Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

[Jimjamesak]

That’s a pretty low move by Sic pulling that kind of lame trolling targeted specifically at MissT knowing full well she’ll respond (and I don’t blame her for responding either).

It’s suspension worthy to be honest.

 

[Handyman]

I don't think society vilifies teachers, certainly not to the extent that we do with cops.

You would be wrong. Like so wrong I am not even sure you can see "Correct" from your vantage point.

 

[The Sicatoka]

And I googled this story for myself. It's only RCP, National Review, FOX, and The Washington Examiner reporting it as a predatory trans student.

Two of the three story sources I provided are not in that list, ma'am.

 

[Handyman]

People have complained about teachers unions and whether they have too much influence over the school, etc... But teachers as a profession, I disagree.

You want to vilify cop unions, have it. I think a fair argument can be made that they have made it too difficult to fire bad cops.

No a small segment vilify the union...teachers have been ripped by the Right forever and a day. We have been called "Indoctrinators" for as long as I have been alive. Ask teachers south of the Mason-Dixon what they have to hear on a day to day basis from not just students/parents but the local media. (which is Right Leaning) And that was before all of this mess. Teachers are to blame when kids fail, teachers are to blame when kids skip, teachers are to blame when schools shut down, teachers are to blame for why the system doesn't work. The only time people bitch about the union is when teachers go on strike.

If you havent seen it you are willfully blind. Christ my GF was screamed at for being a Leftist Socialist Indoctrinator while we were on vacation a few months back.

 

[unofan]

No a small segment vilify the union...teachers have been ripped by the Right forever and a day. We have been called "Indoctrinators" for as long as I have been alive. Ask teachers south of the Mason-Dixon what they have to hear on a day to day basis from not just students/parents but the local media. (which is Right Leaning) And that was before all of this mess. Teachers are to blame when kids fail, teachers are to blame when kids skip, teachers are to blame when schools shut down, teachers are to blame for why the system doesn't work. The only time people ***** about the union is when teachers go on strike.

If you havent seen it you are willfully blind. Christ my GF was screamed at for being a Leftist Socialist Indoctrinator while we were on vacation a few months back.

And don't forget that teachers have been fired for wearing a bikini to a pool, having a drink in a bar, and other normal adult activities outside of school because parents somehow think teachers aren't actual people.

 

[Handyman]

And WJLA, and the local fish wrapper, and (evil) Fox News.


Be upset with the perp and what he's* doing that hurts your cause Thundercat. (I'm willing to bet the perp is more evil opportunist than anything.)


*Used as default as story refers to "boy".

So then I assume you call all normal predators by their gender/sex as well. So say when just some random person attacks others they are "The Hetero Male CIS Predator"? (apologies if that doesn't make sense I am still learning) Methinks not.

See that is the old Right Wing trick...like when they made sure to always put the "Hussein" in Obama's name to try and scare the Olds. Anyone who took Communications 101 knows the game the Daily Wire and the Murdoch Empire were pulling. Yes, even you Sic despite your "Who Me?" schtick.

Apologies for quoting Kep but it needed to be done.

 

[Handyman]

It's longevity. Sic has been here forever and a day. We all "know" him so to speak. Jebbers is a new troll.

Yeah. In the late 90s/early 2000s Sic was different. Of course we had clowns like Phil Dupree and Nate_91b back then so he would have looked good compared to them anyways ;^)

 

[The Sicatoka]

So then I assume you call all normal predators by their gender/sex as well.

In reference to the perp I should have said "it" because sexual predators do not deserve human pronouns.

 

[Handyman]

And don't forget that teachers have been fired for wearing a bikini to a pool, having a drink in a bar, and other normal adult activities outside of school because parents somehow think teachers aren't actual people.

We aren't. We are glorified babysitters. No one showed us an ounce of respect until they had to teach their children themselves. They lasted what...a month before they started begging schools to open and praising teachers? The Right thinks that anyone can do our job...

The Right also cuts funding to education every chance they get and then wonder why our students are barely literate. The only thing they want is prayer in school and their little johnny to get good grades so they can go date rape women in college.

