Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

[SJHovey]

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You're trying so hard it's cute.

C'mon. He has to try. You think the USCHO DNC circle jerk is going to post comments on the emails? Personally I think the emails thing is about as significant as the pre-release of the balloons at the convention hall, but you gotta admit that if the shoe were on the other foot we'd have had 200 posts on it already.

I'm just happy the "Russians" decided to waste their time reading thousands of what had to have been the most inane email conversations this side of a Minnesota Lutheran Church Circle club. If it was the Russians, at least it kept them from trying to hack my Amazon account for another day.

 

[Handyman]

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I don't get why folks are so mortally scared of them, especially Trump. I don't like either, but neither is the sure end of the USA.

We have this three-legged stool of government, filled with checks and balances put forth in the governing document, The Constitution, of the country to prevent any single branch from becoming too powerful. When those three legs act within their limits and act rightfully to check the other two ... nevermind ...

Yes the GOP is definitely known for acting with checks and balances when they control the Congress and Presidency...

 

[The Sicatoka]

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We've never had a president who literally doesn't believe in checks and balances.

A President may not believe in them, but the other two legs can bring them to reality quickly if they so choose.

I can't believe you'd be this blase about it if the presumptive dictator was coming from the left.

She might be. The other two legs would stop her, or him.

 

[Handyman]

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C'mon. He has to try. You think the USCHO DNC circle jerk is going to post comments on the emails? Personally I think the emails thing is about as significant as the pre-release of the balloons at the convention hall, but you gotta admit that if the shoe were on the other foot we'd have had 200 posts on it already.

I'm just happy the "Russians" decided to waste their time reading thousands of what had to have been the most inane email conversations this side of a Minnesota Lutheran Church Circle club. If it was the Russians, at least it kept them from trying to hack my Amazon account for another day.

If the GOP had been hacked the emails would have said something worth discussing. (like when they retweet stuff...it always is controversial) This crap was like hacking the Rotary Club...

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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A President may not believe in them, but the other two legs can bring them to reality quickly if they so choose.



She might be. The other two legs would stop her, or him.

We haven't had a Democrat President in the 20th or 21st century that hasn't had a majority in at least one house for at least two years. And given the winner of 2016 essentially gets to nominate the 9th Supreme Court justice, complemented with their tendency as of late to "legislate from the bench", the argument doesn't have that much of a chance of holding.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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If it was the Russians, at least it kept them from trying to hack my Amazon account for another day.

Uh ... about that ... did you really buy that, and one of those?

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Yes the GOP is definitely known for acting with checks and balances when they control the Congress and Presidency...

And the Supreme ruled where they were able, where suits were brought. Bush (and Obama) didn't really have sparkling records with Supreme Court rulings.

Better? Don't like Congress? You get to flush out half of it every other year.

 

[Kepler]

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She might be. The other two legs would stop her, or him.

By this argument you could elect an actual psychotic to the presidency, because whenever he got out of line the other branches would check him.

I'd rather have the most powerful executive branch on earth run by somebody who doesn't proudly admit that he thinks compromise, diplomacy and the rule of law are "stupid, weak and for losers."

Charles Murray wrote "Clinton may be unfit to be president, but she’s unfit within normal parameters. Donald Trump is unfit outside normal parameters."

Trump is an extinct-level threat to democracy. The Economist listed him as the third greatest threat to the global economy, and we can already tell how much a threat to global peace he is.

I've loathed candidates before, but I've never feared one until now. I was disgusted by what the US did under Cheney, but I was never afraid of what this country could do until now.

Trump can't just lose. He has to lose so badly that nobody who comes after, from either left or right, tries to follow this Mussolini populist strategy. Most importantly he has to lose so badly that it's obvious he was taken down by people inside his own party -- that they cared enough to choose the country over the sweater.

 

[unofan]

(1) it is part of the reason he lost

No, it isn't. He lost because he never made inroads among minorities or moderates. And he was never close in the popular vote or the pledged delegates.

The optics are horrible, and the DNC probably should've stayed more neutral, but you also have to remember that Bernie wasn't a Democrat until about a month before the coming deadline in New Hampshire. Why would the DNC not support the lifelong member over the outsider?

 

[unofan]

She might be. The other two legs would stop her, or him.

Yeah, yeah, BSABSVR. You're the stereotypical Fark Independent. You may actually cast your vote for Johnson since you're in a non-swing state, but it's obvious who you'd vote for if it had a chance of making a difference.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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Trump is an extinct-level threat to democracy.

The hyperbole coming from all quarters, towards both major party candidates, is just stunning lately.

