College Football 2009: Bowl College Stupidity Rankings

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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They've been the backbone of this SU team all season and that's encouraging because those are the aspects of the game that I would want to re-build my football program around. I hope they keep building on this next year.

Four wins this year isn't a bad starting point considering how miserable the team was under Robinson. Nice to see Robinson go to Michigan and help RichRod murder that program.

 

[The Darkness]

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Is it next year yet?

 

[PrezdeJohnson09]

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Four wins this year isn't a bad starting point considering how miserable the team was under Robinson. Nice to see Robinson go to Michigan and help RichRod murder that program.

Agreed. Just need to start getting those Northeastern recruits back from NJ, Conn, MD that the Cuse used to get all the time.

Also they've gotta start finding a way to keep some of the top five players in New York state each season at home.

Granted, NY doesnt have the quality and depth of many of the other states in high school football but there still usually are a couple high end recruits every year and lately they've been leaving the state going to other schools. Syracuse has got to find a way to try and regionalize NY and get a pipeline going for the top players to stay at home at the self-named "New York's college team"

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Well Stanford had its chances but didn't play it's game. The running game was going well when they tried it but they kept going back to passing, and Luck was having a bit of an off day. Especially at the end, 1:35 left on the Cal 13, plenty of time to do a few running plays, get it in safely, and run out the clock. Also, you really shouldn't run on the field when it's not your stadium; maybe all the students saw the cops lined up and wanted to run into them to relive this past week in Berkeley.

I thought Cal had seriously f-up when they couldn't punch it in on that last drive. I was having visions of John Elway's almost game winning drive in 1982. Luckily the defense came through in the end.

A solid big game and if the Cardinal keep Harbaugh around for a while, it could be the first of many to come.

 

[Jon]

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maybe, just maybe, we can stop pretending that Notre Dame is a program that has national relevance because they're good and start realizing that their program has national relevance because people still love the glory days of Catholic football.

That and the fact that the character of "Rudy" scared the hell out of me.

 

[Dirty]

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maybe, just maybe, we can stop pretending that Notre Dame is a program that has national relevance because they're good and start realizing that their program has national relevance because people still love the glory days of Catholic football.

Again thanks for the newsflash, Nerdman.

 

[French Rage]

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I thought Cal had seriously f-up when they couldn't punch it in on that last drive. I was having visions of John Elway's almost game winning drive in 1982. Luckily the defense came through in the end.

A solid big game and if the Cardinal keep Harbaugh around for a while, it could be the first of many to come.

Here's hoping! Gerhart will likely be gone next year, but I like how Luck is developing, and if the O-line keeps it up another running back can do well there, plus there's a lot of talk for the next recruiting class.

 

[Patman]

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Again thanks for the newsflash, Nerdman.

Its because of this perception that UConn almost scheduled a 0-6-1... 0 at home, 6 at South Bend, 1 at the Meadowlands. I know I'm not saying anything new... I'm saying things that can't be said enough... because otherwise you have schools like UConn trying to schedule a 0-6-1 against Notre Dame.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Here's hoping! Gerhart will likely be gone next year, but I like how Luck is developing, and if the O-line keeps it up another running back can do well there, plus there's a lot of talk for the next recruiting class.

Yeah, the constant fear is (and this is admittedly less pronounced in Berkeley, but still present) is that these schools with actual academic standards are one coaching change away from sliding into mediocrity or worse. I saw it with the close of the Bill Snyder era when I was growing up and the 7-8 years of futility in Palo Alto that just recently came to an end.

 

[French Rage]

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Yeah, the constant fear is (and this is admittedly less pronounced in Berkeley, but still present) is that these schools with actual academic standards are one coaching change away from sliding into mediocrity or worse. I saw it with the close of the Bill Snyder era when I was growing up and the 7-8 years of futility in Palo Alto that just recently came to an end.

Like any times they'll go through highs and lows, and perhaps the academic schools' lows will last longer than the highs. But as Wazzu shows us, academic schools are not the only ones prone to bouts of sucking.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Like any times they'll go through highs and lows, and perhaps the academic schools' lows will last longer than the highs. But as Wazzu shows us, academic schools are not the only ones prone to bouts of sucking.

Well it doesn't help being located in the most god forsaken region of the west coast. Its a wonder they were ever good. A recruit can look around and say "Lets see I can spend time in Phoenix, the Bay Area, Seattle, LA, Coastal Oregon, Tucson (its warm), or some cold windswept version of Visalia."

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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You know that there's another thread to talk about D2 football right??

