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College Football 2021: Cash is King

OC can't find plays that they can get some momentum on. Other than the two plays, this has been not much for the offense again. At least they have the two plays.
 
It's kind of funny for the B1G sponsor kind of throw their B1G team that could be #1 under the bus for the SEC team that also has one loss. I can see that from Disney and CBS, but Fox? And if the committee wants to show it's advanced analysis, making Georgia and Bama play in a semi final would be good. Seeding at this point should not matter to avoid the same conference in the first round. Be more fun that way.
 
MichVandal said:
It's kind of funny for the B1G sponsor kind of throw their B1G team that could be #1 under the bus for the SEC team that also has one loss. I can see that from Disney and CBS, but Fox? And if the committee wants to show it's advanced analysis, making Georgia and Bama play in a semi final would be good. Seeding at this point should not matter to avoid the same conference in the first round. Be more fun that way.
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Let's assume Michigan wins. Some of the key comparisons with Alabama are as follows:

Conference Champion: Both - No advantage (theoretically...you could make an argument for either SEC > B1G or BIG > SEC).
Record: Both 11-1 - No advantage.
Wins vs. Top 25 Teams: Alabama - 3 (Georgia (1), Ole Miss (8), Arkansas (22)); Michigan - 2 (Ohio State (7) and Iowa (13)) - Advantage Alabama
Loss: Alabama (Road to Texas A&M (25) by 3); Michigan (Road to MSU (11) by 4) - Advantage Michigan
D-1 Wins vs. Winning Teams: Alabama - 6 (Miami, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia); Michigan - 6 (Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, Penn State, Ohio State, Iowa) - No advantage.

What it really comes down to, is that Alabama has more high-end wins (3-2) and the best win (Georgia). Michigan has the better loss. IMO, we should reward teams for their wins, not their losses. Thus, I would have Alabama at #1, and Michigan at #2. That being said, it is a lot closer than a lot of people might think at first blush.
 
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I have a hard time seeing how Iowa is gonna score 19 more points in this game, but I've been burned before
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Fun fact: Iowa has scored 19 or more points in the second half once this season...their last game against Nebraska where they scored 19 points in the 4th quarter. Prior to that, the last time Iowa scored 19 or more points in the second half was 1944. : p
 
I hate to admit it, but I almost wanted Notre Dame to get in and win it all, just to stick it to Kelly leaving because he thought he had to be in the SEC to win one. Not as much pro-ND as anti-SEC.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
Let's assume Michigan wins. Some of the key comparisons with Alabama are as follows:

Conference Champion: Both - No advantage (theoretically...you could make an argument for either SEC > B1G or BIG > SEC).
Record: Both 11-1 - No advantage.
Wins vs. Top 25 Teams: Alabama - 3 (Georgia (1), Ole Miss (8), Arkansas (22)); Michigan - 2 (Ohio State (7) and Iowa (13)) - Advantage Alabama
Loss: Alabama (Road to Texas A&M (25) by 3); Michigan (Road to MSU (11) by 4) - Advantage Michigan
D-1 Wins vs. Winning Teams: Alabama - 6 (Miami, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Arkansas, Georgia); Michigan - 6 (Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, Wisconsin, Penn State, Ohio State, Iowa) - No advantage.

What it really comes down to, is that Alabama has more high-end wins (3-2) and the best win (Georgia). Michigan has the better loss. IMO, we should reward teams for their wins, not their losses. Thus, I would have Alabama at #1, and Michigan at #2. That being said, it is a lot closer than a lot of people might think at first blush.
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Bama has a few crappy wins, too. Michigan didn't play New Mexico State. That should not be overlooked, and it always is. And Southern Miss is not better than Western MI. You say wins matter, so weak wins should matter, too- or at least count less.

More important, the seeds should not care about an SEC semi final. That's really what's going to be arranged.
 
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MichVandal said:
Bama has a few crappy wins, too. Michigan didn't play New Mexico State. That should not be overlooked, and it always is. And Southern Miss is not better than Western MI. You say wins matter, so weak wins should matter, too- or at least count less.
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As I said, it is close. I do think Alabama has better wins though. Beating Georgia by 17 is pretty impressive.

MichVandal said:
More important, the seeds should not care about an SEC semi final. That's really what's going to be arranged.
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I completely agree. The committee should seed the teams 1-4 based on their resumes without factoring in conference affiliation. I believe that even if they were to rank Michigan at #1 (or Cincy at #3), they would maneuver the ranks to avoid an SEC semifinal. That is wrong. FWIW, my matchups (1. Alabama v. 4. Cincy and 2. Michigan v. 3. Georgia) are based on how I would rank the four likely Playoff teams.
 
Fighting Sioux 23 said:
As I said, it is close. I do think Alabama has better wins though. Beating Georgia by 17 is pretty impressive.



I completely agree. The committee should seed the teams 1-4 based on their resumes without factoring in conference affiliation. I believe that even if they were to rank Michigan at #1 (or Cincy at #3), they would maneuver the ranks to avoid an SEC semifinal. That is wrong. FWIW, my matchups (1. Alabama v. 4. Cincy and 2. Michigan v. 3. Georgia) are based on how I would rank the four likely Playoff teams.
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IMHO, the extra bye against NMSU should count against them. That crap constantly happens in the SEC. I can't count how many times my Vandals played in money games against SEC teams.
 
MichVandal said:
IMHO, the extra bye against NMSU should count against them. That crap constantly happens in the SEC. I can't count how many times my Vandals played in money games against SEC teams.
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You shouldn't count a win against a team. I don't disagree with you that the SEC often schedules "bye" teams prior to rivalry games, but you shouldn't count a win against a team. IMO, Alabama has the better wins, and when teams are effectively tied, that should be the tiebreaker.
 
And Michigan beat the MAC champion Northern Illinois. Exactly which league champion did Alabama beat this season? ;-)

Also, if you want to use Common Opponents, WMU* beat the ACC Champion, and MAC Champion. *but finished last in the fucking MAC West, because reasons.
 
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French Rage said:
I hate to admit it, but I almost wanted Notre Dame to get in and win it all, just to stick it to Kelly leaving because he thought he had to be in the SEC to win one. Not as much pro-ND as anti-SEC.
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Win/win. But everything went wrong today and there's no way.
 
Bama is getting the 1 seed because the committee isn't going to set up an immediate rematch in the semis between them and Georgia.

Orange: #1 Alabama vs #4 Cincinnati
Cotton: #2 Michigan vs #3 Georgia

Rose: #7 Ohio State vs #13 Utah
Sugar: #6 Baylor vs #8 Ole Miss
Fiesta: #10 Michigan State vs #5 Notre Dame
Peach: #11 Pitt vs #9 Oklahoma State

The teams in the Fiesta and Peach are all at-large so the committee can play around with whatever narratives they want. There's a neutral site Battle for the Megaphone between MSU and ND, there's a coach against a former team with MSU and Pitt, there's pseudo ACC foes between ND and Pitt. And then Oklahoma State is there for the other game.
 
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