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College Football III: We may lose, but we keep the score close!

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They could always ask Temple to come back. :D

Nova has to be in there. I would try and woo Army to come to the conference.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
They could always ask Temple to come back. :D

Nova has to be in there. I would try and woo Army to come to the conference.
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I have to look at UMass as well. A strong 1-AA program that is the flagship school for the UMass system. That way, you can return Big East football back to Massachusetts.

The problem is you have to find a school that will accept the fact they wont play in the Big East in for basketball. Some schools may not accept that, but another positive for UMass is the close proximity to most of the Big East schools, so maybe a schedule agreement can be made for basketball to keep them in the A-10.
 
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Maybe Notre Dame will be the 10th team :D:D:D:D
 
NMU8405 said:
Big East voted today to expand its football membership to 10 teams.

'Nova seems to be one logical choice.
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Nova would be a smart choice, but I would have to think they would need a major overhaul of their stadium to be a D1-A school.

The Big East could always get crazy and put a gun to Norte Dame's head. ND all into the league would help drop the spector of a Big Ten raid. And help them keep the BCS autobid. The only league left that would let ND in for everything but football is the MAC, and that would be a pretty hard pill for ND to swallow there.
 
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The smart money is on 'Nova and TCU. The hearsay and scuttlebutt on Big East message boards is that there's been some discussion between the conference and TCU, and that TCU is receptive to an offer.

'Nova requires some infrastructure work (a possibility is that they could use PPL Park, if the Union were willing to share), but it also requires no disruption to the basketball status quo. The understanding at the moment is that 'Nova's board of trustees are set to vote in December about whether they plan to upgrade to FBS, and as far as everyone knows, they still have a standing offer, the same one initially offered to UConn and 'Nova in '97, to come aboard.

TCU gets access to a BCS automatic bid (and by extension, strengthens the Big East's case to keep theirs, though it's not particularly insecure at the moment despite what ESPN wants you to believe, as well as weakens that of the Mountain West to get one), and the Big East pretty much snaps up the best available non-BCS program, gets access to the DFW market (OK, third-place access behind Texas and A&M, but exposure is exposure) and yearly recruiting trips to Texas.

Other interesting rumors involve the possibility that Seton Hall might be cutting back on its athletics, big time, and might be looking for a way out of the Big East (or the Big East might be looking to ask them if maybe they might be better suited to life elsewhere). In that case, adding TCU causes no disruption, other than travel, to the basketball league, and it leaves the league at 10FB/16BB.

Notre Dame is...unlikely. Unless it becomes absolutely clear that (a) the Big Ten isn't going to be picking up the phone and (b) NBC is looking for more value from the Notre Dame contract.
 
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kingdobbs said:
Notre Dame is...unlikely. Unless it becomes absolutely clear that (a) the Big Ten isn't going to be picking up the phone and (b) NBC is looking for more value from the Notre Dame contract.
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Its not as crazy as it sounds. If the Big East wants to get to 10 schools with football, telling ND all in or get out just might work. If ND calls the Big East, they could kick out the other ND sports and then be able to add a whole school like say TCU. Then, what does ND do with its other sports? Cobble together schedules for Men's and Women's Basketball, Volleyball, Track, Cross Country, Softball and baseball, Swallow some pride and move those sports into the MAC? Or prehaps worst of all, come crawling on your hands and knees to the Big Ten and having to kiss their ring? Tell me what ND fan really likes that last option there??
 
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bigmrg74 said:
Its not as crazy as it sounds. If the Big East wants to get to 10 schools with football, telling ND all in or get out just might work. If ND calls the Big East, they could kick out the other ND sports and then be able to add a whole school like say TCU. Then, what does ND do with its other sports? Cobble together schedules for Men's and Women's Basketball, Volleyball, Track, Cross Country, Softball and baseball, Swallow some pride and move those sports into the MAC? Or prehaps worst of all, come crawling on your hands and knees to the Big Ten and having to kiss their ring? Tell me what ND fan really likes that last option there??
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I won't disagree that it's not crazy (hell, in all honesty, short of independence I think the Big East is ND's best option). I'm just calling it unlikely. I do not think the risk of driving Notre Dame towards the Big Ten is worth the reward of it potentially working and getting Notre Dame on board. It really would all depend on whether the Big Ten wants to go to 16 or not.

Notre Dame's "Olympic + basketball" options are not incredibly bad, all told. None of them are the Big Ten or Big East (and for the one non-football sport that matters to the Domers, the latter is preferable), but there's the A-10 (decent hoops, teams in BosNyPhiWash), Horizon (lots of local competition, good programs in Butler and Valpo, as well as two in Chicago), and Missouri Valley (good hoops, a few local teams, access to Chicago). For all it matters, Notre Dame could even pull together their own all-sports conference that suspiciously doesn't include enough teams to play football but is still quite good at hoops.

And worst-case scenario? Notre Dame gets booted, they tell the Big Ten they want in, the Big Ten goes to sixteen, and Notre Dame convinces them to take Syracuse, Rutgers, and Pitt, or maybe UConn (in any event, schools that absolutely won't turn down an invite). Oops.

