Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

[joecct]

Ted followed by Donald? If those are the people you agree with most, it might be time for a little internal reflection. There is still time to change.

Pro life
Small government
Audit the Fed
Pro death penalty for shocking and heinous crimes
Reform tax code
Legalize pot, then regulate and tax the heck out of it.
Workfare
Stay out of international entanglements

Can't remember the rest

 

[Kepler]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Wait, what?

Is this just Cruz' ex-hatchet man, who is presumably still butthurt, trying to stir up sh-t?

 

[BassAle]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Pro life
Small government
Pro death penalty for shocking and heinous crimes

lol

Thought you were Catholic? death penalty goes against your faith, nor is it "small government" - giving the government the power to kill is hardly "limited government"

It's pretty amusing people that don't trust the government trust it to administer the ultimate penalty fairly and correctly.

 

[St. Clown]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

The test is broken. I side the most with "Gary Johnson", who as far as I know isn't a real person, followed by Bernie et al.

Is your Gary Johnson comment serious? I'm curious if it's really the first time you've heard/seen his name or not.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Paul Ryan just took a shot at Trump about not disavowing the KKK endorsement...another crack is forming.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

not sure if this has been posted yet:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_..._trump_that_s_nuts.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_ru

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I'm going to enjoy watching Fox Cable during a Hillary-Donald contest! Who do they back? A woman who's been a sworn enemy for decades or a guy who's openly mocked their network and one of their most high profile anchors? Is Megyn Kelly or someone sitting next to her going to extol the virtues of Trump in their nightly coverage? Are Ruport Murdoch and Roger Ailes going to pimp a guy who forced them to bow down to his celebrity?

Make no mistake, there's a lot of people on the right who NEED Trump to lose or the gravy train is over. Super PAC's. Right wing media outlets. Billionaires expecting to get their @ ss kissed every election cycle for donations. Know it all pundits. Country club Goopers. Think tanks. Ayn Rand disciples. The bloodletting is going to be brutal. Frankly I'm not sure who benefits from a Trump Presidency aside from maybe Trump.

Faux hates Trump...not a chance they back him. They will dig up as much dirt as they can and hope he is forced to step away.

 

[BassAle]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Paul Ryan just took a shot at Trump about not disavowing the KKK endorsement...another crack is forming.

I think best case right now for the establishment is a brokered convention and the hope that Trump doesn't follow through on the 3rd party threat if that happens.

 

[Handyman]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I think best case right now for the establishment is a brokered convention and the hope that Trump doesn't follow through on the 3rd party threat if that happens.

He is pot committed...his whole persona is based on how awesome he is if the Party screws him his ego (nor his brand) will let him step away. Trump is all in he will be a nominee one way or the other.

 

[geezer]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Is your Gary Johnson comment serious? I'm curious if it's really the first time you've heard/seen his name or not.

Yeah I was mostly serious, vaguely familiar name but I assumed he was a fringe (D) until I looked him up. I don't like him at all but that just tells you about how I relate to the field. He had my highest support with the minimum # of questions at about 80%.

I no longer have any doubt that Trump is going to be destroyed in the general. I am seeing a lot of conservatives speak out very forcefully about ejecting his poison from the marketplace of ideas at the lesser cost of a Hillary presidency. This will be the biggest landslide in history, I doubt Trump wins a single state when it's said and done. Bloomberg might win a couple if he runs.

 

[William Blake]

99 Bernie
96 Stein
93 Hillary
15 Trump
12 Cruz/rubio
5 Carson

Guess I'll have to go to the Colorado caucus tonight, after all. At least if he wins the state it helps Rover breathe some life into his tired "all Sanders supporters are pot heads" joke.

 

[St. Clown]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Yeah I was mostly serious, vaguely familiar name but I assumed he was a fringe (D) until I looked him up. I don't like him at all but that just tells you about how I relate to the field. He had my highest support with the minimum # of questions at about 80%.

I no longer have any doubt that Trump is going to be destroyed in the general. I am seeing a lot of conservatives speak out very forcefully about ejecting his poison from the marketplace of ideas at the lesser cost of a Hillary presidency. This will be the biggest landslide in history, I doubt Trump wins a single state when it's said and done. Bloomberg might win a couple if he runs.

With regards to Johnson, it surprises me as this isn't the first time he's run for POTUS. He was the governor of NM for a term or two, as a mostly centrist candidate with libertarian leanings.

And I agree with you on the test. It said that I most closely aligned with Jeb, but I have no interest in the man whatsoever. Actually, the only interest I have right now is watching the field of candidates still alive burn themselves at the stakes during the debates.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Hey, I did that too. Probably cost me my 100 with Bernie.

The space program did more for technology advancement than anything else in the 20th or 21st centuries.

I want the first person on Mars by 2025.
I want a permanent station on the moon by 2025.
I want a permanent station on Mars by 2035.
I want a person to set foot on a Jovian moon by 2050.

