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Campaign 2016 - A Trump l'oeil? Kepler's Laws of Election Motions? Ship of Fools?

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joecct said:
I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, declare under penalty of perjury that the following is true and correct:

1. While I do not know what information may be “responsive” for purposes of this law suit, I have directed that all my e-mails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records to be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.
2. As a result of my directive, approximately 55,000 pages of these emails were produced to the Department on December 5, 2014.
3. Cheryl Mills did not have an account on clintonemail.com. Huma Abedin did have such an account which was used at times for government business.

Parse this for where perjury is not perjury.
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Oh GOP. Never change.

2004: Swift Boat
2008: Jeremiah Wright
2012: Death Panels
2016: BENGHAZI!!11!
 
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This Benghazi thing needs to go away.
 
joecct said:
I, Hillary Rodham Clinton, declare under penalty of perjury that the following is true and correct:

1. While I do not know what information may be “responsive” for purposes of this law suit, I have directed that all my e-mails on clintonemail.com in my custody that were or potentially were federal records to be provided to the Department of State, and on information and belief, this has been done.
2. As a result of my directive, approximately 55,000 pages of these emails were produced to the Department on December 5, 2014.
3. Cheryl Mills did not have an account on clintonemail.com. Huma Abedin did have such an account which was used at times for government business.

Parse this for where perjury is not perjury.
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Ken Starr. Paging Ken Starr, you have a call on line 1!
 
Re: Campaign 2016 - A Trump l'oeil? Kepler's Laws of Election Motions? Ship of Fools

Kepler said:
Oh GOP. Never change.

2004: Swift Boat
2008: Jeremiah Wright
2012: Death Panels
2016: BENGHAZI!!11!
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Not a very good list. 2004's Swift Boat campaign worked and gave us 4 more years of the worst Presidency in US History.
 
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Kepler said:
Which is why Trump should have completely cleaned up this week. The right loves a victim -- the wingnut model at this point is to grift a living off victimhood while all the while decrying victimhood -- it's a perfect scam. But he screwed the pooch by attacking Kelly.
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Kep, buddy, your political senses haven't been this off since you predicted that Scott Brown over Lizzy Warren election :D (now before you take a fit, I'm just kidding).

However, take a look at THIS!

New York magazine: “Now, it appears both sides want peace. This morning, Trump tweeted that Ailes called to assure him that Fox will cover him ‘fairly’ going forward. According to two high-level Fox sources, Ailes’s diplomacy was the result of increasing concern inside Fox News that Trump could damage the network. Immediately following Thursday’s debate, Fox was deluged with pro-Trump emails. The chatter on Twitter was equally in Trump’s favor.”

Said one Fox News source: “In the beginning, virtually 100 percent of the emails were against Megyn Kelly. Roger was not happy. Most of the Fox viewers were taking Trump’s side.”

“Things got worse for Ailes over the weekend. In a phone conversation, Trump told Sean Hannity that ‘he was never doing Fox again,’ according to one person with knowledge of the call. The anti-Kelly emails, and threat of a boycott by Trump, seem to have pushed Ailes to defuse the war.”


Basically you're thinking with the wrong head! What most Fox viewers want to do with Megyn Kelly has nothing to do with "respect" for her feelings. :eek: This truth isn't that hard to figure out, no pun intended....

Here's more:

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/dont-write-trumps-obit-yet-121232.html#ixzz3iTIAtgfm

Can pundidiots continually be more wrong about the guy? Since when do conservatives care about 1) disparaging war heroes (see Kerry, John) or 2) Anti-woman rhetoric? I haven't laughed this hard over a political event since John Roberts astroglided Fresh Fish for a second time on the ACA ruling!
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Not a very good list. 2004's Swift Boat campaign worked and gave us 4 more years of the worst Presidency in US History.
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Hillary : Kerry :: Saber toothed tiger : Field mouse

Bring it on.
 
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Rover said:
I haven't laughed this hard over a political event since John Roberts astroglided Fresh Fish for a second time on the ACA ruling!
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Now that's an image I could have lived without.
 
