Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

[LynahFan]

Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

With Cyber threats becoming more and more prevalent, the tools to maintain a secure standalone network are getting better and better in response. I work with multiple isolated networks on a daily basis - it honestly is not that big of an IT burden.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

With automation becoming more and more prevalent, do you think people would be willing to take the steps to make an entire system that needs to be manned 24/7/365?

all power plants are manned 24/7/365.

you can automate lots of things without connecting them to the internet. You'll still need a human between an externally received signal like "the grid needs more power" and telling the reactor control computer to increase power to X megawatts.

 

[Kepler]

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To be fair all I know about this comes from Battlestar Galactica.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I thought the problem is that a lot of the software depends on interconnectivity with web-based resources (updates, status accounting, etc).

Yeah, there is no such thing as an isolated network. Eventually updates get made. Unless those updates are never applied or are written on the isolated network themselves.

Plus we know a little bit about stuxnet’s vector. That was an air-gapped system.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

Yeah, there is no such thing as an isolated network. Eventually updates get made. Unless those updates are never applied or are written on the isolated network themselves.

Plus we know a little bit about stuxnet’s vector. That was an air-gapped system.

That was managed by building time bombs right into the system prior to release, right? With or without Siemens' knowledge, the US and Israel loaded the malware right onto the firmware so it shipped with the product. When the Iranians turned the control system on they had themselves already brought the Trojan horse into the city. That's how I remember it -- I may be waaaay off.

 

[aparch]

Yeah, there is no such thing as an isolated network. Eventually updates get made. Unless those updates are never applied or are written on the isolated network themselves.

Plus we know a little bit about stuxnet’s vector. That was an air-gapped system.

Weakest links will always be users with physical access like USB ports.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

That was managed by building time bombs right into the system prior to release, right? With or without Siemens' knowledge, the US and Israel loaded the malware right onto the firmware so it shipped with the product. When the Iranians turned the control system on they had themselves already brought the Trojan horse into the city. That's how I remember it -- I may be waaaay off.

It’s a possibility. But the virus also was released into the wild where it would install itself, check if it was on the right SLC7, lay dormant and infect everything it touched, and then delete itself.

It had four separate zero day exploits IIRC. This thing was set free to infect and eventually the gap was breached.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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Weakest links will always be users with physical access like USB ports.

Or any kind of external media. Physical security is the only security.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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https://scoop.upworthy.com/morgan-f...EQKeItp7qBX2Gr8CbUL1ihMMLfR5hhCHvhcEItAtANt9c

Morgan Freeman converted his 124-acre ranch into a bee sanctuary to save the environment

Thank you, Morgan Freeman.

This is the kind of thing our government is supposed to be doing.

 

[aparch]

This is the kind of thing our government is supposed to be doing.

Instead our governement is too busy bulldozing Saguaro
Cactus over on national park land specifically created for the protection of said cactus...

 

[Kepler]

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This headline gains 99.9% of its entertainment value from having read the Cafe.

 

[burd]

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This headline gains 99.9% of its entertainment value from having read the Cafe.

But not a word about how they play a dirty game of hockey up there.

 

[ticapnews]

This headline gains 99.9% of its entertainment value from having read the Cafe.

Having been to Duluth, I can say there would certainly be worse fates. Just make sure you dress warm and have a windbreaker. Some of the gusts that regularly come off Lake Superior are hurricane force. When I was visiting last fall we had winds that would have been a Cat 3 storm, but it was otherwise a beautiful day. The hockey isn't bad either.

 

[Kepler]

Re: Climate Change 2: Thank God for Global Warming

Having been to Duluth, I can say there would certainly be worse fates. Just make sure you dress warm and have a windbreaker. Some of the gusts that regularly come off Lake Superior are hurricane force. When I was visiting last fall we had winds that would have been a Cat 3 storm, but it was otherwise a beautiful day. The hockey isn't bad either.

It looks kinda like the Maine coast: beautiful, crisp, and harsh. As a lover of autumn and winter storms it's hard to do better. But I don't think that's most people's idea of a good time.

 

[Slap Shot]

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Rube is in love with her.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Our new UN Ambassador, Kelly Knight Craft on climate change: “I believe there are scientists on both sides that are accurate....I think that both sides have their own results from their studies, and I appreciate and respect both sides of the science.” <a href="https://t.co/dYc5sND0qD">pic.twitter.com/dYc5sND0qD</a></p>— Tomthunkit™ (@TomthunkitsMind) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomthunkitsMind/status/1186216148288917505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 21, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[mookie1995]

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both sides

 

[Handyman]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's a sum equivalent to the world’s military spending every 60 days <a href="https://t.co/99dxduVvnt">https://t.co/99dxduVvnt</a></p>— TIME (@TIME) <a href="https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1187220863734730752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's a sum equivalent to the world’s military spending every 60 days <a href="https://t.co/99dxduVvnt">https://t.co/99dxduVvnt</a></p>— TIME (@TIME) <a href="https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1187220863734730752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's a fantastic idea.

 

[Slap Shot]

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's a sum equivalent to the world’s military spending every 60 days <a href="https://t.co/99dxduVvnt">https://t.co/99dxduVvnt</a></p>— TIME (@TIME) <a href="https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1187220863734730752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Meanwhile f##k these a-holes.

Trump Administration Sues to Block California's Climate Change Agreement With Quebec

The Trump administration on Wednesday sued to try to block California from engaging in international efforts against climate change, charging that the state exceeded its constitutional authority by joining with a Canadian province in a program to cut climate-damaging fossil fuel emissions.

The suit, filed in federal court in California, is the latest Trump administration push to stymie state efforts aimed at contesting the administration’s rollbacks of environmental and climate protections. California says it’s being punished for its advocacy.

The complaint, which names Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom and others, alleges that California usurped federal power to conduct foreign policy and make international accords when it signed an ongoing agreement with Quebec to limit emissions.

I don't get these people.

 

[Handyman]

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I dont get it...why do they care so much that California wants to fix the environment? It has nothing to do with them. Plus I am not sure any court would agree with them...