Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

[dxmnkd316]

Oh good grief. If you refuse to read the documents how can you possibly assert knowledge?

description of CD 971 is: "Anonymous telephone calls to U.S. Embassy in Canberra Australia relative to planned assassination of President Kennedy.

CD is Commission Document 971 as in Warren a commission and the agency is steadfast that it remain redacted. The reason is the phone calls about the assassination occurred BEFORE the assassination happened.

For the same reason I wouldn't go to a nazi bar.

 

[Jimjamesak]

Note that it is extremely difficult to impossible for humans to tell the difference between sounds coming from in front of them and behind them. If you add height it gets worse.

Not to mention being in an urban environment.

 

[mookie1995]

Those echos are bouncing all over the place

 

[ScoobyDoo]

Seems the number on thing that came out was unredacted names, birthdates, and social security numbers of actual alive people.

Apparently releasing that information is illegal.

 

[solovsfett]

So the smoking gun is a memo from 1996 that discusses that someone may write a story that someone who worked with Oswald 40 years earlier thinks the CIA may have recruited him? Well now all of the pieces are falling into place.

You’ve got to read. You can’t just accept whatever news source you rely on because THEY DO NOT read the evidence. They haven’t read the 888-page Warren report, haven’t read the 26 volumes of hearings and testimony and have NOT read the reports, footnotes or final findings of the Pike Committee, Rockefeller Commission, Church Committee, House Select Committee on Assassinations or Assassinations Records Review Board.

The document I referenced requires context and discernment. The CIA is saying “what? No! We didn’t recruit Oswald at Atsugi!”

However, they have files within counterintelligence (office of security) that prove he was working for them and was a witting false defector.

Without reading and analyzing the documents on your own you will never know what happened.

In a nutshell, JFK was a “peace at all costs” president. Up thread I provided numerous instances of his peace efforts/actions. The only way his enemies like Allen Dulles, Curtis LeMay, Richard Helms, James Angleton, Calvin Galloway could stop his peace actions was to kill him. It was their only option because he refused to back down.

 

[solovsfett]

Note that it is extremely difficult to impossible for humans to tell the difference between sounds coming from in front of them and behind them. If you add height it gets worse.

That’s not true at all.

of 121 witnesses from dealey plaza who were asked where the shots came from
32 - I don’t know
38 - TSBD
51 - out front
This is in the Warren Commission.

Of 21 cops and sheriffs deputies asked whether they could ascertain the origin of the shots gets this:
1 - I don’t know
4 - TSBD
16 - out front

And that is also from Warren Commission testimony

The plaza is very small, recognizing where a shot comes from is not as difficult as Arlen Specter and Allen Dulles wanted people to believe

 

[MissThundercat]

"Context and discernment" sounds like "if you connect the dots the way I want you to, you'll see a unicorn!"

 

[solovsfett]

"Context and discernment" sounds like "if you connect the dots the way I want you to, you'll see a unicorn!"

Seriously? Context means you need to read ALL of the evidence. Without context you cannot understand the event and WHY it happened.

Discernment means you weed out all of which has not been proven based on all of the provable demonstrable evidence you just read and viewed from actual federal investigations.

This is not difficult. VERY time consuming but not difficult.

When you read the findings of all of the investigations you find the official story is 100% fiction.

To be honest to hear people smugly dismissing evidence they’ve never read is incredibly revealing.

 

[solovsfett]

"Context and discernment" sounds like "if you connect the dots the way I want you to, you'll see a unicorn!"

Also, if I came across as rude or snarky I don’t mean to.

I’m frustrated people see a headline and run with it as fact. the Warren Commission said 1 man, 3 shots in 5.8 seconds, committed communist, case closed. The 26 volumes of hearings and testimony released 2 months later render the report obsolete and false.

The HSCA said there were 4 shots yet concluded it was LHO, despite their admission of a 4th shot. Read the underlying reports and you find the entirety of the evidence they apprehended and absorbed and the overwhelming majority of witness statements under oath (including CIA officers who perjured themselves to hell and back) contradicted the final report.

The Church committee findings led (at least) two senators to conclude the CIA had a hand in bringing about JFK’s death.

Yet I post a link to a clip on YouTube of FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS discussing their findings and suddenly everyone is afraid of YouTube? One cannot claim to know what happened without reading the evidence unearthed by the multiple federal
Investigations and without listening to what they had to say after their time on the committee’s. Let alone reading the mountain range of documents releasesd.

I don’t understand. Is it fear of the truth?

And most people use the term conspiracy theory without knowledge of where that term originates or was weaponized to be more accurate. CIA document 1035-960.
Read that text. Read who signed it and when. What was happening at that time where they needed to ensure the CT word became a weapon used as a pejorative?

