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Campaign 2016 Part XVII: If debates are great theater, I think this one closes early

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Just not sure Trump is the right guy to capture a "the torch has been passed to a new generation" argument. Not only is he a year older than Hillary, he's also wearing a bleached skunk on top of his head. :D

Daniel Boone wore a coonskin hat.
 
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I'll keep that excellent false equivalency in mind next time I see a BLM member photoshop a picture of a Jewish person into a gas chamber with Hillary flipping the switch.

If you say those people are always around, where were they in 2012 or 2008, or any right wing campaign since George Wallace? You can try to brush them off as just a few rare exceptions, but we all know that's not the case, and we all know their voice is being amplified to dangerous levels thanks to Trump.

It won't matter, Maize. Some people will vote for Trump even if he . . . well, even if he said the things he's said in this campaign. Trump's candidacy is an illustration of confirmation bias being put to the acid test.
 
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She did not need the treatment typical of a Level 1 trauma center. Or that matter a level II or III trauma center. Had she been stricken with a suspected heart attack, or somebody had made an attempt on her life, I doubt her team would have detoured to the daughter's place. Had she gone to Bellevue she would have disrupted the care of actual trauma patients and would have been blamed for doing so simply because she let herself get into the condition she was in. Trauma center doctors, nurses and other health care professionals already ****** about the people showing up there to use the places as a primary care physician. Level I trauma centers are few and far between. In the entire state of Indiana for example, there are two, 3 if you count Riley Hospital for Children, and all are in once city, Indianapolis. The care she needed could have been provided by me if I had access to a decently stocked ALS ambulance.
 
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There's a great meme going around Facebook that says this is the first time the GOP has cared about a woman's health.
 
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With the recent "deplorable" comments and the remarks about just how many of the Trumpsters are actually mad racists, and because I think it's always a good idea to try to understand where other people are coming from, I thought it might be of interest to some to read this rather long, but fairly well written article by Allum Bokhari & (the infamous) Milo Yiannopoulous that attempts to explain who the alt right are and what they think. I myself looked it up after seeing Milo on CNBC the other day: An Establishment Conservative's Guide to the Alt Right
 
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There's a great meme going around Facebook that says this is the first time the GOP has cared about a woman's health.

I mentioned that a few pages ago...still makes me smile :)
 
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So the Clintons will cure pneumonia? Fox will probably spin this as them putting a lot of pharmaceutical sales rep out of work.

Don't forget defying God's will.
 
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The worst part of the whole deplorables comment was that she actually underestimated the number.
 
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With the recent "deplorable" comments and the remarks about just how many of the Trumpsters are actually mad racists, and because I think it's always a good idea to try to understand where other people are coming from, I thought it might be of interest to some to read this rather long, but fairly well written article by Allum Bokhari & (the infamous) Milo Yiannopoulous that attempts to explain who the alt right are and what they think. I myself looked it up after seeing Milo on CNBC the other day: An Establishment Conservative's Guide to the Alt Right

If Mein ****** is tl;dr for anyone, I'll summarize: They're the ones that called Leslie Jones a n***** c*** repeatedly and hacked her computer releasing personal information including nude pictures because she dared to be in a movie. It's all very intellectual, as they'll be the first to tell you.

Taking another dip into the basket of deplorables, former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke enjoyed his endorsement from Mike Pence this afternoon. You know, for guys that are supposed to be so tough on crime, the Trump campaign has become very hippie-dippie "we're all just good people who makes mistakes sometimes" recently.
 
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I am still debating whether I agree with you or not, in general, but we are in a nation with "safe-zones" on college campuses, which I think is utterly insane and idiotic.

This is completely unrelated to the subject at hand which was the legitimacy or lack thereof for feeling unsafe as it relates to 9/11. And anyone obtuse enough to extrapolate those fears at the concept of Hillary becoming POTUS while supposedly on her deathbed just speaks perfectly to the "I will sell my soul to make any argument I can trying to authenticate the candidacy Donald Trump".

Case in point my response to burd:

It won't matter, Maize. Some people will vote for Trump even if he . . . well, even if he said the things he's said in this campaign. Trump's candidacy is an illustration of confirmation bias being put to the acid test.

"I could shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters ..."
-Donald Trump

It's a sick, cruel effing joke.
 
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That was a pretty good read. It did a good job of explaining this relatively new term and who and what it is.

