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College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
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bigblue_dl
Armed
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
But the remaining schools in the conference like Baylor, Texas Tech and Iowa State will be better off because they will be in a conference with schools that are more on their level.
cF[Authentic]
southpaw
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Baylor, Tech and Iowa State will have a chance to win the Big 12 and make it to a BCS game, bringing more money and prestige to the school. Or they could forever be the bottom of the barrel for the Big 12 and just be completely ok with never actually winning anything. I'd rather have my team actually be competitive, instead of winning three games a year (are we talking about football or Tech hockey?) Who cares if Texas comes to town every other year. Is seeing the Texas 3rd stringers by half-time that great? Or is beating Texas once in 15 years really that awesome?
Apparently, after decades of losing fans just become ok with losing. The point is to win the games consistently, not get a win or two a year versus the big schools.
Baylor, Tech and Iowa State will have a chance to win the Big 12 and make it to a BCS game, bringing more money and prestige to the school. Or they could forever be the bottom of the barrel for the Big 12 and just be completely ok with never actually winning anything. I'd rather have my team actually be competitive, instead of winning three games a year (are we talking about football or Tech hockey?) Who cares if Texas comes to town every other year. Is seeing the Texas 3rd stringers by half-time that great? Or is beating Texas once in 15 years really that awesome?
Apparently, after decades of losing fans just become ok with losing. The point is to win the games consistently, not get a win or two a year versus the big schools.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
The rumor I've heard is that they're also looking at Oklahoma State and Missouri as well to run off with to form a 16 team SEC. But my thoughts there is that Missouri is kinda there to see if they can't scare Texas into joining the SEC. Missouri tried like hell to get into the Big Ten, and I would think they wouldn't mind the SEC that much either. The Tigers don't really give a **** about Iowa State, and well, I'm sure they could likely arrange a yearly rivalry game with Kansas. That's about the only team in the Big XII I think they really care to see. Texas blinks and goes to the Dark Side, Missouri is out on an island again, and is going to be wishing that the Big 10 start talking about adding more schools.
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Exactly why wouldn't Texas review the PAC-12 offer in the case of Texas A&M or anyone else leaving? They pick one other team and head west. Crisis for them averted. Rest of conference dies on the vine just like last summer.
Exactly why wouldn't Texas review the PAC-12 offer in the case of Texas A&M or anyone else leaving? They pick one other team and head west. Crisis for them averted. Rest of conference dies on the vine just like last summer.
Eh, Texas probaly grabs Texas Tech and goes to the PAC if those teams go to the SEC. It would just be that Texas isn't going to be in any position to cut a special deal with the PAC Network to let em keep their own separate network.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Now that the Pac is at 12, I'm not sure how a Texas to the Pac scenario would work out, unless four teams were added, but I'm not sure who those teams would be. Here in Arizona, I'm not excited about any possibility of adding a bunch of Big 12 teams to the conference, meaning ASU would get stuck with them in their division. Blech.
Now that the Pac is at 12, I'm not sure how a Texas to the Pac scenario would work out, unless four teams were added, but I'm not sure who those teams would be. Here in Arizona, I'm not excited about any possibility of adding a bunch of Big 12 teams to the conference, meaning ASU would get stuck with them in their division. Blech.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
The options are indeed now somewhat more limited. If we're going to have sixteen team superconferences, the way it shakes out will have a considerable amount to do with who gets to the Big XII, and then the Big East, first.
The Big XII-2 is obviously the Ottoman Empire of college football at this point. Texas, A&M and Oklahoma are the most valuable of the 10 members, and the Big Whatever, SEC, and Pac-12 all have potential to try and grab them, and I've listed them in ascending order of need.
The Big Whatever would love to have Texas onboard, and Mizzou would be a good get, but the conference also has options to the East. The prize catch would be Notre Dame, but we know at this point the only thing that would potentially cause them to reevaluate independence, apart from being locked out of the BCS, is if the Big East (i.e. the home they prize for their non-football sports) were to suddenly stop existing.
The SEC also has options in the east (WVU is a possibility, as would anyone from the ACC), but if they're going to go for 16, it's likely to be new markets that will drive them. They want into Texas and Oklahoma for that reason, and A&M and OU would be fits for the SEC. They don't necessarily need more than those two, though, and a potential move to 16 might include a mix from the east and west.
The Pac-12, however, needs them most of all in any race to 16; their relative geographic isolation both helps them in that its core membership is essentially secure from poaching, but that isolation also means that future partners will either need to come from further and further east, or be combed from the Mountain West. The Pac-12 wants to get Big XII-2 teams to avoid having to fill the numbers with teams like UNLV or Hawaii. If the Big XII-2 looks to be getting ripped apart, they're on the phone with Texas in a nanosecond. They probably have to take Tech along with them, but they'll do whatever they can, IMO, to avoid having to bring Baylor along too. If that means feasting on duplicate market options (BYU, in spite of a religious objection, and Air Force are the Top 2 of the western leftovers, I feel), they'll do it. UNLV is an option, though likely a very unpalatable one. If the shakedown looks to be BYU, Air Force, Texas and Texas Tech, they can plausibly do a North/South split rather than East/West (dividing the old Pac-Ten mostly evenly, and not forcing the Arizonas to be partnered with all of the newbies), with Washington/Oregon/Colorado/Utah partners in the North, and Bay Area/Los Angeles/Arizona/Texas partners in the South (with 2 crossover games engineered to give access to Texas and/or California trips yearly to the Northern football teams).
