BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

[mpereira]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Can anyone comment on the Nicastro high-sticking call Friday that led to the GWG? I didn't see the game, but two people who did thought it was not a good call.

Also, thoughts on MacGregor, who played well last night and earned kudos from JP and from Tom Ryan, who noted that pro scouts were asking about him. Should he stay in the lineup when Ruikka returns?

I was at the game Friday and the call on NiCastro was just the wrong call. The officiating throughout the game was iffy going both ways. It was after the whistle(I think unless they called it before then and no one noticed the arm go up) when he came in to protect Millan. It is the usual circumstance of matching hitting after the whistle. Either way I think MacGregor has been the most consistent d-man for sure(aka the anti-Clendening). Noonan has been up and down as well along with the freshman Privaterra and Nicastro/Escobedo. I would like to see him stay in there for sure once Ruikka returns and I would like to see what Rosen could do back there as well as it has been pretty ugly back there at times especially at Providence Friday.

 

[mookie1995]

Can anyone comment on the Nicastro high-sticking call Friday that led to the GWG? I didn't see the game, but two people who did thought it was not a good call.

pc guy crashed the net. after the whistle all the tough guys on the ice started pushing and nicastro pushed a kid back against the glass with his hands up in the pc guys face. stupid, stupid **** that they pull all the time. should have gotten a penalty for idiocy. he was the most aggressive of the collection of fools. he took the box. bu lost.

lesson learned? or will he be that fool next time.

 

[defkit]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Can anyone comment on the Nicastro high-sticking call Friday that led to the GWG? I didn't see the game, but two people who did thought it was not a good call.

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Definitely a bad call. The Friar went plowing into the crease, and Nicastro didn't do anything worse than the Friar during the ensuing pushing and shoving. I expected one of two things to happen:

1) 2 mins to Nicastro, 4 mins to the Friar (this would have been the right call IMHO)
2) matching

 

[mookie1995]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

the puck moved from the lw circle to the right side. millan didn't have control and the kid went after it. the whistle hadn't blown (though i may have missed it as the 'f b u' chants were pretty loud D). but either way, nicastro realizes that his guys do the same thing, right?

just a dumb thing to do. hug someone, but why give a ref the opportunity to blow? if anything yell at him and tell him you are doing the same thing to the goalie on the other side if he's gonna let it go. why even give the zebra moron a chance to even things up?

(pet peeve

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

BU played very well defensively for 40 minutes and was opportunistic in taking advantage of DUs blunders. DU finally settled in late in the game and was all over BU by the end. Very bad call on DU at the end...their players had a right to be upset. It had the feel of DU tying it up if the game went a little longer (or if the "penalty" wasn't called)

Good game to be at.

That was a penalty. Can you argue the timing and maybe the ref should swallow his whistle? Sure, there's some argument there. But Chiasson got a step on his guy off the faceoff win for DU, and the DU guy reached back and held Chiasson, impeding his ability to get back and cover the point man who received the faceoff. There was not stretching of the rule, it was a textbook hold. Only argument is the timing of it.

 

[Tater]

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BU played very well defensively for 40 minutes and was opportunistic in taking advantage of DUs blunders. DU finally settled in late in the game and was all over BU by the end. Very bad call on DU at the end...their players had a right to be upset. It had the feel of DU tying it up if the game went a little longer (or if the "penalty" wasn't called)

Good game to be at.

That was a penalty. Can you argue the timing and maybe the ref should swallow his whistle? Sure, there's some argument there. But Chiasson got a step on his guy off the faceoff win for DU, and the DU guy reached back and held Chiasson, impeding his ability to get back and cover the point man who received the faceoff. There was not stretching of the rule, it was a textbook hold. Only argument is the timing of it.

JD - this. Yes, I was at the game.

 

[Tater]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

Can anyone comment on the Nicastro high-sticking call Friday that led to the GWG? I didn't see the game, but two people who did thought it was not a good call.

Definitely a bad call. The Friar went plowing into the crease, and Nicastro didn't do anything worse than the Friar during the ensuing pushing and shoving. I expected one of two things to happen:

1) 2 mins to Nicastro, 4 mins to the Friar (this would have been the right call IMHO)
2) matching

I thought it was going to be matching.

 

[reBlur]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

For what it's worth, this is what Trivino had to say about his boarding call Saturday, and he made it seem like this was his thought on the reffing period Saturday night.

"I don’t want to comment on my penalty but just say I guess when you’re playing physical hockey, emotions get into it and I guess the ref calls what he sees."

 

[Federal League]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

When asked what he thought about that final penalty, Gwozdecky asked if he could be fined for making comments about non-WCHA refs. After being informed that he could, he basically just said that everyone makes mistakes. I definitely became a fan of Gwozdecky after covering both of Denver's games this weekend. Both funny and cordial.

 

[Bomber]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

On the Nicastro penalty Friday night: It was an iffy call, but putting yourself in a position to take a penalty shortly after tying up the game is the kind of crap that drives me nuts. And happens way to often with this team. Just. Stop.

BU Hockey: Get Smarter

 

[J.D.]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

That was a penalty. Can you argue the timing and maybe the ref should swallow his whistle? Sure, there's some argument there. But Chiasson got a step on his guy off the faceoff win for DU, and the DU guy reached back and held Chiasson, impeding his ability to get back and cover the point man who received the faceoff. There was not stretching of the rule, it was a textbook hold. Only argument is the timing of it.

