can't really use the % testing positive now to extrapolate the total population that eventually becomes infected. Some of those testing negative now can and will become infected later.
 
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The answer is both. There are some who flat out are saying they take all of it seriously and he should not be the nominee because of it. (and will accept Bernie or Nothing...if you want to get inundated with that stuff follow John Cusack on Twitter you will see the stuff Fade and I often talk about) Others not so much. All of them are grifters spreading the message of revolution above all else. If division and a repeat of 2016 are the virus, they arent fighting it they are basically acting like Governor DeSantis.

If it's a celebrity that's one thing. Anybody who takes a celebrity seriously on matters of public policy is begging for Darwin for breakfast.

When you cited "public figures" and "media" I was thinking it was reporters, analysts, or staffers. That would be 1000x worse since those people ought to know better and are serving something larger than their own Q score.
 
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you can't really use the % testing positive now to extrapolate the total population that eventually becomes infected. Some of those testing negative now can and will become infected later.

I saw a statistic that a new virus' first wave burns out when 80% of the population has been exposed. I'm assuming:

80% exposed
20% of exposed infected
02% of infected dead

For the world:
9 billion population
7.2 billion exposed
1.4 billion infected
29 million dead

For the US:
330 million population
264 million exposed
53 million infected
1.1 million dead

For comparison, the CDC estimated 38-54M flu illnesses this season, so down to the level of infection the numbers check. The trick is to keep the number of deaths closer to what it is for the flu (60,000) than it would be if we had absolutely no immunity or vaccine (a brand new virus).
 
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I saw a statistic that a new virus' first wave burns out when 80% of the population has been exposed. I'm assuming:

80% exposed
20% of exposed infected
02% of infected dead

For the world:
9 billion population
7.2 billion exposed
1.4 billion infected
29 million dead

For the US:
330 million population
264 million exposed
53 million infected
1.1 million dead

Well just wait until the Chinese bioweapon teams improve on the kill ratio;)
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

Did these guys port up in a Covid hotbed before it was determined it would be a bad idea?


Regarding using tape in grocery stores for social distancing: It's not dumb that they're doing it, it's sad they have to because otherwise people are too dumb to do it on their own. :)

That was my point.
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

I saw a statistic that a new virus' first wave burns out when 80% of the population has been exposed. I'm assuming:

80% exposed
20% of exposed infected
02% of infected dead

For the world:
9 billion population
7.2 billion exposed
1.4 billion infected
29 million dead

For the US:
330 million population
264 million exposed
53 million infected
1.1 million dead

For comparison, the CDC estimated 38-54M flu illnesses this season, so down to the level of infection the numbers check. The trick is to keep the number of deaths closer to what it is for the flu (60,000) than it would be if we had absolutely no immunity or vaccine (a brand new virus).

There was a study reported in The Lancet a day or two ago that suggested the death rate may be only a third of that, for what it's worth. I know Handy won't like it because it references the Diamond Princess. :)
 
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Regarding using tape in grocery stores for social distancing: It's not dumb that they're doing it, it's sad they have to because otherwise people are too dumb to do it on their own. :)

I went to the DMV to renew my drivers license. They had orange pylons set up six feet apart in the lobby (of course they did.) I was worried they were going to make me take a driving test.
 
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Regarding using tape in grocery stores for social distancing: It's not dumb that they're doing it, it's sad they have to because otherwise people are too dumb to do it on their own. :)

I get that, I'm saying I actually have sympathy with people who queue up and forget. Unconscious behaviors are unconscious. When I see the tape it's a reminder I'm grateful for. It's also a message to the Republican behind me not to invade my space regardless of whether he believes that God sent the virus to punish them homos so it won't hurt a Christian. Anything that means I don't have to interact with him is a godsend, so to speak.
 
You misspelled Battelle.

CH2M Hill? Those bunch of fu** ups couldn't even get sh** to flow downhill in Chicago*, I doubt they could even draw a biological super weapon with a box of crayons and a coloring book of germs, let alone create one.


* Their super team of engineers/inspectors with them and three other companies have a contract to replace sewer and water lines throughout the whole city of Chicago. They had to halt work last year when it was found out they were re-connecting sewer lines from homes out of spec.
 
CH2M Hill? Those bunch of fu** ups couldn't even get sh** to flow downhill in Chicago*, I doubt they could even draw a biological super weapon with a box of crayons and a coloring book of germs, let alone create one.


* Their super team of engineers/inspectors with them and three other companies have a contract to replace sewer and water lines throughout the whole city of Chicago. They had to halt work last year when it was found out they were re-connecting sewer lines from homes out of spec.
The only thing I know about CH2M Hill is they’re the ones who bought out Veco Alaska, the company responsible for a huge bribery scandal a decade or so ago.
 
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There was a study reported in The Lancet a day or two ago that suggested the death rate may be only a third of that, for what it's worth. I know Handy won't like it because it references the Diamond Princess. :)

so 300.000 is ok then. Big win. Yay America
 
Re: Covfefe-19 part 6: Waiting For Advice from Kid Rock and Tiger Woods now.

There was a study reported in The Lancet a day or two ago that suggested the death rate may be only a third of that, for what it's worth. I know Handy won't like it because it references the Diamond Princess. :)

1/3 of what, 2%? That's still close to an order of magnitude worse than influenza.

Also, all of this downplaying of this virus and comparing it to common influenza- I've been around for over 50 years now, and I can't recall anytime in my life time that the common influenza ever overwhelmed multiple hospital systems all over the world at the same time.

So can we stop with that stupid comparison and just get on with what we have here?
 
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