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Cops: No Snarky Nor Positive Title

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Wait, what, we don't vilify teachers?

Well, some of us don't, but the people you support sure do.

So why are you lecturing us about cops?
 
SJHovey said:
I don't think society vilifies teachers, certainly not to the extent that we do with cops.
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Of course you wouldn't. That would mean you'd have critically examine your tribe.

And we all know you aren't gonna do that. Easier just to blame the leftists.
 
rufus said:
Of course you wouldn't. That would mean you'd have critically examine your tribe.

And we all know you aren't gonna do that. Easier just to blame the leftists.
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You're going to have to show me some examples.

I think this Board is an excellent example for my point. We have a specific, dedicated thread with hundreds of posts for the sole purpose to publicly pillory all things cops. Do we have such a thread dedicated to teacher misconduct?
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
6 months? Conservatives have vilified teachers for decades now.
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People have complained about teachers unions and whether they have too much influence over the school, etc... But teachers as a profession, I disagree.

You want to vilify cop unions, have it. I think a fair argument can be made that they have made it too difficult to fire bad cops.
 
SJHovey said:
You're going to have to show me some examples.

I think this Board is an excellent example for my point. We have a specific, dedicated thread with hundreds of posts for the sole purpose to publicly pillory all things cops. Do we have such a thread dedicated to teacher misconduct?
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Why would we? We’re 95% liberal on here for Christ’s sake. If your is point that liberals bash cops more than conservatives, I think you’ll find few who disagree with you on this board.
 
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What has to be done? I think it's relatively straightforward.

I believe that if you have bad cops you fire them. This is tough in light of civil service rules and union contracts, but it has to be made easier for cities to accomplish.

If they commit bad acts, you prosecute them. I'd make it a law in the state that whenever a cop possibly violated a law, it automatically comes under the jurisdiction of the state's attorney general. It doesn't go first to the local prosecutor, who then might assign it to a "friendly" prosecutor from another county to handle. Turn it over to the AG and let them prosecute.

I think I'd get rid of the veteran's preference (what it's referred to here in Minnesota) that applies to job candidates. I have the utmost respect for people who have served in our military, and I'm all in favor of cutting them breaks in terms of public sector jobs, but I think that we could use less former military personnel in our law enforcement.

Finally, I'd stop vilifying a profession for the actions of a segment of that profession. Like teachers and firefighters and many other jobs, we need good people occupying law enforcement positions. People who are smart, who are honest. To do that, you have to pay them, but society also has to hold it out as an honorable job, a job to be proud to do. As a society, we don't do that for cops anymore, which means you are left picking from the bottom of society's barrel in terms of candidates.
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Thanks for cutting through the snark and answering. So, do you think those reforms or actions would significantly cut down on the decades of racial disparities in police violence? As in, do the few bad apples on each police force commit the statistically significant amount of violence against people of color, and by removing them, the numbers will equal out? I can’t say I would necessarily agree, but I suppose it’s possible.
 
Teachers are doing the best they can with what they've been dealt; I'd vilify a superintendent that doesn't know what's going their buildings (plural).

Now, Smith says there’s much more to his story, telling The Daily Wire that his behavior at the June 22 meeting stemmed from an incident weeks earlier at his ninth-grade daughter’s school, Stone Bridge High School in Ashburn, in which he said a boy wearing a skirt entered the girls’ bathroom and assaulted his daughter on May 28.

"We can confirm a May 28, 2021 case that involved a thorough 2-month-long investigation that was conducted to determine the facts of the case prior to arrest," the sheriff’s office told Fox News. "This case is still pending court proceedings. The Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office is not able to provide any documents that pertain to a pending case." The sheriff's office confirmed that the case involved sexual assault.

All juvenile records are sealed, but Smith’s attorney Elizabeth Lancaster told The Daily Wire that the boy was subsequently charged with two counts of forcible sodomy, one count of anal sodomy, and one count of forcible fellatio.

In response to a public records request by The Daily Wire, the Loudoun County Sheriff’s Office confirmed that a May 28 report with "Offense: Forcible Sodomy [and] Sexual Battery" at Stone Bridge High School does exist.

The suspect was arrested two months later following an investigation by the sheriff's office.

Minutes before Smith’s arrest at the June 22 board meeting, Loudoun County Public Schools (LCPS) Superintendent Scott Ziegler declared that "the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist," and that to his knowledge, "we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms," The Daily Wire reported. ...

On Aug. 11, nearly two months after Smith’s arrest, the school board voted to approve its transgender rights policy, which requires teachers to call students by the pronouns they identify with and requires bathroom renovations in order to make them more private.
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Predator transgender student does not exist, oh wise superintendent, but yet the cops have arrested the person?



https://loudounnow.com/2021/10/13/p...eform-in-schools-handling-of-sexual-assaults/

https://wjla.com/news/local/multipl...ublic-comment-at-loudoun-school-board-meeting

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/loudoun-county-father-school-cover-up-bathroom-assault-daughter
 
psych said:
Thanks for cutting through the snark and answering. So, do you think those reforms or actions would significantly cut down on the decades of racial disparities in police violence? As in, do the few bad apples on each police force commit the statistically significant amount of violence against people of color, and by removing them, the numbers will equal out? I can’t say I would necessarily agree, but I suppose it’s possible.
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If we assume the proposition that there are racial disparities in police violence (the numbers seem to back that up), then yes, I believe my steps would help reduce that because my steps would reduce police violence in general. No one, regardless of race or sex or otherwise, should be subjected to improper or illegal police violence. If we cut that violence in half, then yes I believe we will have reduced the amount of violence based upon race.
 
And WJLA, and the local fish wrapper, and (evil) Fox News.


Be upset with the perp and what he's* doing that hurts your cause Thundercat. (I'm willing to bet the perp is more evil opportunist than anything.)


*Used as default as story refers to "boy".
 
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That's MISS Thundercat to you.

And I googled this story for myself. It's only RCP, National Review, FOX, and The Washington Examiner reporting it as a predatory trans student.

Why don't you and Fishy make out in a pit of rabid weasels and stop telling me when and how to be offended?
 
I don't understand why people engage with this guy. People put Jebbers on ignore but not Sic?

At least Jebbers is honest about what he is.
 
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