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College Football 2022: “Here’s a twenty, bury two.”

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bronconick said:
Big 12 votes unanimously to accept Colorado as new member, sources say - ESPN

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Colorado's time in the PAC12
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They can look back on the 3 or maybe 4 wins they got during their decade or so in the conference.
 
I only have a casual feeling for these things, but it seems to me that Colorado has been in about 4 different conferences since they were Big 7 the way God intended.

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So that’s the Pac-whatever done and dusted right? I don’t really see three schools they could add.
 
Jimjamesak said:
So that’s the Pac-whatever done and dusted right? I don’t really see three schools they could add.
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Two “obvious” ones:
SDSU - This has seemingly just been waiting for a media deal to be signed for a year now.
CSU - Their name was thrown around for Big XII expansion during the last couple rounds. And it replaces their Colorado market.

Maybes:
UNLV - They already have the Vegas market, but this gives them an actual team in it. And now they play at the Raiders stadium so it’s a legit P5 stadium. Awful football right now though.
SMU - Their name keeps popping up. Seems like a stretch given geography, but it gives them Dallas and a program that has a pulse again.

Wildcard:
Hawaii/Gonzaga - Give Hawaii football-only membership like they have for the MW and bring in the Zags for all sports. It’s died down now but there were rumors of Gonzaga to the Big 12. Problem is Hawaii is currently playing in like a 5k stadium and it sounds like it’s routine for construction on the island to take years longer than projected, so renovated Aloha might be waiting a long time. And in the new divisionless world of college football it’s probably not a big deal to have an odd number of teams, so getting a football program to offset Gonzaga isn’t a priority.
 
bronconick said:
Yeah. They still don't have a media deal. I think Washington or Oregon is calling the Big Ten and begging to get them out.
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UW, Stanford, Cal. DOn't think Oregon makes the cut. They'll be a package deal with OSU and they certainly don't make it.

If you can't find a school in the top 100ish research universities, they just will not make it.

Edit: Oh god, Oregon has half the NSF R&D grants of OSU.
Edit 2: North Dakota has more NSF grants than Oregon. They toast.
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
UW, Stanford, Cal. DOn't think Oregon makes the cut. They'll be a package deal with OSU and they certainly don't make it.

If you can't find a school in the top 100ish research universities, they just will not make it.

Edit: Oh god, Oregon has half the NSF R&D grants of OSU.
Edit 2: North Dakota has more NSF grants than Oregon. They toast.
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Oregon has Nike.
 
From a WVU board

1990: SEC adds South Carolina and Arkansas
1991: First season of Big East football
1991: ACC adds Florida State
1992: SEC holds first championship game
1993: Big 10 adds Penn State
1994: Big 12 forms with teams from SWC/Big 8
2004: ACC adds Miami and VT
2005: ACC adds Boston College
2005: Big East adds Louisville, Cincinnati and USF
2011: SEC adds Missouri and Texas A&M
2011: Big 10 adds Nebraska
2011: ACC adds Syracuse and Pitt
2011: Big 12 adds WVU and TCU
2011: PAC 10 adds Colorado and Utah
2014: Big 10 adds Rutgers and Maryland
2014: ACC adds Louisville
2021: SEC adds OU and Texas
2022: Big 10 adds USC and UCLA
2022: Big 12 adds UCF, Cincinnati, BYU and Houston
2023: Big 12 brings back Colorado
2023: ???

So now, Penn State is in a conference with USC and Nebraska, who's not in a conference with natural rival Oklahoma, who's back in a conference with Missouri, which isn't the Big 8, which is now the Big 12, which brought back Colorado and might add more PAC 12 schools to get to 16 teams, one of which is across the country in West Virginia, who's not in a conference with natural rival Pitt, who's also not in a conference with natural rival Penn State.
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Current rumors:

Big XII -
Arizona seems to be mentioned in everywhere, so if there's one more school to add it appears to be them.
Arizona State is also getting their name thrown around now as well for the Big XII, and the Board of Regents for Arizona (covering both UA and ASU) has been meeting more than once this week, including in executive sessions.
Last week Utah had apparently cooled on a Big XII move, but now their name is being thrown in the ring again. At this point, given the current proposed media deal appears to be mainly streaming on Apple, they may have reconsidered since the last meeting with the commissioner.

Big Ten -
Oregon and Washington rumors to the Big Ten began heating up again today. If the Big Ten is going to add anyone, they appear to be at the front of the line.
Stanford and Cal are also being thrown in as favorites if the Big Ten decides to go to 20. Apparently the schools want them, but the media partners would rather just keep it to UO and UW.

And that just leaves the two States. Oregon State doesn't have the branding of Oregon and is missing a billionaire benefactor who founded a major athletic company (funny enough the Big Ten has the other one in Maryland). Washington State is just... well I can't think of a school in a worse position for their conference to be collapsing. No sustained success, small stadium, remote town. If Gonazaga had football, even as an FCS, they'd be in a better position. Heck, even without it they've been rumored in the past for the Big XII.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
Current rumors:

Big XII -
Arizona seems to be mentioned in everywhere, so if there's one more school to add it appears to be them.
Arizona State is also getting their name thrown around now as well for the Big XII, and the Board of Regents for Arizona (covering both UA and ASU) has been meeting more than once this week, including in executive sessions.
Last week Utah had apparently cooled on a Big XII move, but now their name is being thrown in the ring again. At this point, given the current proposed media deal appears to be mainly streaming on Apple, they may have reconsidered since the last meeting with the commissioner.

Big Ten -
Oregon and Washington rumors to the Big Ten began heating up again today. If the Big Ten is going to add anyone, they appear to be at the front of the line.
Stanford and Cal are also being thrown in as favorites if the Big Ten decides to go to 20. Apparently the schools want them, but the media partners would rather just keep it to UO and UW.

And that just leaves the two States. Oregon State doesn't have the branding of Oregon and is missing a billionaire benefactor who founded a major athletic company (funny enough the Big Ten has the other one in Maryland). Washington State is just... well I can't think of a school in a worse position for their conference to be collapsing. No sustained success, small stadium, remote town. If Gonazaga had football, even as an FCS, they'd be in a better position. Heck, even without it they've been rumored in the past for the Big XII.
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In terms of Cal and Stanford, the media partners pales in comparison they bring to the research table. By an order of magnitude. The schools will win that battle.
 
Oregon would be the largest departure from the oldest and most important qualifications for big ten membership maybe in the history of the conference
 
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