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Campaign 2016 Part XV: Before & After: Dancing in the Streets of Philadelphia!

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Trump is the Gom Jabbar for conservatives. If you back him, you fail the test to be a conservative of conscience. You're backing Caesarism over the rule of law and over the American Experiment. If you take one for the team and actively oppose him, despite the partisan hit, you're a true conservative of conscience.

Nobody ever asks about the "when fascism comes to America..." hypothetical, what if it comes in your uniform? It's so easy to oppose it from the other side. It is so easy for me to oppose it. But for conservatives and Republicans the call is coming from inside the house. This is a once in a generation opportunity to demonstrate, to yourself, that all those underlying ideals are real and not just political conveniences.
 
unofan said:
And you felt the need to post this outside of Flaggy's conspiracy theory thread...why?

There's also no truth to the rumor that Congress will declare the sky green. Or rename Kansas to Brownbackistan. Look, I can make up (stuff) too.
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Humor, my dear man, is lost to you. Twas a bit to tweak the probable abysmal turnout we'll have where maybe less than 25% (45% of 50%) of registered voters will actually vote for the winning candidate.
 
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Nothing wrong with the Kaine pick. Of her choices Warren would have been the best but I personally didn't want to see her give up her Senate seat so beyond that no worries.

Read that Trump pulled in a few hundred thousand viewer viewers than Mittens did in 2012 for his convention speech? Makes sense since that's probably the # of RNC viewers who've died between 2012 and 2016 but doesn't bode well for the theory that the Trumpster has found millions of previously undiscovered angry old white guys. :rolleyes:
 
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Rover said:
Nothing wrong with the Kaine pick. Of her choices Warren would have been the best but I personally didn't want to see her give up her Senate seat so beyond that no worries.

Read that Trump pulled in a few hundred thousand viewer viewers than Mittens did in 2012 for his convention speech? Makes sense since that's probably the # of RNC viewers who've died between 2012 and 2016 but doesn't bode well for the theory that the Trumpster has found millions of previously undiscovered angry old white guys. :rolleyes:
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I watched Trump; I didn't watch Romney. A dumpster fire is more interesting than a sermon.

Kaine bespeaks Hillary's pragmatism. She doesn't rob us of a Senate seat and he speaks to VA, PA, OH white male centrists. She is leaving the base to Warren and Bernie to turn out. It's a page right out of Howard Dean's 50-state strategy. It will be fine.

If Trump had picked someone interesting it would have put her on the spot, but he didn't. Pence lets Hillary pick a centrist and still stay comfortably left of the GOP ticket. She loses nobody and strengthens her hold on the center.
 
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Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. This is playing this weekend at my local theater.
 
MaizeRage said:
....that's it? Did you actually read the article before posting that link?
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Interesting that it's Part 1 of a Hillary themed set of releases.

Hypothetically, if the final release comes October 1 and is so ****ing she has to pull out of the race, what's the process then?
 
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cF[Authentic] said:
Interesting that it's Part 1 of a Hillary themed set of releases.

Hypothetically, if the final release comes October 1 and is so ****ing she has to pull out of the race, what's the process then?
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Good luck waiting for Hillary to Godot to jail.
 
Kepler said:
Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. This is playing this weekend at my local theater.
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Seriously Kepler???????

It's Jesus H. Tap Dancing Christ.

Sheesh.

;)

So, I'm getting into a bit of an argument on Facebook with a family friend and diehard Trump supporter. He posted something about Clinton being a liar and I responded how comical it was that all Trump says, and his lemmings copy, is that she's a liar, given that he hasn't uttered anything that has been honest since this began. And that people call him on it and he denies, laughs it off etc. and his lemmings eat it up.

His response: "Are you seriously saying that everything coming out of her mouth isn't a lie?"

I said nice job, making a comment about nothing I said. When did I say that? All politicians lie. The fact that all Trump says is she lies and never back it up when they never look in the mirror is comical.

I really need to stop commenting because it makes me sad and upset.
 
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Scarlet said:
Seriously Kepler???????

It's Jesus H. Tap Dancing Christ.

Sheesh.

;)

So, I'm getting into a bit of an argument on Facebook with a family friend and diehard Trump supporter. He posted something about Clinton being a liar and I responded how comical it was that all Trump says, and his lemmings copy, is that she's a liar, given that he hasn't uttered anything that has been honest since this began. And that people call him on it and he denies, laughs it off etc. and his lemmings eat it up.

His response: "Are you seriously saying that everything coming out of her mouth isn't a lie?"

I said nice job, making a comment about nothing I said. When did I say that? All politicians lie. The fact that all Trump says is she lies and never back it up when they never look in the mirror is comical.

I really need to stop commenting because it makes me sad and upset.
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The question has been asked here several times: What exactly is it about Hillary's policy positions or actions as Senator or SOS that is so objectionable? I've never seen a fact-driven response--just the usual vague character criticisms.
 
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burd said:
The question has been asked here several times: What exactly is it about Hillary's policy positions or actions as Senator or SOS that is so objectionable? I've never seen a fact-driven response--just the usual vague character criticisms.
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She has a D after her name. That drives the zombies crazy.
 
burd said:
The question has been asked here several times: What exactly is it about Hillary's policy positions or actions as Senator or SOS that is so objectionable? I've never seen a fact-driven response--just the usual vague character criticisms.
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We can start with the sale of weapons she approved as SOS after "donations" were made to the Clinton Global Initiative. But hey, that only impacted brown people. Sure millions of refugees have fled the Middle East to resettle in Europe and stretched social services to the breaking point and led to the unrest that led to anti-immigrant sentiment and led directly to the sort of Nationalism that led to Brexit and the rise of men like Donald Trump. But hey, no big deal.

