Bracketology

[BC/HE]

Re: Bracketology

Bemidji better win the autobid. If someone else wins it, half the conference qualifies for the NCAA tournament and the field of at-large berths shrinks by one.

I don't think Bemidji is a lock yet. There is a consolation game in the CHA and should they lose 2 this weekend they could fall as low as #15 which would put them out in this case. Other surprise autobids could lower the cut off down to as low as #10 but most likely it would not be lower than one or two more if any.

 

[Greg Ambrose]

Re: Bracketology

If Denver is the #1 seed, I don't see the logic of "rewarding" them by having them play in one of the east regionals. They should be in St. Paul, Miami in Indianapolis, Wisconsin in Albany (where they can commemorate the vacating of their second place finish in '92) and BC, if they are indeed a #1, in Worcester.

 

[ts8801]

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If Denver is the #1 seed, I don't see the logic of "rewarding" them by having them play in one of the east regionals. They should be in St. Paul, Miami in Indianapolis, Wisconsin in Albany (where they can commemorate the vacating of their second place finish in '92) and BC, if they are indeed a #1, in Worcester.

or you they realize a flight is a flight and put a team(UW) there that will actually get fans in the seats.

 

[J.D.]

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Using straight bracket integrity:

1. Denver
2. Alaska
3. Yale
4. RIT

1. Miami
2. Bemidji State
3. New Hampshire
4. Massachusetts

1. Wisconsin
2. St. Cloud State
3. Cornell
4. Northern Michigan

1. Boston College
2. North Dakota
3. Michigan State
4. Ferris State

This would cause some attendance issues no matter where you actually placed the clusters.

 

[LTsatch]

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Hypothetical question, if a star player on a bubble team is injured late in the season or during the conference playoffs, but the team has enough wins to contend for a spot, will the committee use this as a factor for deciding an at large bid or is it based on team stats only?

 

[Nels1jac]

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Wow had no idea BSU's tie with Alabama-Huntsville would hurt so much! From #4 to #7! As another post said, two losses in the CHA tournament, and the Beavers really could miss the tourney, that would be unbelievable! Lets just hope the Beavers can get that Auto-bid, and the worries of having to settle for an At-Large can be put to sleep.

The bracketology:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Boston College		Denver			Miami		Wisconsin
North Dakota		Alaska			Bemidji		St. Cloud
Cornell			UNH			MSU		Yale
Ferris St		AHA Champ		Mass		NMU

The TUC line

21	Michigan	0.5205
22	Maine	        0.5188
23	Mass-Amherst	0.5187
24	Boston Univ	0.5186
25	Minnesota	0.5170
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26	NorthEastern	0.5126
27	Ohio State	0.5096
28	RIT	        0.5072
29	MSU-Mankato	0.5071
30	Merrimack	0.5066

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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This would cause some attendance issues no matter where you actually placed the clusters.

Not really:

1. Denver
2. Alaska
3. Yale
4. RIT

Albany

1. Miami
2. Bemidji State
3. New Hampshire
4. Massachusetts

Ft. Wayne

1. Wisconsin
2. St. Cloud State
3. Cornell
4. Northern Michigan

St. Paul

1. Boston College
2. North Dakota
3. Michigan State
4. Ferris State

Worcester

 

[Pucky-Bucky Backer]

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Wisconsin in Albany (where they can commemorate the vacating of their second place finish in '92).

Can we have $hitty ECAC refs again? You know the ones; they like to give 5-on-3 power plays (twice) in a Championship game.
What ever happened to that D-bag? Is he still fixing games? Maybe he moved on to the NBA and is working for the casino sports books.

 

[davyd83]

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Hypothetical question, if a star player on a bubble team is injured late in the season or during the conference playoffs, but the team has enough wins to contend for a spot, will the committee use this as a factor for deciding an at large bid or is it based on team stats only?

It's based strictly on the Pair Wise Comparisons. The committee has no input into who is in and who is not. Basically, their sole responsibility is to assign which regionals the teams will play at.

 

[bronconick]

Re: Bracketology

Hypothetical question, if a star player on a bubble team is injured late in the season or during the conference playoffs, but the team has enough wins to contend for a spot, will the committee use this as a factor for deciding an at large bid or is it based on team stats only?

Nope. Pairwise only.

 

[J.D.]

