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BU 2013-14 (Part II): Crash before the Phoenix

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J.D. said:
why would they ask gill not to come back?
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Gill left on his own. BU wanted him back. He was on track to be a 100-point career scorer and was a top PK guy, too. The departure had nothing to do with JP's retirement or the choice of successor. This is all on Sahir. Let's not go off the reservation with conjecture.
 
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I liked the way they played overall and seem to be getting out of their funk so that its only a pure lack of talent holding them back! ;)

Seriously though, I hoped they would show up for this game and they did. Something good to build on when we actually get players who don't look like their skates are made of lead out there.
 
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Terrance said:
And can someone please explain the reasoning behind Quinn putting his best player (by points anyway) in the box for that 5 minute major? I mean I understand that Baillargeon isn't a defenseman and he's a freshman so maybe he doesn't get PK time, but can't you put any player in the box in that situation? Couldn't he have put Lawrence or Collier or Ronan in the box?
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Dillion Lawrence served the penalty. Robbie got a separate roughing call that was matching with Arnold.

http://collegehockeystats.net/1314/boxes/mbc_bu_1.f03
 
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Rogie21 said:
Gill left on his own. BU wanted him back. He was on track to be a 100-point career scorer and was a top PK guy, too. The departure had nothing to do with JP's retirement or the choice of successor. This is all on Sahir. Let's not go off the reservation with conjecture.
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So DQ was just talking about the priv boys?
 
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Don't think this got mentioned here: On Friday Jay Pandolfo retired from the NHL. HE player of the year, 4 Frozen Fours, 9th all-time in goals at BU, 15 years in the pros, and a nice mention on NHL Tonight as an all-around great guy.

edit: Wikipedia says he retired in December. :confused: Oh well. *I* didn't hear about it till NHL Network mentioned it on Friday. :p
 
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Jofa said:
BU is officially the new NU of the Beanpot . BC is BU and NU is BC . What is the BP losing streak at now? Honestly this program is going to take another 5 to 8 yrs to get back on track and Quinn won't survive that long . BC sweeps the season and BU will win one more game all year
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3 years tops they will be top 3 program again
 
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DaveStPaul said:
Don't think this got mentioned here: On Friday Jay Pandolfo retired from the NHL. HE player of the year, 4 Frozen Fours, 9th all-time in goals at BU, 15 years in the pros, and a nice mention on NHL Tonight as an all-around great guy.

edit: Wikipedia says he retired in December. :confused: Oh well. *I* didn't hear about it till NHL Network mentioned it on Friday. :p
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We had it on the blog last Friday. 9th in career goals with 79, 11th in points with 169, HE P-O-Y, Hobey Finalist, played in 4 Final Fours, two N/C games, one NCAA title, 15 NHL seasons, 2 rings.

Great tweet about it from Kenny Rausch, who played three seasons with Pando: "With Jay Pandolfo retiring, there are no former college teammates of mine still playing. We are officially old!"
 
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Hokydad said:
3 years tops they will be top 3 program again
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Hockey Dad, I am fairly sure we know each other and I have enjoyed your posts, knowledge and thoughtful insight over the years, which are clearly based on your proximity to the game. However, there is no way I agree with you here, BU will be good, but they will never overtake BC with their dominance of the 70's 80' and early 90's. Just look at the BC dominance since the arrival of Jerry York, over the last 15 years, BC has how many final fours ? (6) ?, and 4 national championships. He is the difference, just look at his records in hockey back waters like Bowling Green, where he had the program at the top of the nation in a few short years, it's unreal !His BC run is unsurpassed except for perhaps the Herb Brooks teams of Minnesota and Olympics during his tenure.

Those days are long over and BC will not be dethroned as long a Jerry York is alive, and with a contract extension thru 2020, look for him to be the Red Berenson and Joe Paterno of college hockey and if he wants it he will be coaching as long as he wants to and that could be until he is in his 80's.

