Conspiracy Theories: JFK, RFK, and Stevie Wonder Can See!

[solovsfett]

I just take it on faith that JFK, RFK, Malcolm, and Martin were political murders. They were each threats to the rightwing establishment so they used 2nd Amendment remedies. That's what the Right does when it senses a threat, as its only considerations are self interest and power. The Right are Machiavellians.

So. Granted. But 60 years ago does not matter in the face of a real fascist coup taking place right now. And historical analysis is wasted effort in the face of actual Nazis murdering people right now.

I hear you. But where is the left? They’ve been pushed right since these murders. There is a lot of historical evidence (fastidiously documented by good researchers) to show how that happened…I mean the left actually likes and agrees with Liz Cheney, Dick Cheney and George W. bush now? They love the CIA (cheering Jack Ryan) and FBI when historically in the 60’s and 70’s they wanted them dismantled? They laugh when Hillary said “we came, we saw, he died”? That says everytging we need.

It’s not a Trump problem imo. It’s a “we lost our god damned democracy problem 61 years ago” and every president subsequent to that time have been factotums of the system. Pre-approved by the palpatines (and successors) who killed Jack.

 

[FadeToBlack&Gold]

Umm, Hillary said that about Mummar Gaddafi. A brutal megalomaniac, human rights violator, and probable state sponsor of terrorism.

Hugo Chavez was a more recent nutjob of a similar vein (nationalize Big Oil/redistribute the wealth), but at least he didn't encourage & help fund the bombing of any civilian aircraft.

And no, the left doesn't suddenly agree with or like the Cheneys and Bushes. They're just useful idiots capable of recognizing that Dump is a threat to a goal we share - continued American dominance, influence, and respect on the international stage.

 

[solovsfett]

C’mon. You’re going to tell me Ghaddafi was a terrorist while he was attempting to organize a United States of Africa (and yeah, he wasn’t a humanitarian) yet do you have anything to say about Vietnam _and the 2+ million Cambodians, Laotians and Vietnamese we killed? How about the 1 million Iraqi’s we killed? What does that make us?

And Chavez? A nut job? Why? Because he wanted his people to have good lives? Because he was anti-wall street?

There are dozens and dozens of meticulously researched and fastidiously footnoted and annotated books describing U.S. imperialism and the affects and aftermath in Southeast Asia, Africa, Latin America . We can’t act like we’re white hats here.

Umm, Hillary said that about Mummar Gaddafi. A brutal megalomaniac, human rights violator, and probable state sponsor of terrorism.

Hugo Chavez was a more recent nutjob of a similar vein (nationalize Big Oil/redistribute the wealth), but at least he didn't encourage & help fund the bombing of any civilian aircraft.

And no, the left doesn't suddenly agree with or like the Cheneys and Bushes. They're just useful idiots capable of recognizing that Dump is a threat to a goal we share - continued American dominance, influence, and respect on the international stage

 

[Russell Jaslow]

Not a great analogy considering Stalin knew.

Didn’t we tell Stalin?

 

[Jimjamesak]

Didn’t we tell Stalin?

He already knew when they did. The KGB and it's predecessors were quite effective.

 

[LynahFan]

Didn’t we tell Stalin?

Didn’t have to - there were several moles within the project. They naturally had to draw their talent from the Academy, and there were a great many of them who were communist party members or were at least fellow travellers. Oppenheimer himself had many connections with known communists and lost his security clearance because of it after the war.