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Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an election
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Your inside knowledge of his campaign was prescient I must admit. Like I stated before he had all the intangibles. He just needed to keep himself out of the briar patches.
I will accept all of your apologies for doubting me when I said Walker was a joke who had zero chance of winning the nomination let alone the presidency.
Your inside knowledge of his campaign was prescient I must admit. Like I stated before he had all the intangibles. He just needed to keep himself out of the briar patches.
WisconsinWildcard
The plural of anecdote is not data
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Do you sincerely believe this happens?
Do you sincerely believe this happens?
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
In joe's defense, there have been a couple instances in which it has in fact happened. These are then reprinted and retweeted around the Troglosphere billions of times so the knucks think it's happening every day.
In joe's defense, there have been a couple instances in which it has in fact happened. These are then reprinted and retweeted around the Troglosphere billions of times so the knucks think it's happening every day.
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ScoobyDoo
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Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
You don't say.
You don't say.
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Bernie @ Liberty with the reporter's annotations. I'm reading it very carefully.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sanders-liberty-university-speech-annotated/#
Bernie @ Liberty with the reporter's annotations. I'm reading it very carefully.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...sanders-liberty-university-speech-annotated/#
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
I think Bernie's message will find a sympathetic audience among many religious people who take calls for treating all God's children with dignity seriously. I am not sure that he's going to find that segment of the religious public among white evangelicals -- I associate it more with Catholics and black evangelicals. However, there is no reason in principle why we can't build a bridge between liberals concerned with the iniquity of inequality and conservatives concerned with the moral threat of poverty, on the common concern for the suffering of so many caused by an economic system warped by the greed of so few. It's worth a try.
I think Bernie's message will find a sympathetic audience among many religious people who take calls for treating all God's children with dignity seriously. I am not sure that he's going to find that segment of the religious public among white evangelicals -- I associate it more with Catholics and black evangelicals. However, there is no reason in principle why we can't build a bridge between liberals concerned with the iniquity of inequality and conservatives concerned with the moral threat of poverty, on the common concern for the suffering of so many caused by an economic system warped by the greed of so few. It's worth a try.
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Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
If a candidate was asked this question "What os your position on same sex marriage?"
And replied "If that is a deciding issue in this campaign, we're all in trouble."
Winner or loser?
If a candidate was asked this question "What os your position on same sex marriage?"
And replied "If that is a deciding issue in this campaign, we're all in trouble."
Winner or loser?
ScoobyDoo
NPC
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Winner for Democrats.
Death March for Republicans.
Winner for Democrats.
Death March for Republicans.
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Bern did a good job over at Bob Jones. Of course it'll get like zero coverage in the lamestream media.
Bern did a good job over at Bob Jones. Of course it'll get like zero coverage in the lamestream media.
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Irrelevant. Unemployment is too low and the economy is too strong for people to believe that. Thanks Obama.
Irrelevant. Unemployment is too low and the economy is too strong for people to believe that. Thanks Obama.
But Bernie (and to similar extent The Donald) are tapping into something - unemployment is low, but not for a large segment of the population. The economy is strong, but only for a select few.
The game is rigged and people are beginning to wise up to the game masters.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
It wasnt inside knowledge, it was watching him speak and the policies he backs. The guy is as boring as Al Gore with the fiscal policies of Dubya...he is everything wrong with the 2000 election all rolled into one!
Plus...he is from Wisconsin
It wasnt inside knowledge, it was watching him speak and the policies he backs. The guy is as boring as Al Gore with the fiscal policies of Dubya...he is everything wrong with the 2000 election all rolled into one!
Plus...he is from Wisconsin
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
This is true. Now we know some around he pretend that there arent independent voters and while it is probably only 15-20% that is enough to swing it and face facts those of us that identify as such are done with the Clintons and the Bushes. (and all of their disciples) Some are right leaning, some are left leaning, some are the middle but ultimately they hate the establishment of both parties because the hunt is canned. Billions are spent to tell people what to believe and to show these people care about those in need instead of actually doing something to actively help those people in need. The banks rip off the country for billions and nothing is done while they continue to just exploit and destroy the middle class and prey on the poor. Stats are shifted and facts are lied about, positions changed on a dime and we are just supposed to ignore it and hope the lesser of two evils makes things a bit better. Maybe before but not anymore.
This election is everything that is wrong with American politics down to both sides having large groups of people ignoring what they actually stand for and voting for candidates they despise just to stop the other side from winning and shunning those that might think differently. Christ it is so bad that the media covers Hillary scandals and Donald Trump and ignores all other stories. Bernie goes up in the polls or has big crowds and it is crickets. Republicans release policy initiatives and campaign plans and it is met with the sounds of silence. The whole thing is a joke...
