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CCHA teams will join WCHA

Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

That NCHC, it's loaded with Big Time Schools with national appeal. The whole country is waiting for Denver U or the University of Denver or whatever they call it. And the broad reach of the Boys Formerly Named Sioux has the network execs drooling all over themselves. And Omaha and CC, well, it just doesn't draw a bigger viewing audience than that.:eek::p
 
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The spreadsheet works now; thanks for setting this up.

A couple of things jump off the page:

1. I knew that UAH was geographically closer to the "core" of the New WCHA than the Alaska teams. But the numbers show that it is much, much closer.
2. Compare the numbers for Kalamazoo/Houghton & Kalamazoo/Huntsville. It's basically a wash.

Now I wouldn't suggest that Alaska schools, or anyone else currently included in the New WCHA, should be disqualified on the basis of driving mileage. But I would argue that these numbers show why Huntsville shouldn't be disqualified either.

Question: It looks like Column M is the mean (average) mileage for each school. What do the other columns on the right side of the sheet represent?

M is the average trip with the Alaska schools' mileage involved.
N is without the Alaska schools' mileage
P is the distance to UAH (for sake of discussion about inviting them into the WCHA)
Q is the distance to MSU-Moorhead, if they start a program.
S is the average trip with those additional two schools (plus Alaskas)
T is the average trip with those additional two schools (w/o Alaskas).
 
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

That NCHC, it's loaded with Big Time Schools with national appeal. The whole country is waiting for Denver U or the University of Denver or whatever they call it. And the broad reach of the Boys Formerly Named Sioux has the network execs drooling all over themselves. And Omaha and CC, well, it just doesn't draw a bigger viewing audience than that.:eek::p

Is Miami's hockey team impacted at all by the violations that shook the football and hoops programs?

The UNO-UND games will have huge ratings. I mean, TV markets just don't get bigger than Grand Forks and Omaha!
 
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

That NCHC, it's loaded with Big Time Schools with national appeal. The whole country is waiting for Denver U or the University of Denver or whatever they call it. And the broad reach of the Boys Formerly Named Sioux has the network execs drooling all over themselves. And Omaha and CC, well, it just doesn't draw a bigger viewing audience than that.:eek::p

So Miami and Duluth are going to have to carry this ****? Let's do it ;)
 
Re: CCHA teams will join WCHA

That NCHC, it's loaded with Big Time Schools with national appeal. The whole country is waiting for Denver U or the University of Denver or whatever they call it. And the broad reach of the Boys Formerly Named Sioux has the network execs drooling all over themselves. And Omaha and CC, well, it just doesn't draw a bigger viewing audience than that.:eek::p
What about that big time D2 football school from doooloot?
 
That NCHC, it's loaded with Big Time Schools with national appeal. The whole country is waiting for Denver U or the University of Denver or whatever they call it. And the broad reach of the Boys Formerly Named Sioux has the network execs drooling all over themselves. And Omaha and CC, well, it just doesn't draw a bigger viewing audience than that.:eek::p
It's about time you get it......

:D
 
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I assume teams are expected to traverse the lake by boat.

I tried to make sure I picked the route that had the bus going around the lake rather than across it on a ferry somewhere. Probably screwed that up also.

I guess that is what I get for trying to do this on company time.:o
 
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I tried to make sure I picked the route that had the bus going around the lake rather than across it on a ferry somewhere. Probably screwed that up also.

I guess that is what I get for trying to do this on company time.:o

No, I checked. Those are mostly land routes. I was just giving you a hard time :p

And I didn't realize I-75 connects the Yoop with lower Michigan ;)
 
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No, I checked. Those are mostly land routes. I was just giving you a hard time :p

And I didn't realize I-75 connects the Yoop with lower Michigan ;)

It doesn't go to important school though. Just mini-Tech ;). That thing in the middle doesn't count either. :P
 
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SCSU is extending Gasparini's consulting stint......interesting comments in the St. Cloud article:

http://www.sctimes.com/article/20110901/SPORTS0401/108310050/SCSU-extends-athletics-adviser-s-time

Looks like they are indeed having "talks" with NCHC.

Probably hoping Notre Dame goes elsewhere, Western goes NCHC and BGSU isn't wanted/interested.

Seems like a long shot.

Potter said they were keeping touch with the NCHC's progress. So are the all of other D-I schools.
 
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SCSU is extending Gasparini's consulting stint......interesting comments in the St. Cloud article:

http://www.sctimes.com/article/20110901/SPORTS0401/108310050/SCSU-extends-athletics-adviser-s-time

Looks like they are indeed having "talks" with NCHC.

Probably hoping Notre Dame goes elsewhere, Western goes NCHC and BGSU isn't wanted/interested.

Seems like a long shot.

$15K per month for an athletic advisor? Don't they have an AD (and what must that salary be)? Dr Potter could save some cash, get a USCHO fan forum account and have 100s of free advisors!
 
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$15K per month for an athletic advisor? Don't they have an AD (and what must that salary be)? Dr Potter could save some cash, get a USCHO fan forum account and have 100s of free advisors!

While we do have an individual who is titled "Athletic Director" and is paid as such, no, we do not have a real AD. But hopefully thanks to Gino's hard work over the last 6 months that will change soon.
 
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1) BC won't get a B1G invite. Geographically, the B1G would invite several other eastern schools first in order to create a suitable bridge (Rutgers, Syracuse, even a very unlikely UConn). Their next focus is on NY, not Boston. B1G can look at the ACC's example, and I don't think the ACC is getting the number of eyes in the northeast they thought they would.

Agreed. Again, I don't think that the B10 would take BC. The only way I see that happening is (1) they take other eastern schools, and (2) Notre Dame says, "we're in as long as you take BC; we will feel more comfortable with another Catholic school at the table." But it's an interesting scenario for college hockey if it does happen.

2) If BC does get poached due to all conference considerations, I don't think HEA collapses.

4) If BC does get poached and HEA collapses and the schools don't find joining the NCHC ridiculous, then the truly best option for the NCHC grabbing the Boston market is to take BU and UNH then walk away. Any other school would provide only incrementally more Boston attention while increasing travel costs, reducing the gate, or resulting in the pie being sliced in smaller chunks than necessary.

Agreed; BC leaving would not necessarily mean the end of HEA.

But what is the NCHC all about? More money? People assume that money always drives conference alignment by itself. For some schools, money is an end in itself; for others, the ultimate goal is winning, and money is a means to an end. I really think that NoDak and Denver were driven more by competitive factors than money itself. They're worried about the B10 being more prestigious than the WCHA would have been. (Not saying they're right.) Dumping the low-prestige D II schools and trying to form a super-conference is about recruiting. "Hey kid, you won't be playing Bemidji and Ferris State. Every school here in the NCHC has been to a Frozen Four in the last 10 years (or whatever it is). The B10 can't say that! Come to NoDak or Denver instead of Wisconsin or Minnesota!"

BC and Notre Dame to the B10 would make the B10 even more attractive. The rest of the sport's powers will want to keep pace. Maine, BU, and UNH (and maybe 1 or 2 others) to the NCHC would leave you with two power conferences of roughly equal prestige. Which is what it's all about for the elite programs, even more than money itself.

Which is why they'd take Maine, too, and I don't think it would come down to TV markets as you suggest.

Again, this all just fun hypothetical speculation based on an unlikely scenario.
 
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Every school here in the NCHC has been to a Frozen Four in the last 10 years (or whatever it is).
Your point is well taken, but just a nit-pick... Every school but one in the NCHC has been to the FF in the last whatever years. UNO has never been.
 
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