Doesn't ever stop you, does it?

Its because of this perception that UConn almost scheduled a 0-6-1... 0 at home, 6 at South Bend, 1 at the Meadowlands. I know I'm not saying anything new... I'm saying things that can't be said enough... because otherwise you have schools like UConn trying to schedule a 0-6-1 against Notre Dame.

Yep, money has nothing to do with that (if I'm reading your post right). Notre Dame may not be as good as year's past, but if you're implying that schools like UConn wouldn't make more money by traveling to South Bend, then they would at home...you, sir, are off your rocker. If I'm not reading your post right...ignore what I just said as a response.

If any alumni base can raise 40-45 million for a new football coach...it's Notre Dame.

 

[Priceless]

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The new BC$ rankings:

Florida
Alabama
Texas
Texas Christian
Cincinnati
Boise State
Georgia Tech
Oregon
Pitt
Ohio State

 

[Wardy]

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Just got word: Northeastern will be cutting their FCS level football team starting next year.

 

[Dirty]

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Just got word: Northeastern will be cutting their FCS level football team starting next year.

No more ripping on Rocky Hager. How sad.

 

[BoomGoestheDynamite]

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Just got word: Northeastern will be cutting their FCS level football team starting next year.

That is unfortunate for the players, but a lot of these lower tier football programs don't even pay for themselves, especially if the school is dolling out 63 scholarships. A lot of apathetic students bodies in FCS don't hurt (I know I couldn't give a crap about Cornell's team either way and I obviously love college football). Hopefully this won't start a trend.

 

[Derek Dunning]

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The new BC$ rankings:

Florida
Alabama
Texas
Texas Christian
Cincinnati
Boise State
Georgia Tech
Oregon
Pitt
Ohio State

So lets do a little bit of a guess work here to see how this might all shake out, assuming there are no major upsets.

The selection process for this year's BCS goes Orange, Fiesta, Sugar


Contractual obligations:

The Rose Bowl gets the Big Ten Champ vs the Pac 10 champ
The Orange Bowl gets the ACC champ
The Fiesta Bowl gets the Big 12 champ
The Sugar Bowl gets the SEC Champ

So obviously our first two bowls are set with the title game being SEC Champ vs Texas and Oregon/Oregon State winner vs Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. The other three bowls get tricky.

The Fiesta and Sugar bowl both lose their conference champ. The Fiesta Bowl gets first dibs on picking a replacement so my guess would be they would take the SEC loser. The Sugar Bowl then would probably take judging by fan base, Penn State.

The Orange Bowl gets Georgia Tech as the ACC champion and the first pick so I'll say they go with Big East champ Cincy.

Fiesta Bowl is next and they have the choice of TCU, Pittsburgh, or Oklahoma State. I'd guess they go with TCU.

Sugar Bowl gets Pitt or Oklahoma State...I'd guess they pick Oklahoma State.

BCS Title Game: SEC winner vs Texas
Rose Bowl: Oregon State/Oregon vs Ohio State
Fiesta Bowl: SEC Loser vs TCU
Orange Bowl: Georgia Tech vs Cincinatti
Sugar Bowl: Penn State vs Oklahoma State

So those are my thoughts...I did a quick scan of the process...Am i way off with how I went through the process? If so...please feel free to correct me.

I hate the fact Boise pretty much has no chance of being picked in this.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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Just got word: Northeastern will be cutting their FCS level football team starting next year.

Here's the story. At least this gets BU off the hook for being chanted at about having no football team.

 

[bigmrg74]

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Just got word: Northeastern will be cutting their FCS level football team starting next year.

Here's the story. At least this gets BU off the hook for being chanted at about having no football team.

Never a good thing to cut sports, but looks like they cutting the team the least painful way. The AD came and talked to the team first, before any press releases, and doing it early enough that guys can figure out where they want to transfer out too with plenty of time to figure out where they want to go. Because the program is being dropped, they can transfer to any program out there, like say Boston College perhaps.

 

[pirate]

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That is unfortunate for the players, but a lot of these lower tier football programs don't even pay for themselves, especially if the school is dolling out 63 scholarships. A lot of apathetic students bodies in FCS don't hurt (I know I couldn't give a crap about Cornell's team either way and I obviously love college football). Hopefully this won't start a trend.

On the other hand, maybe it should start a trend. The programs drain resources from the many to pay for a few...on many campuses, to your point, the teams don't receive much support from, or enjoyment for, the student body.

I love football as much as anybody but would rather see a school devote its resources to sports in which they can succeed vs. pouring money into a perennial also ran.