But hey, no one vilifies teachers...that is why the school board meetings about CRT have been so calm and not newsworthy. What a fucking joke...teachers aren't even teaching CRT they are teaching basic history but they are threatened, attacked and are being asked to wear cameras in classrooms. All because a bunch of sad flaccid White Men and Women can't accept that Black People/Asians/Jews/Native Americans got a raw deal.

 

[unofan]

Yeah. In the late 90s/early 2000s Sic was different. Of course we had clowns like Phil Dupree and Nate_91b back then so he would have looked good compared to them anyways ;^)

I don't know about that. BOOMSHAKALAK is more profound than the "just asking questions" shtick in many ways.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

The Right also cuts funding to education every chance they get and then wonder why our students are barely literate.

That's just part of the plan.

 

[The Sicatoka]

We aren't. We are glorified babysitters. No one showed us an ounce of respect until they had to teach their children themselves.

Yup. Parents learned their kids aren't the little gems they claim.

The person I care the most for in this world quit their profession, teaching, because she got no support from parents or admin. The second direct death threat (two different students, where there was no repercussion on the students) was the final straw.

Teaching is a career I'd aim no one toward.

Signed,
Son of a teacher and teacher who quit to farm full time

 

[ScoobyDoo]

That's just part of the plan.

Yeah, it's a simple script yet stupid Americans fall for it over and over and over again.

 

[SJHovey]

You would be wrong. Like so wrong I am not even sure you can see "Correct" from your vantage point.

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on this. My perception is that the teaching profession is looked on more favorably than law enforcement, but I'm not a teacher and its been a long time since I've been in school.

However, my original point still stands, which is that it is, imho, harmful for society to vilify the law enforcement profession (and teachers too) if we expect good people to enter that profession.

 

[rufus]

Yeah. In the late 90s/early 2000s Sic was different. Of course we had clowns like Phil Dupree and Nate_91b back then so he would have looked good compared to them anyways ;^)

Like with everyone else, the election of Wee Donnie One-term allowed him to drop the pretense and reveal his true self to the world. Fuck your feelings.

 

[rufus]

In reference to the perp I should have said "it" because sexual predators do not deserve human pronouns.

Unless they're Republicans, and then you elect them to Congress and the presidency.

 

[psych]

If we assume the proposition that there are racial disparities in police violence (the numbers seem to back that up), then yes, I believe my steps would help reduce that because my steps would reduce police violence in general. No one, regardless of race or sex or otherwise, should be subjected to improper or illegal police violence. If we cut that violence in half, then yes I believe we will have reduced the amount of violence based upon race.

I’m not so certain that’s true, but at least it’s a viable argument.

 

[Slap Shot]

I dont know how they could...Federal Standards supersede the State. They can't just ignore the Supreme Court ruling. If they could then half the South would have ignored Roe outright. (as opposed to their end runs)

Is this how?

Q: May an officer require the driver and passengers to get out of the car, solely for safety reasons and without any individual reasonable suspicion of criminal activity?

A: Yes. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly and unequivocally held that officers may order the driver and any passengers to get out of the car until the traffic stop is over (Maryland v. Wilson, 519 U.S. 408 (1997); Pennsylvania v. Mimms, 434 U.S. 106 (1977) (per curiam)).

However, a handful of states have rejected the Mimms/Wilson rule on state constitutional grounds. For example, see Commonwealth v. Gonsalves (711 N.E.2d 108 (Mass. 1999), rejecting Mimms/Wilson); State v. Caron (586 A.2d 1127 (Vt. 1990), upholding exit order on the basis that police had reasonable suspicion that person stopped was armed and dangerous); and State v. Kim (711 P.2d 1291 (Haw. 1985), rejecting Mimms).

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

If we assume the proposition that there are racial disparities in police violence (the numbers seem to back that up), then yes, I believe my steps would help reduce that because my steps would reduce police violence in general. No one, regardless of race or sex or otherwise, should be subjected to improper or illegal police violence. If we cut that violence in half, then yes I believe we will have reduced the amount of violence based upon race.

Banning people from working in law enforcement if they are fired from one department for excessive force would probably help too.

 

[Handyman]

Commonwealth v. Gonsalves is not really on point as the point at issue seems to be someone in the back seat who was ordered out of the car which lead to finding drugs. State v. Caron they ruled the stop illegal which negated the legality of the search. (plus he was on foot not in a car)