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Business, Economics, and Taxes: Capitalism. Yay? >=(

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Part of the issue is people from outside the union world see random, singular events that make ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE and then apply that logic to unions as a whole.

Example: Several people I know over the years have commented on how the IBEW (Electrician's Union) works up at the McCormick Place convention center. Basically you need a Union Electrician to do anything related to electricity. This includes benign tasks like moving electrical cords on the floor so you don't trip and plugging ANYTHING into or out of an outlet. Many times people have to wait an extended period of time before a union guy comes over and does the literal two second task.

Stuff like that is what puts unions as a whole in a bad light. Those situations are blown up and made to go viral.
 
Old (not) joke: how many IATSE electricians does it take to change a light bulb?

5, and it takes them 4 hours. One guy to hold each leg of the ladder, one to change the bulb, and the minimum call is 4 hours.

A common practice to reduce operating cost was to hang 2 lights in each place where one is needed, then wait to call in the crew until enough bulbs had blown that they actually had 4 hours worth of work.
 
RaceBoarder said:
Part of the issue is people from outside the union world see random, singular events that make ABSOLUTELY ZERO SENSE and then apply that logic to unions as a whole.

Example: Several people I know over the years have commented on how the IBEW (Electrician's Union) works up at the McCormick Place convention center. Basically you need a Union Electrician to do anything related to electricity. This includes benign tasks like moving electrical cords on the floor so you don't trip and plugging ANYTHING into or out of an outlet. Many times people have to wait an extended period of time before a union guy comes over and does the literal two second task.

Stuff like that is what puts unions as a whole in a bad light. Those situations are blown up and made to go viral.
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There’s a myriad of reasons but they boil down to about two:

1. Liability protection. You plug something into an outlet, it goes haywire, you get electrocuted and decide to sue. Well, pretty easy defense of “we told you not to do it.”

2. Job protection. Contract says they handle anything in the building with electric and wiring so it’s not your fucking job. And the problem, especially in our capitalist system, is if you give an inch, the bosses will absolutely take a mile. If they let people plug in their own cords without a change in the contract wording, then what else can be ignored? Yeah, it’s ridiculous, but don’t blame the union for protecting their jobs.

(A lot of this probably doesn’t make sense to people who have zero clue about working in a union and having a CBA and it’s work rules but, to someone like me who does, it makes perfect sense.)
 
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There’s a myriad of reasons but they boil down to about two:

1. Liability protection. You plug something into an outlet, it goes haywire, you get electrocuted and decide to sue. Well, pretty easy defense of “we told you not to do it.”

2. Job protection. Contract says they handle anything in the building with electric and wiring so it’s not your fucking job. And the problem, especially in our capitalist system, is if you give an inch, the bosses will absolutely take a mile. If they let people plug in their own cords without a change in the contract wording, then what else can be ignored? Yeah, it’s ridiculous, but don’t blame the union for protecting their jobs.

(A lot of this probably doesn’t make sense to people who have zero clue about working in a union and having a CBA and it’s work rules but, to someone like me who does, it makes perfect sense.)
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So how do you sell someone who isn't involved in a Union environment on the idea of needing someone to be paid $50+ per hour to plug in the power cord for the monitor that will be showing the booth's video?

Also, how do you quell the stories of the "bad apple" union employees who take advantage of everyone else being dependent on them? I'm talking about stuff like saying something that ticked off Jeff for whatever reason, so now your convention booth is now at the bottom of the TO DO list... Cause those are indeed a very real thing in this deal. Unfortunately it shows that the "Union Stereotype" does have it's origins in some truth...

That's more of where I was going with this.
 
FadeToBlack&Gold said:
*Successful millionaire cartoonist for 30+ years gets dropped by 100 newspapers, out of the thousands that still print his tired, has-been shtick*

"WHY AM I BEING CANCELED?!?!"

Someone tell Scott Adams to go listen to WOLD. They prefer the young sound, dude.
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West Omaha Library Department?

I am so out of it...
 
Fox News won't let me see articles unless I disable my ad blocker.

So, I guess I won't be bothering with that garbage site anymore.





Drat.
 
Can someone explain to me like I'm five how inflation is continually calculated? Like, media (and GOP) tout an 8% inflation rate, and have for almost a year, meanwhile, month over month, certain items were shown to have zero (or relatively zero) inflation to them (ie: three months of falling gas prices).

Like, if it's a rolling average, shouldnt inflation be leveling off?

And for everyone trumpeting the 8% inflation, are they forgetting how everything being shutdown in 2020 made inflation 0% or negative?
 
It’s calculated over 12 months. So July 2022 is compared to July 2021. August 2022 compared to August 2021.

If you line the months up on a graph, the increase in inflation is plateauing, but when the new monthly report comes out, it’s going to be reported as prices being x% more than this month last year.
 
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It’s calculated over 12 months. So July 2022 is compared to July 2021. August 2022 compared to August 2021.

If you line the months up on a graph, the increase inflation is plateauing, but when the new monthly report comes out, it’s going to be reported as prices being x% more than this month last year.
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Thank you.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
It’s calculated over 12 months. So July 2022 is compared to July 2021. August 2022 compared to August 2021.

If you line the months up on a graph, the increase in inflation is plateauing, but when the new monthly report comes out, it’s going to be reported as prices being x% more than this month last year.
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Which also means at some point we'll catch up with the big jump last fall and the YoY increases will not be as significant.
 
Capitalism:

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