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Cops 3: Shoot low boys -- they're ridin' Shetland ponies!

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“We’re asking cops to do too much in this country” said Brown.

“Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve” said Brown. He listed mental health, drug addiction, loose dogs, failing schools as problems the public expects ‘cops to solve.’

“Seventy percent of the African American community is being raised by single women, let’s give it to the cops to solve that as well” said Brown. “Policing was never meant to solve all those problems.”
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-- Dallas Police Chief David Brown
 
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The Sicatoka said:
-- Dallas Police Chief David Brown
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Considering every little thing has about 200 pages worth of regulation each that needs to be enforced because some elected wacko placed in some pork clause because he was more worried about keeping his job than doing his job, it's not all that surprising they would think this way. Not to mention how terrorism, not policing, is used as actual expected budget, meaning they have quotas to meet, it's not surprising we see what is happening today.
 
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From Betsy Carter by Lazlo Zalezac

Detective Roberts said, "You don't need a huge police force. A hundred police officers is sufficient."

"What do you mean? We've got a million people on this island," the Governor said.

"You don't need police to write speeding tickets! People don't see that as enforcing the law or protecting them from harm. They see it as collecting revenue. Everyone knows that cops have quotas. You want to enforce speed limits in school zones? Put up cameras.

"Furthermore, it is a waste of resources to have police driving around aimlessly as a deterrent to crime. You need police to have a local presence and to take care of crime. We need a group of people authorized to make arrests, and to get the bad guys off the streets. If the bad guys are locked away, then they won't be in a position to perform more crimes."

The Governor interrupted, "There's more to it than that."

"Look, when I was a patrolman, we'd get a disturbing the peace call because a bunch of kids were having party and making too much noise. Big ****ing deal. We'd show up with three patrol cars. It would take six police officers to tell the kids to be quiet. More often than not, we'd end up locking up a bunch of them for drinking beer. Now, I've got to ask you – did you ever drink a beer when you were a teenager?"

"Yes."

"Right. It happens. Why involve the police in stupid things like that?"

"It's illegal for individuals under twenty-one to drink."

Detective Roberts said, "That's your problem, right there! You aren't having police protecting the public from crime, you are having police do the jobs that parents are supposed to do. If parents aren't keeping their kids from drinking and the kids suffer, well ... too bad. There's a whole bunch of people already involved, and you don't need the government to add more people to the mix. Drop the minimum drinking age, entirely. If the kids are driving lock them up for DUI, which is a crime because it endangers the public.

"Get the hell out of the business of enforcing morality laws. Make prostitution legal, and have it fall under the jurisdiction of the department of health. It's a health issue, not a legal issue. You'll free up a dozen policemen, each shift.

"The real problems are murder, rape, robbery, destruction of property, and injurious assault. The rest of the garbage is just that: garbage. Don't bog the police down with make-work. Have us protect the public. The rest can take care of itself, for now."

"I'm not sure that I agree with you. We have an obligation to protect the people from themselves," the Governor said.

"Our primary obligation is to protect good people from bad people. A kid breaks a window and a cop is called. That's a waste since most of the time the perpetrator is not really a bad person, but a stupid kid who did something dumb. The parents should have been called."

"That's destruction of property," the Governor said.

"That's right, and before the collapse the kid would get charged with destruction of property. He'd go in in front of judge, who was liable to fine the kid's parents a hundred bucks and shake his finger at the kid, while delivering a stern lecture that went in one ear and out the other. That hundred dollar fine didn't even pay for the cost of having a policeman respond to the call, much less the cost of going to court. Furthermore, the person with the broken window got nothing, and his insurance has to pay for the damages. That whole cycle wasn't working and represents a drain on resources. It can all be handled at a personal level, or in civil courts, rather than the criminal courts. It doesn't require the involvement of a policeman."

"I'm sorry. I have to disagree with you on that."

"It's a petty crime! Are we going to waste resources on misdemeanors, or are we going to focus our resources on felonies?"

"We've got to deal with both."

"We can't! We were wasting our time writing traffic tickets, writing reports that go nowhere, and managing crowds. We were pursuing some idiot for ten dollars worth of damages, while a woman was getting raped, down the street. We have to focus on the dangerous criminals!"