You know as well as I do that no great local talent is likely to pick BU over NU anymore and those very top Canadian prospects from the nearly 100% Catholic providences like Quebec and the Maritimes their parents would likely push for BC. Not to mention if you do graduate the BC degree especially in the Northeast has more "old boy" value. I have both NU and BU degrees and you can't argue that for the 60% of the kids on either squad who will never set foot on the NFL ice, that factors into your decision. I mean don't get me wrong, I hate BC, but York is a genius, drafting top smaller players, Gerbe, Johnny Hockey, etc, etc, guys who regardless of their point totals, skills and ability are unlikely to get an early NHL red carpet roll out because of the size factor and stick around for the duration of their college eligibility. That's planned !
 
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Agganis said:
I'm confused on which you haven't heard of "Jack Eichel" or "Chelmsford, MA"
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Or "Matt Gryzsdhfkjhdasdflck" "Charlestown, MA," or "Danny O'Regan" "Needham, MA," or "Robbie Baillargeon" "Enfield, CT." Meh, Enfield's basically Springfield. BU losing local talent to Northeastern is not of concern right now, considering the overall level of our incoming talent over the next few years. If he wants to make that argument with respect to BC, that's another story.

Perhaps this is the same guy that went around screaming from the hills after we lost to Providence (hi Jon) in January of 2009 during a big NU win streak that the BU program was falling behind NU and we'd never regain superiority. Oh noez!
 
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RossiRules said:
York is a genius, drafting top smaller players, Gerbe, Johnny Hockey, etc, etc, guys who regardless of their point totals, skills and ability are unlikely to get an early NHL red carpet roll out because of the size factor and stick around for the duration of their college eligibility. That's planned !
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Last I checked, Greg Cronin and co. found Gaudreau not York.
 
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For as long as I’ve been following BU hockey, BC has, for the most part, had the upper-hand with top Massachusetts guys. A few exceptions: BU’s early 70s powerhouses were mostly Canadian, but their success brought guys like O’Callahan, Craig, Silk, and Fidler to BU and the ’78 NC. In the late 80s, BU began getting more of the better Massachusetts guys. Not sure if that began when Ceglarski thought Tony Amonte was a defenseman or when Cedorchuck’s Mickey Math calculator blew a transistor and “scholarship-gate” ensued. And, Catholic Memorial became a BU pipeline for a number of years.

That said, success in Division One demands a national approach to recruiting. Jerry started BC’s resurgence with his upstate New York ties and wisely discarded the Americans only rule. His first title came with big contributions from Kobasew and Kolanos. I don’t know a BU fan who isn’t thrilled with what Steve Greeley has achieved since July 1. Nor one who won’t cheer as loudly when a Letunov-to-Greenway-to-Greer goal is scored as they will when Eichel finishes off passes from MacLeod and Diffley.
 
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I dont want a coach who says "it takes luck to beat BC". With a message from the top like that no wonder most on here are so enamored by a "60 minute effort" in the Beanpot against your main rival! Next please...
 
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Jofa said:
I dont want a coach who says "it takes luck to beat BC". With a message from the top like that no wonder most on here are so enamored by a "60 minute effort" in the Beanpot against your main rival! Next please...
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This comment suggests that you think Quinn is soft and not a competitive person; that he has some sort of inferiority complex with respect to BC; and that rebuilding BU's hockey dominance isn't his priority. Do you honestly think that? Did you expect BU to win this season given the personnel?

I know he said that the BU hockey program wasn't broken, but that's BS. The program is sick. There is no way it gets back its luster without a realistic appraisal of where it's at now. To see the issues they're facing they need to have a humble outlook. Would they have needed luck to beat BC Monday night? Luck? Try divine intervention. If you think otherwise, you're out of touch. Have you seen BU play this season? And, if so, have you seen BC play this season? More concerning would be a coach who'd be flipping chairs and tables after losing a two goal game to the top team in the country. People who take the absolutist "winning is everything" tact have no idea what it actually takes to win. You can't win if you suck. They need better players.

And since when does acknowledging a strong losing effort equal enamored?
 
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