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there's a good buck in that racket.
have to ask DQ that.
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BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
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have to ask DQ that.
SomedayCameSuddenly
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Goal!
Goal!
Parker Ranger
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
What an effort. 60 minutes worth, too.
What an effort. 60 minutes worth, too.
skatin_terrier
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Couldn't agree more, looked like real BU Hockey for the first time this year.
Made me proud. O'Regan totally earned the goal.
Couldn't agree more, looked like real BU Hockey for the first time this year.
Made me proud. O'Regan totally earned the goal.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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From a source whom I talked to during the weekend of the @ BC & @ Lowell games, let's just say Gill was "less than fully committed" to the program following the coaching change. Kinda forced Quinn's hand.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
BU is officially the new NU of the Beanpot . BC is BU and NU is BC . What is the BP losing streak at now? Honestly this program is going to take another 5 to 8 yrs to get back on track and Quinn won't survive that long . BC sweeps the season and BU will win one more game all year
BU is officially the new NU of the Beanpot . BC is BU and NU is BC . What is the BP losing streak at now? Honestly this program is going to take another 5 to 8 yrs to get back on track and Quinn won't survive that long . BC sweeps the season and BU will win one more game all year
What exactly were you proud about ? That they tried and it was close ? Is that what BU hockey has come to . #laughingstock
defkit
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
I think most of us have accepted that this years team is not a very talented team, and one of the worst BU teams in some time. From that perspective, IMHO, there is nothing wrong with saying you are proud of taking the #2 team to the last minute. Do I wish that BU was so good this year that this loss would be the low point of the season? Sure. But being a realist, I'm pleased with the effort they gave and they darn near sent it to OT. So hashtag it however you want. But I disagree that this team is a laughing stock.
I think most of us have accepted that this years team is not a very talented team, and one of the worst BU teams in some time. From that perspective, IMHO, there is nothing wrong with saying you are proud of taking the #2 team to the last minute. Do I wish that BU was so good this year that this loss would be the low point of the season? Sure. But being a realist, I'm pleased with the effort they gave and they darn near sent it to OT. So hashtag it however you want. But I disagree that this team is a laughing stock.
brassbonanza
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Just rewatched Somerby penalty on DVR....good grief, not even close to a five. Two for a hit from behind for putting his arm on Hayes at the wrong time, but if that's a major, there'd be no one left on the bench by the end of the game.
Just rewatched Somerby penalty on DVR....good grief, not even close to a five. Two for a hit from behind for putting his arm on Hayes at the wrong time, but if that's a major, there'd be no one left on the bench by the end of the game.
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ericredaxe
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Interesting. I wonder if the same for the Privateras too? Without knowing any of the inside story, I'm not sure I like the move.
I can understand an athletes hesitations during a coaching change. I also don't exactly like the concept of a coach having to "sell himself" to some kid. However I can't help but think that a guy who is respected at DQ and apparently well liked among the players could get anyone with hesitations on board with the new program pretty quickly.
I mean, on paper at least, this team is better with those 3 guys.
Jacques Joubert
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
BU played well and had a chance down to the very end. They seem to be getting better and playing with some grit. Good things. I still think the better team won. If they don't continue to improve and play hard, remember they have won only one game in 2014, they could very well end up going 0-3 vs BC, 0-2 vs Harvard, and 0-2 vs NU.
Has BU ever gone winless against the other Beanpot schools?
BU played well and had a chance down to the very end. They seem to be getting better and playing with some grit. Good things. I still think the better team won. If they don't continue to improve and play hard, remember they have won only one game in 2014, they could very well end up going 0-3 vs BC, 0-2 vs Harvard, and 0-2 vs NU.
Has BU ever gone winless against the other Beanpot schools?
Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Certainly you can say this was a better game in terms of effort, but where has that been for the last two months? If they played every game the way they played that game, they would have a chance at a first round bye in the tournament. Four days ago they tie the #43 team in the country and were outshot 49-22. Yesterday they played the #2 team in the country to essentially a 1 goal game and were only outshot 32-28.
While the effort was there yesterday, the difference in skill level was almost more apparent than in other games. There was more passing to no one and there is no movement away from the puck. The forwards dump and chase or dump and change even when there is no pressure entering the zone. The defensemen seem unable to handle even soft passes across the ice with no pressure. There were many occasions (including on the powerplay) where there were only BU players in the defensive zone and one would pass across the ice to the other only to have the puck jump over his stick causing him to bring it back around the net and lose another 10 seconds on the powerplay. The powerplay last night was awful.
And can someone please explain the reasoning behind Quinn putting his best player (by points anyway) in the box for that 5 minute major? I mean I understand that Baillargeon isn't a defenseman and he's a freshman so maybe he doesn't get PK time, but can't you put any player in the box in that situation? Couldn't he have put Lawrence or Collier or Ronan in the box?
And finally, Noonan needs to get his s*** together. Both of those goals were scored directly on him. This team has two senior defensemen captains and they have the worst defense in the league if not the country. Ahti also needs to stop letting the puck go by him at the line and giving up breakaways.
Certainly you can say this was a better game in terms of effort, but where has that been for the last two months? If they played every game the way they played that game, they would have a chance at a first round bye in the tournament. Four days ago they tie the #43 team in the country and were outshot 49-22. Yesterday they played the #2 team in the country to essentially a 1 goal game and were only outshot 32-28.