Colonel Stewart said, "He's right. If we arrest only real criminals, then the court system will not have so many cases. We can get speedier trials. Our prisons won't have so many people in them. Hell, you'll even be able to reform the prison system so it isn't a breeding ground for even worse criminals."

"There are a small number of people who are responsible for the majority of real crimes. Let the police deal with them, and not serve as nannies to the population as a whole," Detective Roberts said.

It irritated him just to think about how much time was wasted while he was a patrolman.

He added, "You also don't need cops showing up on ambulance calls. I mean, if you want statements from folks, then have the ambulance folks take the statements. Unless they determine a crime has taken place, there's no need to involve the police. I don't know how many times I went on a call where some fat ******* had called an ambulance just to get ride to the hospital because he didn't have a car and was too cheap to call a taxi."
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Jimjamesak said:
"Can't fix that. Socialism. Here's some surplus military equipment to make you feel better."
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Dallas Chief is spot on and so is the above comment. This is a failure of government and by proxy, society. If these inner city blight conditions suddenly existed in Delano, due to politics they'd be solved over night. But as M Bachmann said the only societal issue that required attention was roads.
 
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Kepler said:
We have broken up some tribes. I doubt there are many places in the US any more where Italians and Irish and Germans and English descendants abstract themselves out as a tribe or identify the others as rival tribes. Yet those used to be enormously important parts of individual and group psyche.
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Been to a bar during the soccer world cup?
 
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mookie1995 said:
By a dude who was NOT a cop.

Keeee-rist almighty!!!
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Yes, but BLM isn't just about cops shooting black people. It's about black people's lives being seen as a disposable commodity by the broader society. BLM was not just motivated by incidents like Freddie Gray and Michael Brown and Eric Garner. Yes, reform of policing is important, but it's one front in the larger war against systemic racism.

I am blown away by the attitude of some posters here that black people are somehow "whining" about that. What if your kids were at risk every day and nobody gave a sh-t? I guess I understand if it's a bunch of people living in rural Minnesota who only see blacks on their Fox News nightly broadcast. They don't know any better. But that certainly isn't everybody who has been saying the equivalent of "move on" to these incidents.

The Tea Party and their ilk just had a 6-year crying jag over their paranoia about feds busting down their doors and murdering them, and everybody sagely nodded and said "yes, that's what happens with gubmint run amok." And all that was BS. With these people, it's actually happening. Good God, you would think all that outrage would jump at the chance to actually be relevant. But instead it's "meh, they deserved it. Get out of the way I'm commuting."

Okham's razor suggests the reason why.
 
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Then BLM should be hanging out in Chicago to allow YBM to live is safety daily

BLM should be preaching nuclear families and stop this crazy notion that single mothers with 5 kids from 5 different men place these children in a healthy environment

F phing aye already

Let's at least turn back the clock to Good Times!!!
 
5mn_Major said:
Dallas Chief is spot on and so is the above comment. This is a failure of government and by proxy, society. If these inner city blight conditions suddenly existed in Delano, due to politics they'd be solved over night. But as M Bachmann said the only societal issue that required attention was roads.
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I know I was definitely responding in a snarky manner but that was the point of it. People don't actually want to solve those issues because a) it costs money and b) it (predominantly) helps poor black people. It's far easier to force the police to deal with it, and keep them happy with new toys, than to actually address the issues.
 
mookie1995 said:
Then BLM should be hanging out in Chicago to allow YBM to live is safety daily

BLM should be preaching nuclear families and stop this crazy notion that single mothers with 5 kids from 5 different men place these children in a healthy environment

F phing aye already

Let's at least turn back the clock to Good Times!!!
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And yet people continue to believe racism is dead...
 
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Certainly. Today's sissified nanny state has cops responding to stuff like this. Or arresting parents who let their kids walk two blocks home from school unsupervised.