 

[joecct]

lol

Thought you were Catholic? death penalty goes against your faith, nor is it "small government" - giving the government the power to kill is hardly "limited government"

It's pretty amusing people that don't trust the government trust it to administer the ultimate penalty fairly and correctly.

No it doesn't. Check the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I no longer have any doubt that Trump is going to be destroyed in the general. I am seeing a lot of conservatives speak out very forcefully about ejecting his poison from the marketplace of ideas at the lesser cost of a Hillary presidency. This will be the biggest landslide in history, I doubt Trump wins a single state when it's said and done. Bloomberg might win a couple if he runs.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

I don't think it would be the biggest landslide. I really don't. A small, but surprisingly growing number of establishment GOPers have said they would vote for Clinton over Trump. You still have the Tea Party which would, I think, pick up a state or two for Trump. Utah would go Republican unless literally Satan were on the GOP ticket. Even then it would be close. A full 72.79% of voters went for Romney in 2012.

Take a look at this University of Minnesota site (which is a really nice agglomeration of data!)
http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpo...rd-presidential-winning-streaks-in-36-states/
(Wow, that's a fantastic site!)

 

[St. Clown]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

I don't think it would be the biggest landslide. I really don't. A small, but surprisingly growing number of establishment GOPers have said they would vote for Clinton over Trump. You still have the Tea Party which would, I think, pick up a state or two for Trump. Utah would go Republican unless literally Satan were on the GOP ticket. Even then it would be close. A full 72.79% of voters went for Romney in 2012.

Take a look at this University of Minnesota site (which is a really nice agglomeration of data!)
http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpo...rd-presidential-winning-streaks-in-36-states/
(Wow, that's a fantastic site!)

The largely Mormon state that Utah is was going to overwhelmingly vote for the first Mormon presidential candidate to ever make it to the general election regardless of political affiliation.

 

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

The largely Mormon state that Utah is was going to overwhelmingly vote for the first Mormon presidential candidate to ever make it to the general election regardless of political affiliation.

I thought so too until I saw the results from the state. Nine of the last 11 elections they've voted over 60% GOP. Four of the last nine they've voted over 70% GOP.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/compare.php?year=2008&fips=49&f=1&off=0&elect=0&type=state

I think the only EC votes that are more secure are DC's. Eleven of the last 13 elections they've gone 80%+ Dem

 

[leswp1]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

I have been reading a lot on Republicanism lately -- nothing to do with the party, but the general philosophical ideas of a res publica; a "thing of the public" perhaps best captured in English by the word "Commonwealth." Republicanism posits that the best form of government is one which derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed, and in which citizenship is the highest virtue. The citizen is responsible for continually striving to better him or herself morally and intellectually, and to place personal benefits secondary to the public good. From classical roots it was developed in the Italian city states and the English dissenting intelligencia before coming to a flowering with the Founders. It is broadly considered to be the dominant ideology of the late colonial and at least the early republican period in American history.

The two great enemies of republicanism are corruption and commercialism, with it being taken as axiomatic that the latter leads invariably to the former. Perhaps what we need is a reinjection of traditional republicanism into our institutions. People are certainly hungry for something, and this something has the advantage of being native to American soil and it had a pretty good track record while it was the dominant philosophy of American elites. It also doesn't necessarily veer either left or right -- it is more of a way of thinking about political issues than a test of outcomes.

Worth a try, anyway. And it would make civics interesting again.

They don't teach Civics anymore, you are supposed to think for yourself and osmotic-ally know what is best

All I want from this election is for someone to pour liquid on Trump's head so we can see what is under his hair. I know that is thoroughly disrespectful but sheesh- if they are going to throw tomatoes I would much rather see water. OK, back to the serious discussion...

 

[joecct]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

They don't teach Civics anymore, you are supposed to think for yourself and osmotic-ally know what is best

All I want from this election is for someone to pour liquid on Trump's head so we can see what is under his hair. I know that is thoroughly disrespectful but sheesh- if they are going to throw tomatoes I would much rather see water. OK, back to the serious discussion...

Going for the Margaret Hamilton solution?

 

[geezer]

Re: Campaign 2016 - in bridge, the trump cards are really wild.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

I don't think it would be the biggest landslide. I really don't. A small, but surprisingly growing number of establishment GOPers have said they would vote for Clinton over Trump. You still have the Tea Party which would, I think, pick up a state or two for Trump. Utah would go Republican unless literally Satan were on the GOP ticket. Even then it would be close. A full 72.79% of voters went for Romney in 2012.

Take a look at this University of Minnesota site (which is a really nice agglomeration of data!)
http://editions.lib.umn.edu/smartpo...rd-presidential-winning-streaks-in-36-states/
(Wow, that's a fantastic site!)

You're right, I forgot about the Mormons. I was trying to think of what southern state would still vote Trump if the evangelicals get turned full-bore against him, and I forgot Utah.