 

[Kepler]

The CIA assassinated JFK, obviously.

Every scintilla of evidence was erased decades ago, obviously.

Either you accept it or you don't. Nobody is going to change their opinion and it no longer matters given Actual Nazis run our government RIGHT NOW.

1963 has the same relevance to people facing a Nazi takeover as 1066. retire the thread, it's escapist masturbation in the face of current events.

 

[solovsfett]

"Context and discernment" sounds like "if you connect the dots the way I want you to, you'll see a unicorn!"

Also, if I came across as rude or snarky I don’t mean to.

I’m frustrated people see a headline and run with it as fact. the Warren Commission said 1 man, 3 shots in 5.8 seconds, committed communist, case closed. The 26 volumes of hearings and testimony released 2 months later render the report obsolete and false.

The HSCA said there were 4 shots yet concluded it was LHO, despite their admission of a 4th shot. Read the underlying reports and you find the entirety of the evidence they apprehended and absorbed and the overwhelming majority of witness statements under oath (including CIA officers who perjured themselves to hell and back) contradicted the final report.

The Church committee findings led (at least) two senators to conclude the CIA had a hand in bringing about JFK’s death.

Yet I post a link to a clip on YouTube of FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS discussing their findings and suddenly everyone is afraid of YouTube?

I don’t understand. Is it fear of the truth?

And most people use the term conspiracy theory without knowledge of where it was originated and why. Read CIA document 1035-960. Then look who signed it and note the date. What was happening at that time that caused CIa to panic and weaponize this term?

 

[solovsfett]

The CIA assassinated JFK, obviously.

Every scintilla of evidence was erased decades ago, obviously.

Either you accept it or you don't. Nobody is going to change their opinion and it no longer matters given Actual Nazis run our government RIGHT NOW.

1963 has the same relevance to people facing a Nazi takeover as 1066. retire the thread, it's escapist masturbation in the face of current events.

 

[solovsfett]

I agree people working for and with CIA killed Jack. That’s where all the evidence leads.

However, where I disagree is that it’s not relevant today. In my view Dallas, Audubon Ballroom, Lorraine Motel, Ambassador Hotel, all of those state murders are more relevant than ever because of WHY JACK, Malcolm, Martin and Bobby were murdered. Why they were killed is why it matters. The intel agency with assistance from pentagon had Jack killed for his peace efforts with USSR and Cuba. His withdrawal plans for Vietnam. His peace efforts and assistance for Africa, Latin America, Middle Wast and Asia. He (and Malcolm, Martin and Bobby) fought the CIA, Pentagon and Wall Street at every step knowing it could cost him his life and he pursued that path regardless. As did Malcolm, Martin and Bobby.

Subsequent to that every president has been a factotum of the system. Everyone in the beltway KNOWS why Jack et all were killed and they know what lines they cannot cross with CIA, Pentagon and Wall Street.

As a result our country is run by ungovernable, unaccountable ghouls in all 3 of CIA, Pentagon and Wall Street and there’s not ONE person in either party willing to fight them. No-one calling for peace and Justice like the big four. But not just calling for it acting to achieve it. No-one comes close. Because everyone knows what happens when you cross those lines.

We reap what we sow. Because we failed to pursue Justice for Jack, Malcolm, Martin and Bobby, our country was stolen from us. And the successors of their murderers run the show and mock the public every chance they get.

That’s why no matter who is at 1600 Pennsylvania subsequent to Jack they ALL vote for war or proxy wars.

That’s my take.

 

[busterman62]

Either you accept it or you don't. Nobody is going to change their opinion

Transpose these statements and you have summed up the entire thread

 

[Slap Shot]

Adding NCAA tournament hockey reffing.

 

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

Indiana jones was accurate????

Im not linking to ny post but that’s who ran this

“The CIA claimed to have confirmed the existence of the Ark of the Covenant by way of remote viewing — aka extra sensory perception or ESP — alleging the mysterious and sacred object is guarded by “entities” with an “unknown” power, a recently resurfaced declassified document claims.”

 

[solovsfett]

Indiana jones was accurate????

Im not linking to ny post but that’s who ran this

“The CIA claimed to have confirmed the existence of the Ark of the Covenant by way of remote viewing — aka extra sensory perception or ESP — alleging the mysterious and sacred object is guarded by “entities” with an “unknown” power, a recently resurfaced declassified document claims.”

The CIA loves disinformation as a tool to distract. UFOs, remote viewing, and other bs they promote to keep people distracted from what they’re really doing/have done.