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Which is what the "person of interest" did in Dallas. I'm betting someone he knows tipped him off that his picture was being plastered all over the news. He found some officers and handed over his weapon.
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Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
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Which is what the "person of interest" did in Dallas. I'm betting someone he knows tipped him off that his picture was being plastered all over the news. He found some officers and handed over his weapon.
Slap Shot
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
I don't think it's realistic to think any gun control restrictions would ever pass that makes it illegal to own weapons already legally purchased/owned.
I think the one rare gun control measure that could pass would be a limit on total sales per annum within each class - which I suppose would be Pistol, Revolver, Rifle, Shotgun, and “Other”?
Who dat?
I don't think it's realistic to think any gun control restrictions would ever pass that makes it illegal to own weapons already legally purchased/owned.
I think the one rare gun control measure that could pass would be a limit on total sales per annum within each class - which I suppose would be Pistol, Revolver, Rifle, Shotgun, and “Other”?
Who dat?
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
So, if one doesn't change, the other shouldn't either? Are you sure you really want to say that?
And Slap: I just saw some links on FB about that take on things. I read that the description included dreadlocks, with some of the locks coming out the back of the hat, wider nose, a little facial hair above the lip/on the chin.
This take may or may not be for real. At first glance, it screams "hoax by cop fanboy."
So, if one doesn't change, the other shouldn't either? Are you sure you really want to say that?
And Slap: I just saw some links on FB about that take on things. I read that the description included dreadlocks, with some of the locks coming out the back of the hat, wider nose, a little facial hair above the lip/on the chin.
This take may or may not be for real. At first glance, it screams "hoax by cop fanboy."
bigblue_dl
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
Apparently JJ isn't. His reasoning is so flawed it is sickening, and actually insulting to african americans, IMO.
Apparently JJ isn't. His reasoning is so flawed it is sickening, and actually insulting to african americans, IMO.
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
Hard to say. Assault Ban of 2015 has a third of the house as co signers and such a ban has 57% of public support. Seven states and the district already have bans on said weapons.
Hard to say. Assault Ban of 2015 has a third of the house as co signers and such a ban has 57% of public support. Seven states and the district already have bans on said weapons.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
And your mountain of white privilege is so high you might as well be yodeling.
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
So for gun supporters, Brent, whoever.
Say you live in a dangerous part of town (no. Minneapolis) and you have gangs of younger guys ranging around outside of your house you know have guns. This is a daily occurance because its legal. And the government is totally cool with this set up. Don't you think you'd be kind of upset about the status quo and the fact that the government does absolutely nothing to manage the problem and frankly has no interest in that? Remember gangs with guns outside your house with your children around happens 24 hours a day.
Does that anger seem unreasonable at all?
So for gun supporters, Brent, whoever.
Say you live in a dangerous part of town (no. Minneapolis) and you have gangs of younger guys ranging around outside of your house you know have guns. This is a daily occurance because its legal. And the government is totally cool with this set up. Don't you think you'd be kind of upset about the status quo and the fact that the government does absolutely nothing to manage the problem and frankly has no interest in that? Remember gangs with guns outside your house with your children around happens 24 hours a day.
Does that anger seem unreasonable at all?
bigblue_dl
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
False. Deal with it. You're absolutely wrong.
False. Deal with it. You're absolutely wrong.
bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
And none of these gang bangers have a prior record that precludes them from owning a gun? I call BS on that.
And none of these gang bangers have a prior record that precludes them from owning a gun? I call BS on that.
trixR4kids
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
Even if it's just some of them his point still stands.
Even if it's just some of them his point still stands.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
Either come up with some points to counter my arguments or quit responding.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
The cop fanboy sites are putting all sorts of stuff out there like how the victim was in the Crips and had a criminal record...which of course is false since the guy had a conceal/carry but twists the story enough to poison the public view of the incident. This is step one, they will do everything possible to impeach the victim. The cop has already said he shot him cause he feared he was reaching for a gun...there is almost a zero chance this cop gets punished beyond losing his job.
I see ther NRA put out a full statement about the Dallas shootings...still nothing (outside of the empty platitude of "wait til we hear more" ) about the MN shooting...gee I wonder why that is.
The cop fanboy sites are putting all sorts of stuff out there like how the victim was in the Crips and had a criminal record...which of course is false since the guy had a conceal/carry but twists the story enough to poison the public view of the incident. This is step one, they will do everything possible to impeach the victim. The cop has already said he shot him cause he feared he was reaching for a gun...there is almost a zero chance this cop gets punished beyond losing his job.
