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Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

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Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

The circular firing squad takes aim.

This is amazing. It's as if all the hateful rightwing groups of the last 30 years have entered the Thunderdome. A hundred creeps enter; one creep limps out and is immediately flattened by a semi.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

87 Ted!
83 tDonald
81 ?Johnson
78 Rubio
76 DocCarson
68 Bloomies
57 Kasich
54 Bern
37 ShrillHill

I'm voting for Kasich in the MD primary.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Anybody hear about the unexpected surge in Rubio voters this Super Tuesday?

Yeah, me neither. ;)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Laura Ingraham looks at Drumpf, looks at Rubio, does a double shot of tequila and says "eff it!"

If the Orangutan wins the nomination I think you will see a lot of the Echo Chamber and the non Neo-Cons take a similar stance. This will become the end of the current GOP...the coalition is cracking and Trump is the bomb placed in the San Andreas Fault.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I'm just amazed that it could happen -- the GOP could actually split. Every instinct I have is that it won't -- the adults will stitch it together and they'll happily go hand-in-hand in the general blaming Obama-Hillary for everything from Dutch elm disease to the designated hitter rule. But these guys keep coming out with public statements that are almost impossible to walk back about, essentially, conceding the White House and just concentrating on Congressional races.

How the f-ck is that even supposed to work?

I wonder whether there's just a deeply cynical explanation: when they are out of power these people make a lot more money. Maybe the idea is to be an oppressed minority party so they can just sell more anger?
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I'm going to enjoy watching Fox Cable during a Hillary-Donald contest! Who do they back? A woman who's been a sworn enemy for decades or a guy who's openly mocked their network and one of their most high profile anchors? Is Megyn Kelly or someone sitting next to her going to extol the virtues of Trump in their nightly coverage? Are Ruport Murdoch and Roger Ailes going to pimp a guy who forced them to bow down to his celebrity?

Make no mistake, there's a lot of people on the right who NEED Trump to lose or the gravy train is over. Super PAC's. Right wing media outlets. Billionaires expecting to get their @ ss kissed every election cycle for donations. Know it all pundits. Country club Goopers. Think tanks. Ayn Rand disciples. The bloodletting is going to be brutal. Frankly I'm not sure who benefits from a Trump Presidency aside from maybe Trump. ;)
 
I'm going to enjoy watching Fox Cable during a Hillary-Donald contest! Who do they back? A woman who's been a sworn enemy for decades or a guy who's openly mocked their network and one of their most high profile anchors? Is Megyn Kelly or someone sitting next to her going to extol the virtues of Trump in their nightly coverage? Are Ruport Murdoch and Roger Ailes going to pimp a guy who forced them to bow down to his celebrity?

Make no mistake, there's a lot of people on the right who NEED Trump to lose or the gravy train is over. Super PAC's. Right wing media outlets. Billionaires expecting to get their @ ss kissed every election cycle for donations. Know it all pundits. Country club Goopers. Think tanks. Ayn Rand disciples. The bloodletting is going to be brutal. Frankly I'm not sure who benefits from a Trump Presidency aside from maybe Trump. ;)

Maybe we all benefit if we can create a government that is reaponsible to the people, rather than the people to the government.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

.83 Sanders
.80 Stein
.76 Hillary
.60 Drumpf
.55 Cruz
.44 Rubio/Carson
.39 Kasich

Not sure in agree with this result. Apparently I need to take up smoking pot. :p
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Maybe we all benefit if we can create a government that is reaponsible to the people, rather than the people to the government.

Sign me up Joe. I'm all in favor of having Trump as the GOP nominee....

In other news, nice to see Charlie Pierce spot on again. He threw up a hanging curve last week suggesting that Bernie Sanders is the reason Hillary is paying attention to Black Lives Matter :confused: but looks like he's more clear headed today...

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a42569/super-tuesday/
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Maybe we all benefit if we can create a government that is reaponsible to the people, rather than the people to the government.

I have been reading a lot on Republicanism lately -- nothing to do with the party, but the general philosophical ideas of a res publica; a "thing of the public" perhaps best captured in English by the word "Commonwealth." Republicanism posits that the best form of government is one which derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed, and in which citizenship is the highest virtue. The citizen is responsible for continually striving to better him or herself morally and intellectually, and to place personal benefits secondary to the public good. From classical roots it was developed in the Italian city states and the English dissenting intelligencia before coming to a flowering with the Founders. It is broadly considered to be the dominant ideology of the late colonial and at least the early republican period in American history.