This is true. Now we know some around he pretend that there arent independent voters and while it is probably only 15-20% that is enough to swing it and face facts those of us that identify as such are done with the Clintons and the Bushes. (and all of their disciples) Some are right leaning, some are left leaning, some are the middle but ultimately they hate the establishment of both parties because the hunt is canned. Billions are spent to tell people what to believe and to show these people care about those in need instead of actually doing something to actively help those people in need. The banks rip off the country for billions and nothing is done while they continue to just exploit and destroy the middle class and prey on the poor. Stats are shifted and facts are lied about, positions changed on a dime and we are just supposed to ignore it and hope the lesser of two evils makes things a bit better. Maybe before but not anymore.
This election is everything that is wrong with American politics down to both sides having large groups of people ignoring what they actually stand for and voting for candidates they despise just to stop the other side from winning and shunning those that might think differently. Christ it is so bad that the media covers Hillary scandals and Donald Trump and ignores all other stories. Bernie goes up in the polls or has big crowds and it is crickets. Republicans release policy initiatives and campaign plans and it is met with the sounds of silence. The whole thing is a joke...
Bob Jones? Yeesh!! You should be spanked and locked in a room with 24/7 Steve Lyons audio.
Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Still butthurt over The Departed, eh?
Some around here can count.
You're right about this, though. Our media stopped doing its job as the watch dog of democracy 30 years ago. The only question is whether this was an unintentional by-product of chasing the bottom line or the intentional suffocation of political discussion to serve the ruling class.
Still butthurt over The Departed, eh?
Some around here can count.
You're right about this, though. Our media stopped doing its job as the watch dog of democracy 30 years ago. The only question is whether this was an unintentional by-product of chasing the bottom line or the intentional suffocation of political discussion to serve the ruling class.
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Twitch Boy
Defacing this tagline is a MAX foul
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Trump is Rex Ryan. Or the guy on the Jets who sucker punched Geno Smith and knocked him out for half the season.
Right now is like pre-season football. Its good to hone your game and try out a few new things. Its also a time for fringe roster players to try and make a name for themselves. You also don't want to get injured. For Establishment types (Jebbers! Clinton. Biden.) you have time to take it easy and wait for the real games to start. We've already seen a roster cut (Perry). Walker is the 3rd string QB who throws 5 INT's during a start against the other team's scrubs. He might not get another chance to play after this. I've got nothing when it comes to extending this analogy to Trump.
Trump is Rex Ryan. Or the guy on the Jets who sucker punched Geno Smith and knocked him out for half the season.
Handyman
Hug someone you care about...
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
Why do you always bring that up...I havent discussed that with you in years. (I mock you for watching the Bachelor I could give two craps what you think of The Departed) I think you are the one with hurt feelings because I call you out on your BS all the time. Long pontifications and quoting a bunch of scholars who look down from ivory towers judging the masses doesnt mean you actually are right especially on politics.
Dont worry, you will be assimilated and will carry lots of water for Hillary. And in ten years you will then become one of those people who didnt vote for her like all the conservatives who never voted for Bush.
You are just lashing out now as your soul dies because you are selling out completely
(90% of this post is not to be taken with any amount of seriousness)
Why do you always bring that up...I havent discussed that with you in years. (I mock you for watching the Bachelor I could give two craps what you think of The Departed) I think you are the one with hurt feelings because I call you out on your BS all the time. Long pontifications and quoting a bunch of scholars who look down from ivory towers judging the masses doesnt mean you actually are right especially on politics.
Dont worry, you will be assimilated and will carry lots of water for Hillary. And in ten years you will then become one of those people who didnt vote for her like all the conservatives who never voted for Bush.
You are just lashing out now as your soul dies because you are selling out completely (90% of this post is not to be taken with any amount of seriousness)
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Kepler
Si certus es dubita
Re: Campaign 2016 - People lie the most after a hunt, during a war or before an elect
I just can't figure out why you're so butthurt. I figure I must have hurt your feewies over your adolescent movie tastes, because I assumed if you take issue with something factual then you'd, you know, make an argument rather than pitch a hissy fit.
I know you think you're "calling out BS," but all you're actually doing is saying "I don't agree but I can't craft a logical argument to rebut you, so I'll just do a faux populist drag act." That really doesn't fly here.
Also, you can't mock something that's done in self-mockery. I actually mean it with my Mets fandom, so direct your mocking talents there for better results.
Also, also: you think quoting scholars is bad? Who are you, Rick Santorum?
Why do you always bring that up...I havent discussed that with you in years. (I mock you for watching the Bachelor I could give two craps what you think of The Departed) I think you are the one with hurt feelings because I call you out on your BS all the time. Long pontifications and quoting a bunch of scholars who look down from ivory towers judging the masses doesnt mean you actually are right especially on politics.
I just can't figure out why you're so butthurt. I figure I must have hurt your feewies over your adolescent movie tastes, because I assumed if you take issue with something factual then you'd, you know, make an argument rather than pitch a hissy fit.
I know you think you're "calling out BS," but all you're actually doing is saying "I don't agree but I can't craft a logical argument to rebut you, so I'll just do a faux populist drag act." That really doesn't fly here.
Also, you can't mock something that's done in self-mockery. I actually mean it with my Mets fandom, so direct your mocking talents there for better results.
Also, also: you think quoting scholars is bad? Who are you, Rick Santorum?
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