Bracketology

[Priceless]

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The Union/QU game will not have an impact on the bracketology:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Denver			Boston College		Miami		Wisconsin
St Cloud		North Dakota		Yale		Bemidji
Cornell			Ferris St		UNH		Alaska
CHA Champ		UMD			AHA Champ	NMU

 

[bottomdweller]

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The Union/QU game will not have an impact on the bracketology:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Denver			Boston College		Miami		Wisconsin
St Cloud		North Dakota		Yale		Bemidji
Cornell			Ferris St		UNH		Alaska
CHA Champ		UMD			AHA Champ	NMU

Why would UMD be in over UML?

edit: nm, saw the RPI... thought they would have arranged them via RPI when tied.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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Anyone who thinks the winner of a CHA AQ doesn't deserve to be in the postseason needs to ask Jeff Jackson what he thought after his team had to go 2OT to beat Alabama-Huntsville in 1997.

Even more recent than that - it was 2007.

The Union/QU game will not have an impact on the bracketology:

[B]Worcester[/B]
Boston College
North Dakota
Ferris St
UMD

Yikes, no thank you. Though it's looking almost certain that BC and NoDak will be in the same bracket.

 

[uwbadgers14]

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St. Cloud as a #1, yeah right! We just lost to Mankato, again. If the Huskies lose to Kato tomorrow are they still in the tourney unless a number of teams outside the top 14 win their tourney? I'm just waiting for the news that the Huskies will be the team to get bumped out if they lose tomorrow. Frustrating.

I think they are pretty safe for the tournament although Bemidji St losing isn't going to help...

 

[Priceless]

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Anyone who thinks the winner of a CHA AQ doesn't deserve to be in the postseason needs to ask Jeff Jackson what he thought after his team had to go 2OT to beat Alabama-Huntsville in 1997.

That Alabama-Huntsville team had to win all three games, coming from behind in each one, to make the NCAA's.

I'm not saying UAH had a good team that year---it was pretty mediocre by our standards. But they were hot at the right time of year, which is March.

GFM

Respectfully disagree. In a one game playoff, things can happen. Even AIC could beat Denver or Miami if we give them enough chances. This may be the only time people root for a rout rather than an upset. There is no way the 44th or 45th best team deserves to be in the tournament more than the 15th best team. But the NCAA didn't revoke the CHA's autobid, so here we are.

 

[Priceless]

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The TUC line:

21	Boston Univ	0.5216
22	Minnesota	0.5177
23	Union	        0.5169
24	Mass-Amherst	0.5153
25	Maine	        0.5145
---
26	NorthEastern	0.5121
27	RIT	        0.5101
28	MSU-Mankato	0.5100
29	Ohio State	0.5073
30	St Lawrence	0.5047

There could be some changes in TUC status tonight if things play out just right...

 

[Biddco]

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The TUC line:

21	Boston Univ	0.5216
22	Minnesota	0.5177
23	Union	        0.5169
24	Mass-Amherst	0.5153
25	Maine	        0.5145
---
26	NorthEastern	0.5121
27	RIT	        0.5101
28	MSU-Mankato	0.5100
29	Ohio State	0.5073
30	St Lawrence	0.5047

There could be some changes in TUC status tonight if things play out just right...

If MSU-Mankato wins tonight, and that is a big if, would that make them a TUC?

UMD is 4-0 against them and that would really boost our PWR. Can anyone figure this out for me?

 

[i'zonprize]

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The Union/QU game will not have an impact on the bracketology:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Denver			Boston College		Miami		Wisconsin
St Cloud		North Dakota		Yale		Bemidji
Cornell			Ferris St		UNH		Alaska
CHA Champ		UMD			AHA Champ	NMU

Not getting this at all.. #8 in PWR(#7 KRACH) UNH would be the last #2 seed, no? Someone(if it all ended today) would have to bump them down? Yale or Cornell, given their tie would both earn #3 seeds, going by PWR. UML beats UMD in the PWR head to head..


Albany -
#1Denver-
#2UNH-
#3Cornell-
#4AHA/CHA
*DU's overall number #1 earns the right to play the last seed) - Clean, no inter conf. should draw a decent crowd for Cornell/UNH. -IF Niagra gets in, it would be a great addition for crowd support. UNH in recent isn't travelling w/ masses west of Worcester.

Worcester -
#1BC
#2St. Cloud
#3Yale
#4NMU
Again, Clean no inter conf. possibility, BC and Yale draw crowds

Fort Wayne -
#1Miami -
#2No.Dak-
#3Ferris -
#4AHA/CHA
(yes- posible Ferris/Miami match-up, but lets be real, plenty of times have inter conf. foes have met for the right to advance to the FF) - Crowd should be pretty darn good.

St. Paul -
#1Wisco-
#2Bimidji-
#3Alaska-
#4UML(both UML &/or UMD win autobids and things get interesting) -at this moment UML wins the head to head over UMD in the pwr table)

 

[kingdobbs]

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It's not automatic, but the AHA Champ can still be ranked lower than Niagara or Huntsville (44th and 45th in RPI. Mercyhurst, Army and Holy Cross are all ranked lower and still alive. Air Force and Canisius are also ranked in the 40's.