The two great enemies of republicanism are corruption and commercialism, with it being taken as axiomatic that the latter leads invariably to the former. Perhaps what we need is a reinjection of traditional republicanism into our institutions. People are certainly hungry for something, and this something has the advantage of being native to American soil and it had a pretty good track record while it was the dominant philosophy of American elites. It also doesn't necessarily veer either left or right -- it is more of a way of thinking about political issues than a test of outcomes.

Worth a try, anyway. And it would make civics interesting again.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

You know what scares me? Who is Trump going to pick as his running mate?? Because you know he's going to be president for, like, a year, and either something will go horribly wrong or he will decide he doesn't want to do it anymore or something and we'll all be stuck with his VP. I hope his people are steering him towards someone who will actually be able to be reliable and not someone like Sarah Palin.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

You know what scares me? Who is Trump going to pick as his running mate?? Because you know he's going to be president for, like, a year, and either something will go horribly wrong or he will decide he doesn't want to do it anymore or something and we'll all be stuck with his VP. I hope his people are steering him towards someone who will actually be able to be reliable and not someone like Sarah Palin.

I agree with this. God knows who he'll pick.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

90% Bernie (on domestic policy, foreign policy, social, environmental, immigration, healthcare, science, criminal, and electoral issues.)
84% Clinton (on foreign policy, environmental, social, economic, immigration, science, healthcare, criminal, and electoral issues.)
77% Bloomberg (barf)
58% Kasich (on environmental, science, and criminal issues.)
43% Carson (on science* and education ** issues.)
41% Cruz (on science* and education ** issues.)
36% Rubio (on science* and education ** issues.)
30% Trump (on foreign policy*** and education issues**.)

* - This is primarily due to me wanting increased spending for NASA and marking it as "most important"
** - This is due to me saying I don't support common core because my state's standards are higher.
*** - This is because we had a number of "barely" or "partially" similar answers on foreign policy

Detailed answers:
Most important: Science
I side with Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders on most science issues (lol)

More important: Crime
I side with Bernie Sanders on most criminal issues

Somewhat important: Healthcare
I side with Bernie Sanders on most healthcare issues (lol)

Somewhat important: Domestic Policy
I side with Gary Johnson on most domestic policy issues

Somewhat important: Environment
I side with Michael Bloomberg on most environmental issues

Somewhat important: Social
I side with Gary Johnson on most social issues

Somewhat important: Foreign Policy
I side with Jill Stein on most foreign policy issues

Less important: the Economy
I side with Michael Bloomberg on most economic issues

Less important: Immigration
I side with Bernie Sanders on most immigration issues

Less important: Education
I side with Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, and Donald Trump on most education issues (double you tee eff)

Less important: Elections
I side with Gary Johnson, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, and Jill Stein on most electoral issues



Compared to:
Clinton 71
Sanders 69
Bush 55
O'Malley 52
Walker 52
Paul 51
Huckabee 41
Cruz 34
Christie 31
Carson 31
Rubio 30
Santorum 28
Perry 21
Fiorina 11


On 6/16/15:
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.p...-of-the-Good&p=6170588&viewfull=1#post6170588

So that's:
+21% Bernie
+13% Clinton
+6% Rubio
-7% Cruz
-13% Carson
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

87 Ted!
83 tDonald
81 ?Johnson
78 Rubio
76 DocCarson
68 Bloomies
57 Kasich
54 Bern
37 ShrillHill

I'm voting for Kasich in the MD primary.


Ted followed by Donald? If those are the people you agree with most, it might be time for a little internal reflection. There is still time to change.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

* - This is primarily due to me wanting increased spending for NASA and marking it as "most important"

Hey, I did that too. Probably cost me my 100 with Bernie.
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

87 Ted!
83 tDonald

No way. We've had many sane and reasonable conversations. You must have been trolling the test.

I'm not even sure how they match up Drumpf's answers on most policy questions. Either he has no record on an issue at all or he's taken diametrically opposed positions within the last 3 years. Abortion? He's strongly pro-choice AND strongly pro-life, and he's given to Planned Parenthood AND wanted to defund it.

If you match him, maybe it just means you're confused. :)
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

The test is broken. I side the most with "Gary Johnson", who as far as I know isn't a real person, followed by Bernie et al.
 
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