If you want a more domestic example that shows how corrupt she is in a way that hurts white people, look at the bankruptcy Bill. She opposed bankruptcy "reform" originally. Then the banking industry made several generous "donations" to her campaign and, totally by coincidence, she decided to vote for the reform.
 
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Kepler said:
Jesus Tap Dancing Christ. This is playing this weekend at my local theater.
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Written and Directed by convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza. Shocker.

burd said:
The question has been asked here several times: What exactly is it about Hillary's policy positions or actions as Senator or SOS that is so objectionable? I've never seen a fact-driven response--just the usual vague character criticisms.
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She is a politically expedient woman with a heart of iron. White male conservatives hate those types. It's only OK when the members of the Good Ol' Boys Club do it.
 
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Before entering politics, Kaine fought housing discrimination as a civil rights attorney as documented by the Richmond Times-Dispatch. www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/article_a122c78b-7d85-512a-a6de-1f9d5fe313a9.html

Quite a contrast with Trump, who along with his Klansman father, was charged by the DOJ with housing discrimination. Later, he was charged with tenant intimidation. But his kids think he’s a great guy (as did Nixon’s kids, probably Putin’s, too.) Details: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/o...t.html?ref=opinion&comments#commentsContainer
 
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Rogie21 said:
Before entering politics, Kaine fought housing discrimination as a civil rights attorney as documented by the Richmond Times-Dispatch. www.richmond.com/news/virginia/government-politics/article_a122c78b-7d85-512a-a6de-1f9d5fe313a9.html

Quite a contrast with Trump, who along with his Klansman father, was charged by the DOJ with housing discrimination. Later, he was charged with tenant intimidation. But his kids think he’s a great guy (as did Nixon’s kids, probably Putin’s, too.) Details: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/o...t.html?ref=opinion&comments#commentsContainer
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The thinking that Trump might be a racist should really have caught no one paying attention off guard. The problem is most of those people paying attention don't seem to care. With each passing day I am less and less shocked at just how polarized this nation is when it comes to race. Trump could not have succeeded in a nation where most self identifying Republicans firmly rejected racism or bigotry. Then again as a white person I am not allowed to say not every problem faced by the poor blacks in our inner cities is a structural problem, something imposed on them from the outside. I say that and blacks think I am a racist who can't possibly understand. I am reminded of the scene in the movie Crash with Don Cheadle's Detective Graham Waters and William Fichtner's D.A. assistant Flanigan.

George Bush said he's worried he might be the last Republican to be elected president. As an American I am more worried that Donald Trump be be our LAST elected president. Period. Alarmist? Sure. But do you think it would have been alarmist in the 1930s, as the world was spinning out of control in an economic nightmare, if someone would have predicted 60 million people would die in an upcoming conflict? Hillary Clinton -- if elected -- will be a "failed" president. The system won't allow her to be a rousing success. Donald Trump poses a much greater world-wide risk than just being a failed American president.
 
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ticapnews said:
We can start with the sale of weapons she approved as SOS after "donations" were made to the Clinton Global Initiative. But hey, that only impacted brown people. Sure millions of refugees have fled the Middle East to resettle in Europe and stretched social services to the breaking point and led to the unrest that led to anti-immigrant sentiment and led directly to the sort of Nationalism that led to Brexit and the rise of men like Donald Trump. But hey, no big deal.

If you want a more domestic example that shows how corrupt she is in a way that hurts white people, look at the bankruptcy Bill. She opposed bankruptcy "reform" originally. Then the banking industry made several generous "donations" to her campaign and, totally by coincidence, she decided to vote for the reform.
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Both your points are ultimately grounded in allegations of corruption, but at least you bother to tie them to policy choices. What bill or law was the arms sale part of? A budget? (2010 arms sale to Saudi Arabia?). Where can I read about your causation theories?

As to bankruptcy reform, what parts of that law were bad policy? As with the causation theory, what are sources tying her vote change to campaign donations?
 
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ticapnews said:
We can start with the sale of weapons she approved as SOS after "donations" were made to the Clinton Global Initiative. But hey, that only impacted brown people. Sure millions of refugees have fled the Middle East to resettle in Europe and stretched social services to the breaking point and led to the unrest that led to anti-immigrant sentiment and led directly to the sort of Nationalism that led to Brexit and the rise of men like Donald Trump. But hey, no big deal.
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At the risk of you being facetious, that is one bizarro post.

So top donors were Norway, Australia, Saudi Arabia, The Netherlands, Ireland, and Kuwait. And we authorized weapons sales to them? They've been buying our weapons for decades. Did you expect us to suddenly stop selling weapons?

And you're blaming middle east strife, nationalism, and extremism on that? It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that we unilaterally attacked Iraq in the face of global opposition, killing countless thousands, disrupting the middle east balance of power which has given rise to a strengthened and roving AQ...ISIS. Frankly the US and the world has been paying dearly now that the world has changed...the Dems have been left to clean up the mess. And all you can do is walk away with the conclusion that Clinton lied?
 
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