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ticapnews said:
Never say never. It took a few generations but people abandoned baseball. Boxing too. (Without Googling, anyone know the current heavyweight champ? I don't)
Football has become a behemoth but it can revert back to what it was 60 years ago.
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Basketball is well on its way.

TBH, boxing was only ever as big as Ali. Before him it was for deadbeat crooks and suckers like horseracing, and it cratered right back to that after. The NBA came up with Bird and went out with Jordan. Golf was Tiger. Hockey was Gretz and it was still hopelessly obscure, thank god.

The NFL will wind up stabilizing like they did, like MLB is. Of all of our monster sports I can see only CFB remaining cross-national and cross-class and then maybe someday soccer if like fusion and flying cars it ever actually works.
 
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Apple is paying MLS $2.5 billion ($250 million x 10) for their rights to stream matches, I have to imagine MLB/NBA/NHL could get a good amount of coin for something similar.
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Eventually, but it all been set up locally by individual teams before now. That's where the snag will be for a while. That, and their ****head blackout zones.
 
ticapnews said:
Never say never. It took a few generations but people abandoned baseball. Boxing too. (Without Googling, anyone know the current heavyweight champ? I don't)
Football has become a behemoth but it can revert back to what it was 60 years ago.
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Baseball is boring for the youth and boxing was a slow death for years. College and pro football will be huge for our lifetimes.
 
Handyman said:
Baseball is boring for the youth and boxing was a slow death for years. College and pro football will be huge for our lifetimes.
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Like I said, generations. My grandfather would never have believed football and baseball would be where they are today.
 
Handyman said:
Baseball is boring for the youth and boxing was a slow death for years. College and pro football will be huge for our lifetimes.
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College football will be regional in 25 years. High School football is shrinking in Michigan because of concussions and other injuries, and I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case in other parts outside the southeast.
 
Boxing was more than just Ali and his contemporaries because of guys like Leonard, Hearns, Hagler, Camacho, Duran, Chavez, De La Hoya, Hopkins, Mayweather Sr, but I haven't paid attention to any of it since Tyson jumped the shark.
 
Kepler said:
Basketball is well on its way.

TBH, boxing was only ever as big as Ali. Before him it was for deadbeat crooks and suckers like horseracing, and it cratered right back to that after. The NBA came up with Bird and went out with Jordan. Golf was Tiger. Hockey was Gretz and it was still hopelessly obscure, thank god.

The NFL will wind up stabilizing like they did, like MLB is. Of all of our monster sports I can see only CFB remaining cross-national and cross-class and then maybe someday soccer if like fusion and flying cars it ever actually works.
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Soccer is already there, it's just very fragmented between the various leagues and competitions.
 
Workers at a Trader Joe's in Louisville voted 48 to 36 in favor of unionizing. They overcame the company's anti-union campaign to become the third TJ's in the country to unionize after stores in Massachusetts and Minneapolis. At a Brooklyn store the vote failed.

Of special importance since it was in Jesusf-ckistan.
 
Very few American companies are in favor of unionization. I can't think of any.

Because we're insane and allow our well-dressed sociopaths to become CEOs
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Very few American companies are in favor of unionization. I can't think of any.

Because we're insane and allow our well-dressed sociopaths to become CEOs
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One of our local Randians used to spew anti-union garbage here. The level of self-delusion on the Right is comical. And it is the very people who would benefit the most who are so dead set against workers' rights. Brainwashing is a wonderous thing.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Very few American companies are in favor of unionization. I can't think of any.

Because we're insane and allow our well-dressed sociopaths to become CEOs
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If you get into the trades, like say plumbing or electrical contractors, you'll find quite a few companies that really like unions. For their work, it gives them a number of advantages.

First, flexibility. They can bid on a job where they're going to need 15 guys. If they get it, great, they call the union and demand they send the 15 guys. If they don't get it, they don't have a bunch of guys making $75/hour sitting around on the payroll doing nothing.

Second, human resources. If they get someone who turns out to be an idiot, or doesn't show up for work, or whatever, they don't have to spend their time doing human resources crap. They just send them back to the union and tell the union not to have that person show up again to their worksite, and the union sends out a replacement.
 
SJHovey said:
If you get into the trades, like say plumbing or electrical contractors, you'll find quite a few companies that really like unions. For their work, it gives them a number of advantages.

First, flexibility. They can bid on a job where they're going to need 15 guys. If they get it, great, they call the union and demand they send the 15 guys. If they don't get it, they don't have a bunch of guys making $75/hour sitting around on the payroll doing nothing.

Second, human resources. If they get someone who turns out to be an idiot, or doesn't show up for work, or whatever, they don't have to spend their time doing human resources crap. They just send them back to the union and tell the union not to have that person show up again to their worksite, and the union sends out a replacement.
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Fair enough.

I guess I'm thinking corporations. The company I work for has very large staffs for trades. Only two sites are union.
 
dxmnkd316 said:
Very few American companies are in favor of unionization. I can't think of any.

Because we're insane and allow our well-dressed sociopaths to become CEOs
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When my brother started his commercial HVAC company, he and his business partner insisted upon opening as a union shop. In a field like that, it guarantees a minimum of knowledge, and it removes haggling over wages and benefits coordination.

ETA: I get what you’re saying, but the smaller players in semi-trained labor markets are far more labor friendly.
 
St. Clown said:
When my brother started his commercial HVAC company, he and his business partner insisted upon opening as a union shop. In a field like that, it guarantees a minimum of knowledge, and it removes haggling over wages and benefits coordination.

ETA: I get what you’re saying, but the smaller players in semi-trained labor markets are far more labor friendly.
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Yeah, definite oversight on my part.
 
Kepler said:
Workers at a Trader Joe's in Louisville voted 48 to 36 in favor of unionizing. They overcame the company's anti-union campaign to become the third TJ's in the country to unionize after stores in Massachusetts and Minneapolis. At a Brooklyn store the vote failed.

Of special importance since it was in Jesusf-ckistan.
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TBF, Louisville has to have one of the largest union shops in the country. UPS has their major hub there and most of the workers are unionized.
 
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