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Not really:

Albany

Ft. Wayne


St. Paul

Worcester

I certainly agree that this is what the committee would do. I would still have concerns about the Midwest and East regionals though. I know nothing about the RIT fanbase, but can't imagine Yale bringing a ton. And Miami alone in the Midwest? Ideally, you'd have a second team nearby.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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It's based strictly on the Pair Wise Comparisons. The committee has no input into who is in and who is not. Basically, their sole responsibility is to assign which regionals the teams will play at.

Nope. Pairwise only.

I always assumed this was the case as well, but two years ago, the women's committee selected the #9 team into the women's tournament over the #8 team, because they viewed the #9 team's comparison wins as more significant than the #8 team's comparison wins (as in, RPI, TUC, COP, H2H between the #8 and #9 teams).

 

[burgie12]

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If RIT does indeed win the AHA tourney, they will show up in droves to anywhere other than St. Paul. It's their first NCAA berth, and they will be excited.

Yale may bring one or two hundred fans, but I wouldn't expect too many more.

 

[Priceless]

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Using straight bracket integrity:

1. Denver
2. Alaska
3. Yale
4. RIT

1. Miami
2. Bemidji State
3. New Hampshire
4. Massachusetts

1. Wisconsin
2. St. Cloud State
3. Cornell
4. Northern Michigan

1. Boston College
2. North Dakota
3. Michigan State
4. Ferris State

This would cause some attendance issues no matter where you actually placed the clusters.

Maybe, but you can solve any attendance (and flight) issues by switching a couple of three seeds (UNH, MSU) which the committee has shown a tendency to do. That doesn't screw up bracket integrity too much. The #1 and #2 seeds are going to be paired since there are currently no hosts to gum up the works.

 

[Puck Swami]

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If Denver is the #1 seed, I don't see the logic of "rewarding" them by having them play in one of the east regionals. They should be in St. Paul, Miami in Indianapolis, Wisconsin in Albany (where they can commemorate the vacating of their second place finish in '92) and BC, if they are indeed a #1, in Worcester.

Under current bracketology, I think Denver would likely MUCH rather rather play in the East than in St. Paul. DU is a small school, and wont have more than 100 fans at any regional due to distance.

 

[yhforlife]

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Hypothetical question, if a star player on a bubble team is injured late in the season or during the conference playoffs, but the team has enough wins to contend for a spot, will the committee use this as a factor for deciding an at large bid or is it based on team stats only?

Don't worry about this. I think Yale is still the favorite to win the ECAC tourney. they should be fine without Backs.

 

[GreatLakerMohawk]

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Nobody wants to go to Albany. Ever. For any reason. Just be glad you've never had to play a 3-game playoff series there - most boringest 3 days of my life...

You should talk to some of your Cornell brethren because they've had a pretty good time there win or lose the last few years.

 

[Kepler]

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You should talk to some of your Cornell brethren because they've had a pretty good time there win or lose the last few years.

I know I have. At least I think I have. So, point made.

And lest people think Albany is bad, Atlantic City beckons.

 

[LynahFan]

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I know I have. At least I think I have. So, point made.

And lest people think Albany is bad, Atlantic City beckons.

Don't get me wrong - AC is far worse. But that doesn't make Albany any more fun. The only consistently fun thing in Albany was the company I traveled with.

Edit: I wouldn't exactly recommend Ithaca as an awesome vacation destination, either, if it makes you feel any better. Just call 'em like I see 'em.

 

[Priceless]

Re: Bracketology

Today's bracketology:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Boston College		Denver			Miami		Wisconsin
North Dakota		St Cloud		Alaska		Bemidji
MSU			Yale			UNH		Cornell
Ferris St		AHA Champ		UMD		NMU

To fix attendance issues:

[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Boston College		Denver			Miami		Wisconsin
North Dakota		St Cloud		Alaska		Bemidji
Cornell			UNH			Yale		MSU
Ferris St		AHA Champ		UMD		NMU

The TUC line:

21	Minnesota	0.5215
22	Michigan	0.5202
23	Maine	        0.5186
24	Mass-Amherst	0.5185
25	Boston Univ	0.5184
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26	NorthEastern	0.5124
27	Ohio State	0.5097
28	RIT	        0.5073
29	MSU-Mankato	0.5068
30	Merrimack	0.5064