BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

[Gainzo]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

The scoreboard will be changed next summer. There is is talk that an arena "ribbon" will be installed sometime during the semester break. When completed, it will have a similar feel to Agganis.

Jim Prior was a fill-in for the regular announcer who was absent due to a prior commitment.

Great ovation in the 1st intermission for the ceremonial signing of the Tsongas Arena over to the University. I have full faith in Marty in that he will at least get us a functional scoreboard and sound system.

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

what i'd like to see is a replay of the no-goal. i've seen nothing but conflicting reports.

As would I. Maybe this time next year UML will have a video scoreboard to help this debate

yup. bulldog had the right wing and was coming right at me on a clear scoring chance. when you take the guy out there, and even if it's close, it's getting called.

I agree, even when the refs for the most part "put their whistles away" there are plays that either are extremely dangerous or golden scoring opportunities that must be called. Had that penalty not been called there wouldn't have been much, short of one pulling out a rifle on the ice, that they would have been justified in calling

However, I thought you guys were loud and had a lot of energy. As boring as your cheers might be, at least your section YELLS the cheers. BU student section has become complacent and programmed, sorry to say. Too many BU students just mumble the cheers and half-azz whatever motions are supposed to accompany the cheer.

The students are too programmed, but also don't do enough of whatever motions are supposed to accompany specific cheers? Seems a wee bit contradictory. I wouldn't say the students are perfect or the best in the nation, but having fun watching their team play is IMO the most important thing. New traditions that result in specific motions or anything else, more times than not come from one fan having an extremely fun time and others joining in.

My problem with the trip call was that the refs had put the whistles away. The 4th goal for BU occurred after a horrendous non-call against BU in their defensive zone when they dragged a UML player to the ground. No call, boom goal. Whatever, they put the whistles away.

The penalty in OT was predicated on another SLEW of non-calls in the BU defense end. Lowell controlled the puck down low and fought through numerous hooks, holdings and trips. Whatever, whistles are away.

You make a more reasonable point. I could see, by the book, many more penalties being called late in the game on both teams than were called, however I don't think any were as visible or in as good of a scoring opportunity as the one in OT that was called was. Even if the refs have stopped calling many minor infractions that doesn't mean that as a defender you can do whatever you want to prevent an attacker from getting to the net.

i talked to several people that said it hit either the lowell player's arm or shinpad. the word "skate" never came up.

The fact that you talked to people who said it hit is arm and did not see enough with your own eyes to refute that tells me a lot.

Let all the BU fans give me crap but I feel Lowell is the best team in Hockey East.

As you should, this is early in the season you have a great team and are returning virtually everyone, if you were telling me you were already convinced Lowell wasn't going to finish first I'd call you a pessimist.

lowell fans = less class than usual tonight. shame on you.

There were a lot more fans than usual though, it's generally the new kids who want to start the more vulgar chants, once they realize who they represent and begin to really care about the success of their program the problem may start to rectify itself.

 

[UMLGoon]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

The fact that you talked to people who said it hit is arm and did not see enough with your own eyes to refute that tells me a lot.

i was at the complete opposite end of the rink and there was a bit of a crowd in front of goal, you'll recall. i was screened, as they say.

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

i was at the complete opposite end of the rink and there was a bit of a crowd in front of goal, you'll recall. i was screened, as they say.

i'd wager a decent amount of money they didn't [get the goal call right]

Those who have no idea whether the puck was on the ice or 4 feet in the air yet still are willing to wager decent amounts of money on a single event are generally either compulsive gamblers or biased to the point where they can no longer think straight.

I don't know you well enough to know if you fit into either of these categories. But at the bare minimum you might want to put the money you're willing to gamble towards more expensive seats that have a better view of the entire rink

 

[slurpees]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

What's most apparent here is that some Lowell fans continually look to place blame elsewhere for every thing that goes wrong that contributes to a loss. This call was bad, that penalty wasn't called, I talked to a guy who said the puck went off his chest. Excuse after excuse. It's a shame that you waste your time sitting at your computer whining about everything the other team or the refs did that supposedly was the reason you lost. I read through that blog of yours and it's more of the same - excuse after excuse. Paragraph after paragraph about conspiracy theories, rule book assessing and Marxian social class theories (you are aware the bourgeoisie was the middle class, right? you know, the ones that were merchants who employed the proletariat? so you choose to illustrate your supposed war between the top 3 schools of HE and the bottom 7 with a Communist Manifesto purported lower class vs. middle class struggle? the correct social class comparison would be the clergy/royalty of the First and Second Estates vs. the Third Estate bourgeoisie or the proletariat. your metaphor more aptly describes a struggle between northeastern and merrimack, but I digress.) it's gotten to the point where the sarcasm has little merit as sarcasm because its encased in so many excuses and outrageous reasoning. its the same story everytime Lowell loses - Hutton got injured and Massie blew the game, so it's not our fault; Hamilton got injured and Hutton came in cold and allowed a 3rd period PP goal on a bad call, so it's not our fault; we played well but the refs blew the call on the goal that would've tied it, so it's not our fault; the refs disallowed a goal that should've counted even though we didn't see it and they selectively made penalty calls in OT that lead to the GWG, so it's not our fault.