The options are indeed now somewhat more limited. If we're going to have sixteen team superconferences, the way it shakes out will have a considerable amount to do with who gets to the Big XII, and then the Big East, first.
The Big XII-2 is obviously the Ottoman Empire of college football at this point. Texas, A&M and Oklahoma are the most valuable of the 10 members, and the Big Whatever, SEC, and Pac-12 all have potential to try and grab them, and I've listed them in ascending order of need.
The Big Whatever would love to have Texas onboard, and Mizzou would be a good get, but the conference also has options to the East. The prize catch would be Notre Dame, but we know at this point the only thing that would potentially cause them to reevaluate independence, apart from being locked out of the BCS, is if the Big East (i.e. the home they prize for their non-football sports) were to suddenly stop existing.
The SEC also has options in the east (WVU is a possibility, as would anyone from the ACC), but if they're going to go for 16, it's likely to be new markets that will drive them. They want into Texas and Oklahoma for that reason, and A&M and OU would be fits for the SEC. They don't necessarily need more than those two, though, and a potential move to 16 might include a mix from the east and west.
The Pac-12, however, needs them most of all in any race to 16; their relative geographic isolation both helps them in that its core membership is essentially secure from poaching, but that isolation also means that future partners will either need to come from further and further east, or be combed from the Mountain West. The Pac-12 wants to get Big XII-2 teams to avoid having to fill the numbers with teams like UNLV or Hawaii. If the Big XII-2 looks to be getting ripped apart, they're on the phone with Texas in a nanosecond. They probably have to take Tech along with them, but they'll do whatever they can, IMO, to avoid having to bring Baylor along too. If that means feasting on duplicate market options (BYU, in spite of a religious objection, and Air Force are the Top 2 of the western leftovers, I feel), they'll do it. UNLV is an option, though likely a very unpalatable one. If the shakedown looks to be BYU, Air Force, Texas and Texas Tech, they can plausibly do a North/South split rather than East/West (dividing the old Pac-Ten mostly evenly, and not forcing the Arizonas to be partnered with all of the newbies), with Washington/Oregon/Colorado/Utah partners in the North, and Bay Area/Los Angeles/Arizona/Texas partners in the South (with 2 crossover games engineered to give access to Texas and/or California trips yearly to the Northern football teams).
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
So the Mountain West put a condition on Boise joining, they can't wear the all blue uni's on the blue turf.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...tate-no--blue-uniforms-for-league-games_n.htm
So the Mountain West put a condition on Boise joining, they can't wear the all blue uni's on the blue turf.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/coll...tate-no--blue-uniforms-for-league-games_n.htm
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Good. That ****'s awful on television.
Good. That ****'s awful on television.
And if Boise was lousy right now it wouldn't have been an issue.
P
Priceless
Guest
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Word is North Carolina just fired Butch Davis. Interesting timing...
Word is North Carolina just fired Butch Davis. Interesting timing...
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
8 days before practice starts. Brilliant move.
8 days before practice starts. Brilliant move.
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Still going to be awful.
A white jersey or white pants isn't going to make it any better.
Just seems very petty to me.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Someone is going on probation...
Someone is going on probation...
bronconick
Yep, still here
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Yeah, because they'd still be in the WAC.
Yeah, because they'd still be in the WAC.
First Time Long Time
Rebuilding
Well the AD has now resigned and listening to this press conference, the school chancellor is tap-dancing away.
unofan
Well-known member
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Nebraska and Iowa will now be playing "The Heroes Game." No word on the actual trophy yet; my guess is a bronzed American flag or some other stupidly patriotic overdose.
Why yes, it is as stupid as it sounds. Apparently Nebraska and Iowa's sports marketing people are the same ones that came up with Leaders and Legends for division names.
Nebraska and Iowa will now be playing "The Heroes Game." No word on the actual trophy yet; my guess is a bronzed American flag or some other stupidly patriotic overdose.
Why yes, it is as stupid as it sounds. Apparently Nebraska and Iowa's sports marketing people are the same ones that came up with Leaders and Legends for division names.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Some artist will use corn kernels as pixles to make an American flag. That would speak Iowa and Nebraska.
Some artist will use corn kernels as pixles to make an American flag. That would speak Iowa and Nebraska.
Re: College Football V: Bowls Are Done; Carry On My Wayward Sons
Queue up the dong jokes, cause that's what a giant corn trophy is going to look like.
Queue up the dong jokes, cause that's what a giant corn trophy is going to look like.