While the effort was there yesterday, the difference in skill level was almost more apparent than in other games. There was more passing to no one and there is no movement away from the puck. The forwards dump and chase or dump and change even when there is no pressure entering the zone. The defensemen seem unable to handle even soft passes across the ice with no pressure. There were many occasions (including on the powerplay) where there were only BU players in the defensive zone and one would pass across the ice to the other only to have the puck jump over his stick causing him to bring it back around the net and lose another 10 seconds on the powerplay. The powerplay last night was awful.
And can someone please explain the reasoning behind Quinn putting his best player (by points anyway) in the box for that 5 minute major? I mean I understand that Baillargeon isn't a defenseman and he's a freshman so maybe he doesn't get PK time, but can't you put any player in the box in that situation? Couldn't he have put Lawrence or Collier or Ronan in the box?
And finally, Noonan needs to get his s*** together. Both of those goals were scored directly on him. This team has two senior defensemen captains and they have the worst defense in the league if not the country. Ahti also needs to stop letting the puck go by him at the line and giving up breakaways.
Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
From what I was told over the summer I conjecture that if Parker was still the coach Gill would be here, but once he retired no matter who was hired Gill likely wasn't coming back, and not out of some loyalty to Parker (or Bavis). A coach who had known Gill for years could have kept him, one that had only known him for months would have much more trouble doing so.
From what I was told over the summer I conjecture that if Parker was still the coach Gill would be here, but once he retired no matter who was hired Gill likely wasn't coming back, and not out of some loyalty to Parker (or Bavis). A coach who had known Gill for years could have kept him, one that had only known him for months would have much more trouble doing so.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Yes. Not that having Gill and both Priviteras would've been the entire solution, but having 2 more forwards would have at least created some depth and competition for playing time on the 3rd/4th lines. Would have also resulted in someone like Lane or Roberto playing on the 3rd line, strengthening that line.
IMO Alexx, if playing more disciplined, would've had the biggest impact on the team. It'd mean we wouldn't be seeing TJ Ryan starting nor MacAfee playing major minutes, along with MacGregor and Somerby playing in more appropriate minutes as your 5th/6th d-men.
Yes. Not that having Gill and both Priviteras would've been the entire solution, but having 2 more forwards would have at least created some depth and competition for playing time on the 3rd/4th lines. Would have also resulted in someone like Lane or Roberto playing on the 3rd line, strengthening that line.
IMO Alexx, if playing more disciplined, would've had the biggest impact on the team. It'd mean we wouldn't be seeing TJ Ryan starting nor MacAfee playing major minutes, along with MacGregor and Somerby playing in more appropriate minutes as your 5th/6th d-men.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
The oddest part of Gill's departure was its timing (August). If he already made up his mind following the coaching change, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to have departed earlier and not participate in required off-season training and academic activities? From what I was told, Gill's interpretation of "required" deviated during the offseason, hence the "less than fully committed" comment.
The oddest part of Gill's departure was its timing (August). If he already made up his mind following the coaching change, wouldn't it have made more sense for him to have departed earlier and not participate in required off-season training and academic activities? From what I was told, Gill's interpretation of "required" deviated during the offseason, hence the "less than fully committed" comment.
Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
That sounds more like an excuse than a reason.
That sounds more like an excuse than a reason.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix
Not sure. Gill committed to BU in November 2009 (per USHR archives), but don't know how far in advance he'd been on BU's radar:
11/24/09
Terriers Net Gill
5’10”, 180 lb. Chicago Steel LW Sahir Gill has committed to Boston University for next fall.
Gill, a 4/21/92 birthdate who is currently tied for 7th in USHL scoring with a 6-14-20 line, is a pure playmaker with excellent hands and vision. He’s playing the wing now but has also played a lot of center, and projects to play there at Boston University, especially if Nick Bonino leaves to turn pro.
Gill made his final pick from between BU and Northeastern. Other schools that made a push for Gill included North Dakota, Colorado College, Minnesota, and Boston College.
Gill, who’s from Terrace, BC, played last season for the Vernon Vipers, who won the Royal Bank Cup, which goes to the Canadian Tier II champions. In 54 games with Vernon, Gill had an 18-21-35 line.
Not sure. Gill committed to BU in November 2009 (per USHR archives), but don't know how far in advance he'd been on BU's radar:
11/24/09
Terriers Net Gill
5’10”, 180 lb. Chicago Steel LW Sahir Gill has committed to Boston University for next fall.
Gill, a 4/21/92 birthdate who is currently tied for 7th in USHL scoring with a 6-14-20 line, is a pure playmaker with excellent hands and vision. He’s playing the wing now but has also played a lot of center, and projects to play there at Boston University, especially if Nick Bonino leaves to turn pro.
Gill made his final pick from between BU and Northeastern. Other schools that made a push for Gill included North Dakota, Colorado College, Minnesota, and Boston College.
Gill, who’s from Terrace, BC, played last season for the Vernon Vipers, who won the Royal Bank Cup, which goes to the Canadian Tier II champions. In 54 games with Vernon, Gill had an 18-21-35 line.
So it sounds like you are proud as well and I am right that's where BU hockey is at 5 yrs after a NC was going to thrust them back into the elite. It is unacceptable and I am disgusted at every loss and never " proud" of the effort. And Parker being around this team and at the event makes me want to puke. We can't miss you if you don't go away.
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