When asked what he thought about that final penalty, Gwozdecky asked if he could be fined for making comments about non-WCHA refs. After being informed that he could, he basically just said that everyone makes mistakes. I definitely became a fan of Gwozdecky after covering both of Denver's games this weekend. Both funny and cordial.

Exactly. No surprise that it was seen two different ways. After seeing the replay, I just didn't see any type of "hold" that should be called. I thought I read in the DU thread that Gwozdecky said something about "home cooking", but I have no idea if that was in a direct quote.

I know the SOG totals might disagree, but I thought the best thing BU did all night was get in lanes and block shots.

 

[Federal League]

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Exactly. No surprise that it was seen two different ways. After seeing the replay, I just didn't see any type of "hold" that should be called. I thought I read in the DU thread that Gwozdecky said something about "home cooking", but I have no idea if that was in a direct quote.

I know the SOG totals might disagree, but I thought the best thing BU did all night was get in lanes and block shots.

He definitely didn't say anything about home cooking during his press conference, but maybe he did in his radio interview. Personally, I thought it was a penalty. I probably would've called it interference instead of holding, but Chiasson was definitely obstructed as he tried to get back to the defenseman, and from my vantage point, it looked intentional rather than incidental. It basically looked like a set pick in basketball, which -- as Parker mentioned -- college hockey is trying to crack down on this year.

 

[J.D.]

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I'll tell you what college hockey should crack down on, the over the top scrutiny placed on each and every faceoff. Why is it in the NHL you don't have refs away from the faceoff throwing people out of the dot?

 

[goalguard]

I'll tell you what college hockey should crack down on, the over the top scrutiny placed on each and every faceoff. Why is it in the NHL you don't have refs away from the faceoff throwing people out of the dot?

Gotta disagree. Players should square up and have an even draw. It's not hard but last year everyone was cheating. And NU's late goal in game three of the HE playoffs was off an illegal face-off. You don't see players waved out in the NHL because they don't cheat.

 

[Harry Cleverly]

Re: BU 2011-2012 Season: The bar is low, boys!

how much difference is there between 19-20 yr old kids at say Wisconsin vs KIDS, yes KIDS 19-20 yrs old at Providence, BU or BC?? I'm ,now, "just sayin"

It is not just about the student body. It is also about the administration.

You may recall a story in Sports Illustrated a few years ago about BU cutting down on what is acceptable language and what is not. A certain word was cut out of a BC chant, for instance.
It seems that something, or someone "sukks" is about the bottom of what is let go everywhere across the country.

If that were BU students chanting at the PC section at Agganis what they were chanting at the BU fans at Schneider, it is very doubtful it would have been allowed. Surely someone would have said something.

The president of PC was at the game. So were several other brothers in the cream colored robes. They didn't appear to say anything, or instruct anyone to do anything about it.
Is that how they want their student body to be presented in a public forum?

Sure, it is a hockey game. But it is also family entertainment.

I like a game with an edge to it, and some banter between the two sides. Even better when it is clever.
What went on during Friday night's game should have been unacceptable to the PC administration present at the game. Because I doubt it does anything to promote their educational mission.
They should have been embarrassed.

 

[J.D.]

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Gotta disagree. Players should square up and have an even draw. It's not hard but last year everyone was cheating. And NU's late goal in game three of the HE playoffs was off an illegal face-off. You don't see players waved out in the NHL because they don't cheat.

Come on, guys at this level and above are all looking for an edge in faceoffs. Just seems to me college refs are way more anal about it.

 

[ericredaxe]

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You have dismissed the possibility that Providence could be the best team in the conference. They are undefeated after all.

Sarcasm aside, obviously nobody thinks they will be the best team in the conference... but they also might not be last years Providence team. Lets say then end up being a middle of the pack Hockey East team, then that would make Fridays loss (home opener, first game with new coach) not seem quite as bad.

 

[PC91]

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The president of PC was at the game. So were several other brothers in the cream colored robes.

I didn't see the Fr. Shanley at the game. It wouldn't surprise me if he was there as he goes often to the sporting events. I just didn't see him. I'm sure he was embarrassed as were a number of PC fans who attend games on a regular basis. It was a poor performance on the part of fans who normally attend basketball games and avoid hockey like the plague. I loved their turnout and energy but wasn't psyched with the FU chants.
I'm sure that will be addressed moving forward. The guys in the cream colored robes are priests and they didn't look too happy. I saw a few priests redirecting some of the students so they were clearly not pleased with the language.

 

[buoldtimer]

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Sarcasm aside, obviously nobody thinks they will be the best team in the conference... but they also might not be last years Providence team. Lets say then end up being a middle of the pack Hockey East team, then that would make Fridays loss (home opener, first game with new coach) not seem quite as bad.

A pretty miserable PC team defeated the BU team, at BU, that went on to win the NC in 2009. It happens. One of the worst BU teams I've seen defeated Minnesota in 1989. Minnesota went on to play in the NC game

 

[ericredaxe]

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So I wonder who gave us our first place vote in the current poll?