Maybe we need a really, really, really bad President to get Congress to finally realize that the person at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is just the face. The real power lies within the Congress.

Maybe a bad President will get Congress off their collective, well-shined, rumps and do something.

 

[joecct]

The hyperbole coming from all quarters, towards both major party candidates, is just stunning lately.

Maybe we need a really, really, really bad President to get Congress to finally realize that the person at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is just the face. The real power lies within the Congress.

Maybe a bad President will get Congress off their collective, well-shined, rumps and do something.

I will dissent, in part.

The real power is in the unelected government - the fourth branch if you will. The bureaucracy. They have long terms and have very little checks and balances.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I will dissent, in part.

The real power is in the unelected government - the fourth branch if you will. The bureaucracy. They have long terms and have very little checks and balances.

Yeah, no kidding. Not to mention, they eternally silence members of the other three branches, and use "plausible deniability" to get away with it.

 

[Rover]

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We seem to be missing the point here which is:

DEBBIE WASSERMAN SCHULTZ IS GONE!!!! Read something that the only reason she had been employed this long is because of Obama's indifference to matters like this (a BIG error during his entire Presidency of not paying enough attention to politics). Sanders wanted her gone for reasons already discussed and Clinton thought even back at the beginning of the year that she was a needless distraction but Obama wouldn't make the change.

I have no idea how good or bad Donna Brazile is, but as long as she isn't an embarrassment we're in good shape. Of DWS many problems, an inability to communicate was near the top. Brazile shouldn't have that problem as a talking head on several cable news outlets and I heard Bernie's people preferred her.

Lastly, Kep, give it a rest. Sanders lost because people preferred Clinton. He got smoked by 4M votes. DWS and the DNC couldn't organize a one car funeral.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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I will dissent, in part.

The real power is in the unelected government - the fourth branch if you will. The bureaucracy. They have long terms and have very little checks and balances.

Unfortunately, you'd be correct.
However, the Congress, with power of the purse, could put a halt to that as well. But Congress today spends the vast majority of its time funds-raising for re-election rather than on the people's business.

 

[5mn_Major]

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C'mon. He has to try. You think the USCHO DNC circle jerk is going to post comments on the emails? Personally I think the emails thing is about as significant as the pre-release of the balloons at the convention hall, but you gotta admit that if the shoe were on the other foot we'd have had 200 posts on it already.

I largely disagree.

Trump has no skeletons in his closet? Nothing he's done that is unethical or goes against what he believes in? Are there endless posts on those?

No, I believe that posters here don't really care about specific historical actions that are how things have gotten done. Its not like Trump is planning on purposefully screwing the American people because he did so in business deals. But the focus is on what is being said about their plans, because we don't trust what these politicians want to do with the country (i.e., spend on education or go to war).

 

[Handyman]

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And the Supreme ruled where they were able, where suits were brought. Bush (and Obama) didn't really have sparkling records with Supreme Court rulings.

Better? Don't like Congress? You get to flush out half of it every other year.

And that doesnt happen so lets deal in reality ok?

 

[5mn_Major]

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As the resident socialist extremist Bernie supporter:

(1) it is part of the reason he lost
(2) we already knew "DNC" was a typo for "Hillary 2016"
(3) it doesn't matter; we've got a bigger problem now

All the concern trolling from Reince & Freince isn't going to convince Bernie supporters to cut the nation's throat to spite Hillary.

Experts are saying that the Russians hacked the DNC to get this info. Many are also saying that the Russians are doing so to hurt Hillary's chances in the elections. So again while not his intent, Bernie is yet again being used. Its always important to remember as voters our underlying desires.

 

[The Sicatoka]

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And that doesnt happen so lets deal in reality ok?

So you vote for your incumbent and wonder why nothing ever changes.

< insert definition of insanity here >

 

[Handyman]

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Re: Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

The hyperbole coming from all quarters, towards both major party candidates, is just stunning lately.

Maybe we need a really, really, really bad President to get Congress to finally realize that the person at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue is just the face. The real power lies within the Congress.

Maybe a bad President will get Congress off their collective, well-shined, rumps and do something.

No. Sorry but that is so ignorant I pray you are trolling. You dont elect a Facist to prove a point. (do you give Chemo to fight a cold?) And make no mistakes that is what the clown is. You can false equivocate all you want to, you can pretend it is hyperbole but read what he says and what he wants to do. Pay actual attention, not the faux Independent BS you and some others put forth...the guy is Joe McCarthy with a billion dollars and more people to hate.

Whats funny is we cant get the Right to agree to lists when it comes to guns, but Muslim registry is aok!

I said it before I will say it again...I would rather Dubya get a third term than let Drumpf be President.