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FNC has always had a tiger by the tail: they created an entire generation of viewers who equate anything that doesn't fit their hermetically sealed worldview as "biased." These are people who believe that science is biased because it doesn't agree with their Iron Age magic book or their corporate puppeteers' propaganda. Simply, Fox trained them that wishing makes it so.

And now Fox is saying things they don't agree with. Obvious conclusion: Fox is liberal now. :p :p :p

It won't last, but if it did it couldn't happen to a nicer group of cannibals. 70% of the country knows Fox News is just E! for a dumber audience (think about that), but the other 30% turning on them would be a delicious irony.
 
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Kepler said:
FNC has always had a tiger by the tail: they created an entire generation of viewers who equate anything that doesn't fit their hermetically sealed worldview as "biased." These are people who believe that science is biased because it doesn't agree with their Iron Age magic book or their corporate puppeteers' propaganda. Simply, Fox trained them that wishing makes it so.

And now Fox is saying things they don't agree with. Obvious conclusion: Fox is liberal now. :p :p :p

It won't last, but if it did it couldn't happen to a nicer group of cannibals. 70% of the country knows Fox News is just E! for a dumber audience (think about that), but the other 30% turning on them would be a delicious irony.
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A lot of people misread Fox. Fox didn't cause people to be conservative. Murdoch sensed an opportunity to market to a certain group of people after seeing right wing talk radio take off and he fashioned a network to cater to them. Now he needs to make the network even more conspiracy based and paranoid if he wants to keep his viewers! Perhaps he will...

Regarding Megyn Kelly, while I'm not drooling over her while the TV is on mute like Kep ;) (I mean, its not like she's doing the show in a bikini) I will once again give her credit for being the ONLY lamestream media person who will ask tough questions of leading Republicans. Name me one other person of the Weaselopolous/Chuckles Todd/the late Tim Russert/Dinosaur Bob Schieffer/Wolf/etc who would tell Dick Cheney to his face "haven't you been wrong about everything in regards to Iraq" or however she phrased it. They'd all be too afraid of being accused of bias. Also, had Karl Rove tried to uncall the 2012 elections on CNN instead of Fox, they would have uncalled the election instead of having her humiliate him on national TV, which took some skill on her part.
 
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Rover said:
A lot of people misread Fox. Fox didn't cause people to be conservative.
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Fox did not make people conservative. Fox made conservatives stupid and lazy.
 
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Kepler said:
It won't last, but if it did it couldn't happen to a nicer group of cannibals. 70% of the country knows Fox News is just E! for a dumber audience (think about that), but the other 30% turning on them would be a delicious irony.
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Its funny you always mention Fox, is MSNBC, CNBC, CBS, ABC, Etc etc for rocket scientists.? Aren't all television news programs made for 60 second attention spans?
 
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walrus said:
Its funny you always mention Fox, is MSNBC, CNBC, CBS, ABC, Etc etc for rocket scientists.? Aren't all television news programs made for 60 second attention spans?
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They're not all equal. Fox is special because they never let facts get in the way of message. The comparable show for the left is MSNBC, but even that has sentient beings like Maddow.

The only apt comparison for Fox I've seen is RT.
 
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walrus said:
Its funny you always mention Fox, is MSNBC, CNBC, CBS, ABC, Etc etc for rocket scientists.? Aren't all television news programs made for 60 second attention spans?
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Wally, you are correct. Fox/ABC/NBC/CBS/CNN/NYT/WashPost/etc = all ***** all the time. There are places to go for quality reporting (The Economist, NPR, some PBS shows like Frontline) and some columnists (Charlie Pierce political commentary is brilliant) but the lamestream media isn't called that for nothing, and the huge decline in ratings isn't just because people can access news on the internet. The quality is long, long gone.
 
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Last time I saw Maddow (and I haven't had cable for over a year), she'd become a parody of herself.

Kelly only has a primetime show and gets away with asking "tough" questions because she's attractive and popular. Once her ratings start to dip, Fox won't tolerate her deviations from the party line anymore.
 
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Maddow is unwatchable now. Spends more time mentally fondling herself than actual journalism. I still like Lawrence O'Donnell though.
 
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