some need to quit the whining and take a good look at your team's performance on the ice. here's the real reason you lost tonight - it's not benedetto, a penalty in OT or the shooter on the grassy knoll. your 28% PP went 0 for 6 including 4 in a row in the 2nd period including a 4 on 3. you couldn't convert here and put BU way back on its heels with your crowd behind you. you had a lead for 4 minutes in the 2nd and beginning of the third after blowing PP after PP. this is the main reason you lost. one line in your blog or a passing comment or two in a post on here do not make up for the hoards of excuses that fly nonstop. officials do not cause one team to win or lose, if you think this is true you have a lot to learn about sports; teams win or lose games based on their ability to convert opportunities that arise. your team did not do that enough tonight and this is why you did not get the W.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Great ovation in the 1st intermission for the ceremonial signing of the Tsongas Arena over to the University. I have full faith in Marty in that he will at least get us a functional scoreboard and sound system.

I walked in the building, heard the signing was on and had a very bad feeling. When we opened the Tsongas we lost to Dartmouth. Doing this stuff during a game is bad Mojo- no good JuJu.

As to the BU fans being not as good/atmosphere wise- I really think that when a fan base is in an arena for a long time it gets a life of its own. Change the arena in anyway- you stir that up, move folks around and you mess up the dynamic. People end up taking a long time to rebuild that. The only place that I haven't seen that is when they changed rinks at UNH- but then there is nothing else to do there

 

[gochiefs]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

From section B it looked like it hit the shinpads. The pass, if you can call it a pass, was really moving and about a foot or more off the ice. The Lowell player appeared to be moving towards the net when it hit him. I didn't see a kicking motion but the Ref's were doing it when explaining the call to Blaise.
I just hope they got it right.

I was in Section Q down real close to the ice. The puck hit around the knee. The players leg was off the ice when the puck hit him. There was no "kicking motion" to direct the puck into the net but the call was that he "directed the puck with his leg.

 

[Patronick]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

c) lowell fans = less class than usual tonight. shame on you.

Lots of new fans and/or freshman. They'll learn sooner or later. Here's hoping it's sooner.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

I got very lucky- every time they yelled the BS cheer (which was way too often) we had a moronic BU fan in the next row back who would start yelling back at the students all sorts of expletive laced crud about how they were the national champions, etc. Have another beer bud. Weird guy- was sitting by himself and just trying to pick a verbal fight the whole game with the guys who were next to him. If he said anything at all amusing all would have been good but the mentality was on the level of a teenager (with a little salt and pepper beard).

I too hope they lose the sucks and BS chants. I admit I was a bit amused by the FU-BU chant in an infantile way but I would love to see something that is unique to Lowell.

 

[Patronick]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

What's most apparent here is that some Lowell fans continually look to place blame elsewhere for every thing that goes wrong that contributes to a loss. This call was bad, that penalty wasn't called, I talked to a guy who said the puck went off his chest. Excuse after excuse. It's a shame that you waste your time sitting at your computer whining about everything the other team or the refs did that supposedly was the reason you lost. I read through that blog of yours and it's more of the same - excuse after excuse. Paragraph after paragraph about conspiracy theories, rule book assessing and Marxian social class theories (you are aware the bourgeoisie was the middle class, right? you know, the ones that were merchants who employed the proletariat? so you choose to illustrate your supposed war between the top 3 schools of HE and the bottom 7 with a Communist Manifesto purported lower class vs. middle class struggle? the correct social class comparison would be the clergy/royalty of the First and Second Estates vs. the Third Estate bourgeoisie or the proletariat. your metaphor more aptly describes a struggle between northeastern and merrimack, but I digress.) it's gotten to the point where the sarcasm has little merit as sarcasm because its encased in so many excuses and outrageous reasoning. its the same story everytime Lowell loses - Hutton got injured and Massie blew the game, so it's not our fault; Hamilton got injured and Hutton came in cold and allowed a 3rd period PP goal on a bad call, so it's not our fault; we played well but the refs blew the call on the goal that would've tied it, so it's not our fault; the refs disallowed a goal that should've counted even though we didn't see it and they selectively made penalty calls in OT that lead to the GWG, so it's not our fault.

some need to quit the whining and take a good look at your team's performance on the ice. here's the real reason you lost tonight - it's not benedetto, a penalty in OT or the shooter on the grassy knoll. your 28% PP went 0 for 6 including 4 in a row in the 2nd period including a 4 on 3. you couldn't convert here and put BU way back on its heels with your crowd behind you. you had a lead for 4 minutes in the 2nd and beginning of the third after blowing PP after PP. this is the main reason you lost. one line in your blog or a passing comment or two in a post on here do not make up for the hoards of excuses that fly nonstop. officials do not cause one team to win or lose, if you think this is true you have a lot to learn about sports; teams win or lose games based on their ability to convert opportunities that arise. your team did not do that enough tonight and this is why you did not get the W.