I wonder if the irreverent portion of the Alt-Right didn't find some of their inspiration from the irreverent nature of shows like "South Park". There were sacred cows on there, and they were summarily served with sauce and slaw. To me the Alt-Right is a natural out-spring of a culture that says, "you can't say that." These are the rebels, smart rebels, that say, "Really? Watch me."

Now, as with everything, there are the less savory segments and the article well defined the "1488". That was a streak of ugly I was aware of, but the "1488" definition was new to me. To claim the 1488 is the alt-right as intellectually lazy as claiming the Black Panther Party defines the Democrat Party.

Yes, the article is long; but, it is solidly written and clear. If you choose not to read it because "tl;dr" you just missed the opportunity to fix your own misconceptions; if you choose not to because "it's on scary Breitbart", well, you're no better than a 1488. And now you have to read it to figure out what you were just called.
 
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Its true Slap Shot...this BS perceived safety idea is nothing more than an excuse. That is like saying we need to keep the TSA around because they make us feel safe...feeling safe and being safe are two different things.

And again, the opposite side of the coin is, if you wont vote for her because of "safety" that means you will vote for Drumpf because of "safety". If that lunatic makes you feel safer I question if you even know what safety is. I guarantee his stupidity will put us closer to Nuclear War than we have been in 50 years...and will probably do it over a flipping tweet. Not to mention he already has ****ed off half our allies with his ridiculous statements and racist comments.

And that is just international politics, imagine what the Walking Bankruptcy Filing will do to the economy! This is the guy who cant keep casinos in the black but somehow our economic agenda is "safer" with him as opposed to a Clinton...you know the one whose husband paid down the debt and ran a balanced budget.

If you are educated on policy and have kept up with the rhetoric of the campaigns there is only one way that guy should honestly make you feel safer and that is if you dont like certain "undesirables". (sorry SJHovey but it is true) If you are like the biotch who attacked a Muslim woman and her child in Central Park...then yeah Drumpf should make you feel safe. If you are a closeted KKK sympathizer, you should feel safer (and does...hence why they are so public now about it) under the umbrella of Mr. Donald Drumpf. If your kid goes to the school that chanted racist/anti-immigrant stuff at another school that had a Latino player...well we now how safe Drumpf makes them feel.

See that is why the whole argument is a fallacy. It isnt about safety that is just the reason they chose to justify their choice because they need more than "I hate Hillary!!" which at least makes sense. I am sorry but unless you are Forrest Gump there is no way you can watch and listen to Donald Drumpf and say "Man, that guy is going to make sure to protect me and my interest, and will do what puts America in the best position to be safe in the world". All it will do is isolate us and further embolden hatred of "the others". I hate Clinton as much as anyone, but if she was in a coma I would would feel safer with her than Donald Drumpf. He and safety do not belong in the same dictionary...
 
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Yes, the article is long; but, it is solidly written and clear. If you choose not to read it because "tl;dr" you just missed the opportunity to fix your own misconceptions; if you choose not to because "it's on scary Breitbart", well, you're no better than a 1488. And now you have to read it to figure out what you were just called.

Oh, I read it. I guess I don't view slavery, the Holocaust, and rape as irreverent send-ups of sacred cows. I'm just not as scared of and angry at African-Americans, Jews, and women as you are, so it fell on deaf ears.
 
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Making jokes /= truly believing what the joke says. Making a Holocaust joke is nothing...having someone on your staff that is a Holocaust Denier who (allegedly) bragged about how many Jews he fired is a big deal. I havent read the article yet but if that is the way they frame it I never will. That is so academically false it defies imagination.
 
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Maureen Dowd and David Axelrod questioning the Clinton campaign's handling of the health issue? Whodathunk?
“The health issue this week is a perfect microcosm of why she has problems.” And that it follows “the exact same pattern” Clinton “follows every time,” of having a “wall of defensiveness and secretiveness and just pushing back, the press can’t know anything.”

“I agree with David Axelrod, who said, it isn’t about the health, it’s about the stealth. The health issue this week is a perfect microcosm of why she has problems.”

-- Maureen Dowd speaking with Megyn Kelly

Watch the exchange. The best parts are at about 2:30. (The intro where Dowd says her family is in Trump's basket was a stunner.)


I've never been a big Dowd fan, but she really calls out both Clinton and Trump. It make me smile.
 
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