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College Football 2009: Where Championships are won by a majority vote

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Well the new and improved UM offense is anything but. Gophers are even in TOP, have fewer PEN and TO but they cannot move the ball, continually giving the ball back to ISU. Not that I should be surprised, but ****...
 
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Terrierbyassociation said:
James isn't going to make any money out of this. In fact his father might be sued as well.
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I'm sure Leach can sue the school and could try to sue James but why do you think he'd win?

It doesn't matter what his record was, if TT can convince a judge that Leach's behavior was outside of whatever clauses in his contract apply to treatment of players, following medical guidelines etc. then I don't see how they lose.

I wouldn't say I'm on James' side at all but regardless of how that family handled it, if the kid's story is believed by the judge then I don't see how TT loses a lawsuit.

You are the lawyer...there obviously are some things you think favor Leach but they aren't as clear to at least me and I guess, TT.

please understand, I'm not disagreeing with you...just asking for your input to help get a better understanding. :)
 
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Gophers driving down by 1 but man they'd love to have that missed FG back.
 
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Its always best to run trick/wildcat plays when you are trying to take the lead instead of plays that actually work.
 
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And a TO. :mad:

And of course due to lame decisions the Gophers are down to only 1 timeout left I think.
 
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Its always best to run trick/wildcat plays when you are trying to take the lead instead of plays that actually work.
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It did work a few plays earlier. MN seems to suffer from self inflicted lobotomies inside the 20.
 
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I'm sure Leach can sue the school and could try to sue James but why do you think he'd win?

It doesn't matter what his record was, if TT can convince a judge that Leach's behavior was outside of whatever clauses in his contract apply to treatment of players, following medical guidelines etc. then I don't see how they lose.

I wouldn't say I'm on James' side at all but regardless of how that family handled it, if the kid's story is believed by the judge then I don't see how TT loses a lawsuit.

You are the lawyer...there obviously are some things you think favor Leach but they aren't as clear to at least me and I guess, TT.

please understand, I'm not disagreeing with you...just asking for your input to help get a better understanding. :)
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I'm curious about TBA's logic, because he seems to be arguing that Leach is essentually above any sanction for his actions. While I don't know the particulars of his contract, IF the allegations are true, and he did have an injured player locked in an pitch dark electrical closet with a guard posted for several hours not once but twice, I fail to see how he wins that case. :confused:
 
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I thought the best game of the day, yesterday, was the Navy/Mizzou. Good to see the military academies win both bowls on the same day.

VT/Tenn was a little boring.
 
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eaglehockeyrules said:
I thought the best game of the day, yesterday, was the Navy/Mizzou. Good to see the military academies win both bowls on the same day.

VT/Tenn was a little boring.
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I'd agree with you, but there was this: Lane Kiffin pouting and wanting to throw a tantrum for 2-3 hours is half-decent TV. :)
 
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Wow, the Auburn receiver did a nice job channeling his inner-Moss; nice push off.
 
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Hoping Northwestern can get something going and make a game of it against Auburn. Yay geek schools! :)
 
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Gawww... the field at the capital one bowl looks like ****. :p
 
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Auburn is doing everything they can to lose the game. Insane finish brewing at the Outback Bowl.
 
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This game is rivaling the Idaho-Bowling Green game for it's ending.
 
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Rover said:
I'm curious about TBA's logic, because he seems to be arguing that Leach is essentually above any sanction for his actions. While I don't know the particulars of his contract, IF the allegations are true, and he did have an injured player locked in an pitch dark electrical closet with a guard posted for several hours not once but twice, I fail to see how he wins that case. :confused:
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Yeah, even if James showed up in practice in drag with a blow up doll you aren't going to convince anyone that what you did wasn't retaliatory...that is why I cringe for TT every time one of them opens their mouths to say James was a problem...they just further support the motive.

It doesn't matter what James did or didn't do, how hurt he was etc...unless TT can show that every player with a concussion was treated similarly then the school is going to win.

That Leach thought James was a baby is what worries me...cut the kid, send him back to campus, whatever...don't do something out of spite...regardless of James' issues, that indicates that Leach is baby also but is a baby representing the school while pulling down millions. The school has to fire him and say "he's crazy and acted outside all of our guidelines" or the potential James' lawsuit will name the school too.

The interim guy in charge trying to condone the treatment in a letter of support for Leach now opens himself up to not being retained...the school can't trust his judgment either.

As they say, it isn't what happens, it is how you react to what happens. Even if James took a leak in Leach's coffee, as the head coach and likely highest paid employee of the school, you have to resolve it in another way.

That is leadership 101.


edit: just like the leagues have a discipline person, if I had a college team worth $50-80mm a year I might go as far as to say (for all coaches benefit) "run all discipline actions through this person to make sure you don't get fired, sued or both.
 
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Rover said:
I'm curious about TBA's logic, because he seems to be arguing that Leach is essentually above any sanction for his actions. While I don't know the particulars of his contract, IF the allegations are true, and he did have an injured player locked in an pitch dark electrical closet with a guard posted for several hours not once but twice, I fail to see how he wins that case. :confused:
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The trainer has already said he wasn't locked in, so most of these allegations are false. Coaches are allowed to discipline players, he didn't beat the kid. The kid was cleared to play and refused to practice.

I like how TT is getting rid of Leach citing this as the example, ignoring the due process of their own contract...when they hired Bobby Knight...:D

I'm not saying anything about Leach's actions. His actions don't really matter because TT didn't follow their own rules for firing Leach. This James issue is a red herring. In the end TT is going to shell out a huge buyout to Leach.
 
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