I'm not going to read this entire wall of what I imagine is total drivel, but just because you want to skate over the fact that Lowell got screwed on a non-call for the second straight game (by the same official) and that Lowell suddenly got called for a penalty after BU got away with assault a minute before doesn't change the fact that it happened.

That having been said, as I wrote earlier, a team can't expect to win giving up odd man rushes, soft goals and short handed goals. It's as simple as that. Fix the mistakes and come back tonight playing hard. I'm a little (with emphasis on little) encouraged that Lowell lost a very close, OT game despite spotting BU some cupcake goals in a mistake filled game...but Lowell has to take care of business tonight.

 

[Scarlet]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

I'm not going to read this entire wall of what I imagine is total drivel, but just because you want to skate over the fact that Lowell got screwed on a non-call for the second straight game (by the same official) and that Lowell suddenly got called for a penalty after BU got away with assault a minute before doesn't change the fact that it happened.

slurpees point proven!

Also, I walked around the concourse to re-check the Hobey Baker banner to see if it distinguished the fact that they were Div II winners, and it does not, so yes, it's misleading. Not saying it's incorrect as they obviously won something. Do they not award that any more? I checked the Hobey site and there was no mention of awarding anything other than the award for Div I.

One more thing - Go Blue? There are already two schools in Hockey East that use that, and their colors are just blue. I think you guys are doing a lots of good things from a fanbase development and sports marketing perspective, but I think this is probably not the best move. Especially since the school's color scheme has so much red in it.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

slurpees point proven!

Also, I walked around the concourse to re-check the Hobey Baker banner to see if it distinguished the fact that they were Div II winners, and it does not, so yes, it's misleading. Not saying it's incorrect as they obviously won something. Do they not award that any more? I checked the Hobey site and there was no mention of awarding anything other than the award for Div I.

One more thing - Go Blue? There are already two schools in Hockey East that use that, and their colors are just blue. I think you guys are doing a lots of good things from a fanbase development and sports marketing perspective, but I think this is probably not the best move. Especially since the school's color scheme has so much red in it.

They were Hobey Winners. Why should we need to defend that or try and qualify it? Obviously they don't award it anymore- there is no DivII hockey.

We were Blue before (showing my age). The Blue Fan Group started yrs ago and the shirts in some form have been around forever. There just weren't as many of them. We are switching back to Blue sometime soon (maybe next yr).

 

[Rover]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Goes to show what I've been saying all along. Lowell is a low rent school with low rent fans in a low rent city. What else would you expect. Tonight out of BU you saw the heart of champion, coming into the home arena of team jacked up on righteous indignation over last year's HE championship loss....and BU smoked them in their own arena. The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess....

 

[Jon]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Goes to show what I've been saying all along. Lowell is a low rent school with low rent fans in a low rent city. What else would you expect. Tonight out of BU you saw the heart of champion, coming into the home arena of team jacked up on righteous indignation over last year's HE championship loss....and BU smoked them in their own arena. The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess....

And I thought your political commentary was over the top!

 

[Scarlet]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

They were Hobey Winners. Why should we need to defend that or try and qualify it? Obviously they don't award it anymore- there is no DivII hockey.

Your national championship banners qualify it. The Hobey banner should as well. Because it's misleading to say otherwise, especially for the DI winners from those years.

 

[Jon]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Your national championship banners qualify it. The Hobey banner should as well. Because it's misleading to say otherwise, especially for the DI winners from those years.

Next time I'm at Tsongas, I'll bring a giant ladder and a permanent marker.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

And I thought your political commentary was over the top!

I was thinking the same thing. I guess there are only 2 speeds in that brain- overdrive and idle.

I don't think smoked would be an adjective anyone would use for who ever won that game in overtime. It was a good, tight game with 2 good teams. Bad outcome for us but certainly not a 'smoking'.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Your national championship banners qualify it. The Hobey banner should as well. Because it's misleading to say otherwise, especially for the DI winners from those years.

Um it isn't misleading us. Those banners (or their original forms) have been around since I started going 25 yrs ago. Why should we be apologist about it I doubt the DI winners would give a hoot.

This is silly. I don't see why we should make banners to make other teams or fanbases happy. Don't think there is any team that makes their banners to make other teams happy. They do it for their own fanbase. Lowell fans know where they came from.

 

[Rox22]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

yes but it's been an issue at amherst for as long as i can remember. it's been an issue at lowell for two weeks.

Not true. I clearly cannot remembering it happening when we used to have no fans there at all.

 

[leswp1]

Re: BU at Lowell, Lowell at BU 10/30-31

Not true. I clearly cannot remembering it happening when we used to have no fans there at all.

Maybe he isn't as old as you are