The Big East is pretty afraid of that nightmare scenario coming true. There's precious little they can do to stop it, but at the very least they can not make it happen through their own actions.
 
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TCU in the Big East? That would be rather bizarre. Kind of like Louisiana Tech being in the WAC. But, such are the strange bedfellows in modern college football.
 
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Bob Gray said:
TCU in the Big East? That would be rather bizarre. Kind of like Louisiana Tech being in the WAC. But, such are the strange bedfellows in modern college football.
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There has been a lot of rumors about TCU... the working theory is TCU and Houston as a pair. There has also been some interest staked out in UCF. Personally, if you want to make it a national game then opening up Texas makes as much sense as anything else.

I fear an addition of Villanova... I think its a waste of time in the modern era where everybody is out for themselves until the world stabilizes again. On the other hand, its not like we can snap our fingers and get Notre Dame or the Texas schools.
 
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Bob Gray said:
TCU in the Big East? That would be rather bizarre. Kind of like Louisiana Tech being in the WAC. But, such are the strange bedfellows in modern college football.
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Well, it is east. You're in Arizona :p
 
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Bob Gray said:
TCU in the Big East? That would be rather bizarre. Kind of like Louisiana Tech being in the WAC. But, such are the strange bedfellows in modern college football.
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You should ponder that while you go to one of Arizona's many beaches on the Pacific Ocean. :P
 
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Priceless said:
Well, it is east. You're in Arizona :p
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But I have no plans of joining the Big East or WAC myself. Yes, I would agree that if I were going to personally join the Big East, it would be rather strange, in several ways! :p
 
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Patman said:
There has been a lot of rumors about TCU... the working theory is TCU and Houston as a pair. There has also been some interest staked out in UCF. Personally, if you want to make it a national game then opening up Texas makes as much sense as anything else.

I fear an addition of Villanova... I think its a waste of time in the modern era where everybody is out for themselves until the world stabilizes again. On the other hand, its not like we can snap our fingers and get Notre Dame or the Texas schools.
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Nova gets you the Philly market and they've been killing it in FCS. Also, Brian Westbrook and Howie Long are famous alums that are willing to help get the word out. Nova will be more than viable in 10 years or less.

The dream scenario would be ND, but that's not happening. TCU and Houston are the BE's best options.
 
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MountieBoyOz said:
Nova gets you the Philly market and they've been killing it in FCS. Also, Brian Westbrook and Howie Long are famous alums that are willing to help get the word out. Nova will be more than viable in 10 years or less.

The dream scenario would be ND, but that's not happening. TCU and Houston are the BE's best options.
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Villanova's average attendance is like 6,000. They're not bringing jack squat in terms of the Philly market. They had 8,000 for a FCS semifinal last December.

TCU's not as absurd because their travel costs suck regardless of if they're in the MWC or Big East.
 
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Here I was, feeling rather depressed about last night's elections - when I got just the thing to cheer me up:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ching-pipe-dream-petersen-harbaugh-patterson/

Somebody needs to take the keys away from the Minnesota athletic department. It’s patently obvious that they are in no shape to drive.

How else but a BAC above the legal limit could you explain the latest report coming out the area regarding the Gophers’ search for a new head coach?

According to Charley Walters of the St. Paul Pioneer Press, and citing “a little birdie” that’s presumably connected to the program, the Gophers have targeted, in order of priority, Boise State’s Chris Petersen, Stanford’s Jim Harbaugh and Texas Christian’s Gary Patterson to replace the fired Tim Brewster.

On a related personal note, and citing the beer fairy, I have targeted Megan Fox, Jessica Alba and Natalie Portman, in that order, as my next wife should that position become available.
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Thanks, Minnesota. I needed that. :D
 
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Bob Gray said:
TCU in the Big East? That would be rather bizarre. Kind of like Louisiana Tech being in the WAC. But, such are the strange bedfellows in modern college football.
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Could be worse. We could be mathematically challenged, like a couple of other leagues we're already familiar with.

MountieBoyOz said:
Nova gets you the Philly market and they've been killing it in FCS. Also, Brian Westbrook and Howie Long are famous alums that are willing to help get the word out. Nova will be more than viable in 10 years or less.

The dream scenario would be ND, but that's not happening. TCU and Houston are the BE's best options.
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'Nova's a weird case. They're not incredibly value-added as far as football, and of questionable potential for having any football value. Their entire value rests, essentially, in intangibles. And some pretty good basketball, but that's only good as far as the TV contracts.

bronconick said:
Villanova's average attendance is like 6,000. They're not bringing jack squat in terms of the Philly market. They had 8,000 for a FCS semifinal last December.
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It's not all that much about whether Villanova can actually deliver the market as it is "can they justify a Big East Network presence in that area".

I've put three words in there that may not be familiar to people in that order. But it is a matter under discussion at the moment.
 
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Erin Andrews will be covering the Stanford/Arizona game this weekend. Would it be in poor taste to make a sign saying "I SEE YOU, ERIN" with an eyehole cut in the sign?
 
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