UConn is still alive as well at #57, which is just about the worst team still alive. For what it's worth, Brown, Harvard and Michigan Tech are still alive and lower than the potential CHA autobid, but Brown would probably get enough RPI points to pass the CHA team if they swept through the rest of the ECAC. Not sure about Harvard or Michigan Tech, as I think they've dug a too deep hole to get anything but #16.

 

[Patman]

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St. Paul - #1Wisco-#2Bimidji- #3Alaska- #4UML/UMD(both UML &/or UMD win autobids and things get interesting)

if either UML or UMD get an autobid i'm not sure what "interesting" they may be because either may play themselves up to a 3 seed.

 

[WildShawn]

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The TUC line:

21	Boston Univ	0.5216
22	Minnesota	0.5177
23	Union	        0.5169
24	Mass-Amherst	0.5153
25	Maine	        0.5145
---
26	NorthEastern	0.5121
27	RIT	        0.5101
28	MSU-Mankato	0.5100
29	Ohio State	0.5073
30	St Lawrence	0.5047

There could be some changes in TUC status tonight if things play out just right...

Any chance of NU being bumped back into TUC status? Obviously as a UNH fan, it'd be nice to see Maine drop out (1-2-0) and NU jump over them (2-0-1), but UMass staying in the top 25 (2-1-0) would be good for UNH too I assume (?)

 

[unh1982]

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Any chance of NU being bumped back into TUC status? Obviously as a UNH fan, it'd be nice to see Maine drop out (1-2-0) and NU jump over them (2-0-1), but UMass staying in the top 25 (2-1-0) would be good for UNH too I assume (?)

It would stand to reason that if maine loses again , they will fall below Northeastern, but the team to watch out for is minn mank. they beat st cloud last night i believe

 

[gfmorris]

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Even more recent than that - it was 2007.

Wow, that was embarrassing. I conflated my freshman year of college with our lone D-I tournament appearance. Ouch.

GFM

 

[i'zonprize]

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if either UML or UMD get an autobid i'm not sure what "interesting" they may be because either may play themselves up to a 3 seed.

Right now they are both on the bubble as you can be - both could be OUT or both could be IN, IMO.I tihnk anytime you turn an at large team into an Auto-team when you are on the bubble- it's interesting.. sa in any team with a better PWR ranking could be out.. would not nec. have affect on UML or UMD themselves. But I'm pulling for the Riverhawks.. .. Ijust hope they don't get put in Worcester w/ BC.. would like to see them skate against Bimidji and Wisco. You guys have the speed.

 

[WildShawn]

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It would stand to reason that if maine loses again , they will fall below Northeastern, but the team to watch out for is minn mank. they beat st cloud last night i believe

True. If there was someway for NU (2-0-1) and UMass (2-1-0) (and of course UVM (4-0-1) to stay in and Maine to drop out, UNH's position would be solidified, I'd imagine. Not sure how much room they'd have to move up, but with only the top 14 (as of now, barring another upset) in, it'd be nice to have a cushion... of course, if UNH advances to the Garden next week, I'd have to think they're in good shape as it is...

 

[unh1982]

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True. If there was someway for NU (2-0-1) and UMass (2-1-0) (and of course UVM (4-0-1) to stay in and Maine to drop out, UNH's position would be solidified, I'd imagine. Not sure how much room they'd have to move up, but with only the top 14 (as of now, barring another upset) in, it'd be nice to have a cushion... of course, if UNH advances to the Garden next week, I'd have to think they're in good shape as it is...

as of now they are 8 in the pairwise , i would think there set , win or lose and i think your going to see some upsets .

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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If MSU-Mankato wins tonight, and that is a big if, would that make them a TUC?

UMD is 4-0 against them and that would really boost our PWR. Can anyone figure this out for me?

If Mankato wins tonight, not taking into account any other games, their RPI would bump up to .5143. They would need either UMass or Maine to lose to jump up into TUC.

 

[Priceless]

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St. Paul -
#1Wisco-
#2Bimidji-
#3Alaska-
#4UML(both UML &/or UMD win autobids and things get interesting) -at this moment UML wins the head to head over UMD in the pwr table)

Ties in the PWR are broken by RPI, not who wins the comparison. UMD would win the spot, and therefore could not be paired with Wisconsin.

 

[Priceless]

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If Maine or UMass lose tonight, there is a chance NE will pass them to become a TUC. Union appears to be safe for now.

Teams that could become a TUC:

Northeastern. They're done, so their RPI won't change too much. If Maine loses, they're in. If UMass loses, it'll be close. If UMass loses tonight and they're both done, only a few thousandths of a point would separate the two.

RIT. Keep winning in their conference tournament and they can play their way up to around 20 in the RPI and will be a TUC.

If Mankato wins tonight they'll be on the cusp of TUC status. If they attain TUC status, it will be very difficult for them to keep it. A loss at the F5 would leave them just below Northeastern.

 

[i'zonprize]

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Ties in the PWR are broken by RPI, not who wins the comparison. UMD would win the spot, and therefore could not be paired with Wisconsin.

ok. in that scenario they would likely not play eachother first rd. NCAA has done a fine job over the yrs avoiding first rd matchup's.. second rd however, not so much you can do about it. Say they get in.. you swap them back to Worcester #4 were you had them.. fixed!