I see ther NRA put out a full statement about the Dallas shootings...still nothing (outside of the empty platitude of "wait til we hear more" ) about the MN shooting...gee I wonder why that is.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
This what I'm talking about. The blue wall is already closed up and defending this guy through any means necessary. And this happens every time! There's plenty of officers out there who know this is wrong but will do nothing publicly to stop it. And that builds the perception that a police officer can do anything and not be punished, that leads to anger and frustration in people, and anger and frustration leads to stupid, irrational decisions like shooting police officers.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
Remember that part of that is also the union not allowing cops to speak out. It is a huge no no.
Remember that part of that is also the union not allowing cops to speak out. It is a huge no no.
Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
I have to bring this up. You are not totally wrong, BUT, not snitching goes back further than that: Omerta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omertà
I have to bring this up. You are not totally wrong, BUT, not snitching goes back further than that: Omerta.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omertà
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
I don't really get the point of this story. I mean I get that it tries to paint a picture that police officers sometimes have to make split second decisions, and some of those decisions have life or death consequences. But to illustrate how easy it supposedly is to make the WRONG decision and either die or kill an unarmed person, let's take two people who don't do this, haven't been trained to do this, and know that at the end of the day passing or failing this test means nothing permanent. It's a ridiculous scenario.
I've had jobs and performed volunteer community service where had I had no training and just been thrown out there I could easily have been seriously injured or killed, or seriously injured or killed another person. They didn't let me out there until I was trained and could prove to someone who had taken on the responsibility to measure my ability to perform the requisite tasks said I was ready to go.
Police officers are trained in use of force scenarios. Thorough training includes many different scenarios, from potential danger during a traffic stop, to a domestic incident, to hostage situations, to things like we see in the video where not a lot of information is known and things can change rapidly. Good police officers take this training seriously and good police departments refresh the training. Through training they should be able to function in a way where fear is not the first or primary emotion that dictates their response.
The two civilians in this video cannot be expected to perform anywhere near as competently as we must demand our police officers to do. I'm sorry but this video really should not have told a thinking person anything they did not already know.
I don't really get the point of this story. I mean I get that it tries to paint a picture that police officers sometimes have to make split second decisions, and some of those decisions have life or death consequences. But to illustrate how easy it supposedly is to make the WRONG decision and either die or kill an unarmed person, let's take two people who don't do this, haven't been trained to do this, and know that at the end of the day passing or failing this test means nothing permanent. It's a ridiculous scenario.
I've had jobs and performed volunteer community service where had I had no training and just been thrown out there I could easily have been seriously injured or killed, or seriously injured or killed another person. They didn't let me out there until I was trained and could prove to someone who had taken on the responsibility to measure my ability to perform the requisite tasks said I was ready to go.
Police officers are trained in use of force scenarios. Thorough training includes many different scenarios, from potential danger during a traffic stop, to a domestic incident, to hostage situations, to things like we see in the video where not a lot of information is known and things can change rapidly. Good police officers take this training seriously and good police departments refresh the training. Through training they should be able to function in a way where fear is not the first or primary emotion that dictates their response.
The two civilians in this video cannot be expected to perform anywhere near as competently as we must demand our police officers to do. I'm sorry but this video really should not have told a thinking person anything they did not already know.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
And as pro-union as I am, I don't like that. That is, at least in my opinion, very wrong. As a union your members should not only be allowed to speak truthfully and freely but it should be encouraged.
Jimjamesak
Already insane, UAA making it worse
And Omertà comes from the exact same kind of background that "don't snitch!" comes from. Poor, little education, and severe lack of opportunity. Why should I help the authorities with the mafioso when the authorities never help me and the mafioso does? Why should I help a cop when all they do is break down our doors or pull us over or lock up my friends and family?
WeAreNDHockey
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Re: Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!
To compare the FOP (and most police unions whether FOP-affiliated or not) to unions in general(no matter your opinion of labor unions) is like comparing the hockey I play to the hockey that Jonathan Toews plays. You might be able to say we're both playing hockey but we are not playing the same game by any stretch.
To compare the FOP (and most police unions whether FOP-affiliated or not) to unions in general(no matter your opinion of labor unions) is like comparing the hockey I play to the hockey that Jonathan Toews plays. You might be able to say we're both playing hockey but we are not playing the same game by any stretch.
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