TheGreenCoat
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Re: Colgate 2016-17 A New Beginning
kind of interesting that I'm seeing several references to Tim Taylor, Yale's hockey coach from the late 1970s to the 2005-06 season...I never mentioned it here - not thinking it quite appropriate or "on all fours" - but I described our situation at Colgate as potentially being "Tim Taylor Disease", i.e., that of a good college coach, a good man and a relatively successful coach, staying behind the bench several years beyond what one's year-by-year record would dictate. Taylor did a great job in turning around that was perhaps at the time the worst ECAC team throughout the 1970s (at least until 1976-77). He remained relatively successful until the late 1990s (his 1997-98 team went 23-9-3, went to the NCAAs) until he was fired eight years later. His contributions to Yale hockey are beyond argument, yet he finished his career with an overall record of 337-433-35. In large measure this does understate his overall success; his success was in the face of Yale ADs who were not hockey fans and/or provided little support to Taylor's recruiting efforts (Dr. Frank Ryan - yes, that Frank Ryan of the 1964 world championship Browns - as an example). So Allain probably came in with a better support system, yes, but also a new approach (USHL experience) to raising the level of the Yale hockey program. This long-winded intro is meant to compare our current situation to that of Yale's in 2005, 2006, etc. I frankly have no answer since, despite being a member of the Silver Puck Council for almost 40 years, I get very little (actually ZERO) input from the very organization that I have been very, very loyal to for these many years. I think Jerry Quill is a great guy, but to be honest, I'd rather have an energetic 50-year old raising $$$ and raising awareness of the program. And when I make a donation - four figures - I'd like to get a little more feedback than a robo-signed thank you note. These are optics, I know, but are they also reflective of an attitude that pervades the Hamilton, NY ivory towers in general? I have no answers for MARMOT, other than it comes down to recruiting and the Moore/Dickson team were **** good at it. We have a coach who, by all objective measurement, can coach. But as we all know there is more to coaching than getting the best out of the players we can put on the ice. Even at age 66 I am willing to wait before I lose faith in DV, but the sands are running through the hour glass, not by my timetable, but by any objective analysis of the last two (and last ELEVEN) years...
kind of interesting that I'm seeing several references to Tim Taylor, Yale's hockey coach from the late 1970s to the 2005-06 season...I never mentioned it here - not thinking it quite appropriate or "on all fours" - but I described our situation at Colgate as potentially being "Tim Taylor Disease", i.e., that of a good college coach, a good man and a relatively successful coach, staying behind the bench several years beyond what one's year-by-year record would dictate. Taylor did a great job in turning around that was perhaps at the time the worst ECAC team throughout the 1970s (at least until 1976-77). He remained relatively successful until the late 1990s (his 1997-98 team went 23-9-3, went to the NCAAs) until he was fired eight years later. His contributions to Yale hockey are beyond argument, yet he finished his career with an overall record of 337-433-35. In large measure this does understate his overall success; his success was in the face of Yale ADs who were not hockey fans and/or provided little support to Taylor's recruiting efforts (Dr. Frank Ryan - yes, that Frank Ryan of the 1964 world championship Browns - as an example). So Allain probably came in with a better support system, yes, but also a new approach (USHL experience) to raising the level of the Yale hockey program. This long-winded intro is meant to compare our current situation to that of Yale's in 2005, 2006, etc. I frankly have no answer since, despite being a member of the Silver Puck Council for almost 40 years, I get very little (actually ZERO) input from the very organization that I have been very, very loyal to for these many years. I think Jerry Quill is a great guy, but to be honest, I'd rather have an energetic 50-year old raising $$$ and raising awareness of the program. And when I make a donation - four figures - I'd like to get a little more feedback than a robo-signed thank you note. These are optics, I know, but are they also reflective of an attitude that pervades the Hamilton, NY ivory towers in general? I have no answers for MARMOT, other than it comes down to recruiting and the Moore/Dickson team were **** good at it. We have a coach who, by all objective measurement, can coach. But as we all know there is more to coaching than getting the best out of the players we can put on the ice. Even at age 66 I am willing to wait before I lose faith in DV, but the sands are running through the hour glass, not by my timetable, but by any objective analysis of the last two (and last ELEVEN) years...
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