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20160710_Collingswood_police_questioned_schoolkids_about_brownies__name-calling__a_zombie_drawing.html

At Zane North Elementary School, police on June 6 questioned a student who had made a gun noise and held his wooden ukulele "like a gun" during music class. The student told police he "was only kidding." Other cases at Zane involved the kindergarten fight, in which a student said a classmate had hit him, and two students trading insults like "fat" and "short" in the cafeteria.
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Why are school officials or parents even calling cops over stuff like this? Cause they';re too spineless to settle things like this themselves.
 
Kepler said:
Yes, but BLM isn't just about cops shooting black people. It's about black people's lives being seen as a disposable commodity by the broader society. BLM was not just motivated by incidents like Freddie Gray and Michael Brown and Eric Garner. Yes, reform of policing is important, but it's one front in the larger war against systemic racism.

I am blown away by the attitude of some posters here that black people are somehow "whining" about that. What if your kids were at risk every day and nobody gave a sh-t? I guess I understand if it's a bunch of people living in rural Minnesota who only see blacks on their Fox News nightly broadcast. They don't know any better. But that certainly isn't everybody who has been saying the equivalent of "move on" to these incidents.

The Tea Party and their ilk just had a 6-year crying jag over their paranoia about feds busting down their doors and murdering them, and everybody sagely nodded and said "yes, that's what happens with gubmint run amok." And all that was BS. With these people, it's actually happening. Good God, you would think all that outrage would jump at the chance to actually be relevant. But instead it's "meh, they deserved it. Get out of the way I'm commuting."

Okham's razor suggests the reason why.
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You can't force empathy on those who refuse to gain another perspective.
 
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rufus said:
Certainly. Today's sissified nanny state has cops responding to stuff like this. Or arresting parents who let their kids walk two blocks home from school unsupervised.

http://www.philly.com/philly/education/20160710_Collingswood_police_questioned_schoolkids_about_brownies__name-calling__a_zombie_drawing.html



Why are school officials or parents even calling cops over stuff like this? Cause they';re too spineless to settle things like this themselves.
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Perhaps because, with all of those shootings and put-downs with kids coming home from school crying, they wanted zero tolerance policies. Well, they have them, and everything that goes with them, such as these sorts of things.
 
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Jimjamesak said:
And yet people continue to believe racism is dead...
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If what Kepler says is true in that BLM is about wanting more respect for black people's lives, why is it racist to suggest they focus on educating other blacks on the importance of that?
 
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Kepler said:
Yes, but BLM isn't just about cops shooting black people. It's about black people's lives being seen as a disposable commodity by the broader society. BLM was not just motivated by incidents like Freddie Gray and Michael Brown and Eric Garner. Yes, reform of policing is important, but it's one front in the larger war against systemic racism.

I am blown away by the attitude of some posters here that black people are somehow "whining" about that. What if your kids were at risk every day and nobody gave a sh-t? I guess I understand if it's a bunch of people living in rural Minnesota who only see blacks on their Fox News nightly broadcast. They don't know any better. But that certainly isn't everybody who has been saying the equivalent of "move on" to these incidents.

The Tea Party and their ilk just had a 6-year crying jag over their paranoia about feds busting down their doors and murdering them, and everybody sagely nodded and said "yes, that's what happens with gubmint run amok." And all that was BS. With these people, it's actually happening. Good God, you would think all that outrage would jump at the chance to actually be relevant. But instead it's "meh, they deserved it. Get out of the way I'm commuting."

Okham's razor suggests the reason why.
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If you're going to preach all this "community organization", how about making your community a better place? How about creating a strong community that can redress grievances? Seems like what these groups want to do is burn and pillage cities, like what happened in St. Louis and Baltimore. In addition, there is plenty of brutality that happens every day that truly is colour blind. Why not bring attention to that? Are you truly so obsessed over the racism narrative because maybe you need to try to have people either be controlled, or make them feel like they are being controlled? If anything, you are the one that is the racist, looking to hype a separation of colours.
 
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mookie1995 said:
Jesse and Al keep picking fights that rile people up instead of really helping Mookie and his brothers.

That's the real atrocity us colored folks be living with every day
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What do you expect? They made careers that revolve around the civil rights movements of the 60's. They don't know how to do anything else. They need to stay relevant so they're able to feed their families (assuming they have families).
 
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