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Bracketology

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Priceless said:
Today's bracketology:

Code: 
[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Wisconsin		St Cloud		Miami		Denver
BC			Bemidji			Maine		CC
Mich State		UNH			UMD		Cornell
Yale			Vermont			AHA Champ	Mass

To reduce flights for the #1 seeds:

Code: 
[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Denver			St Cloud		Miami		Wisconsin
CC			Bemidji			Maine		BC
Cornell			UNH			UMD		Mich State
Mass			Vermont			AHA Champ	Yale


The TUC line:

Code: 
21	AK-Fairbanks	0.5221
22	Mass-Lowell	0.5212
23	Northern Mich	0.5211
24	Michigan	0.5206
25	Boston Univ	0.5187
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26	NE-Omaha	0.5183
27	Minnesota	0.5143
28	RPI	        0.5102
29	St Lawrence	0.5050
30	Notre Dame	0.5035
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Want an awesome regional? Put St. Cloud State, Bemidji State, and Minnesota-Duluth in St. Paul...
 
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moose97 said:
As was noted, BSU is still t5 in the PWR after losing back-to-back games to Bobby Mo (who, btw, is #39 in the RPI)...

NMU (or any team 13+ PWR) better be huge BSU fans right now, as the Beavs have apparently done enough for an at large bid (assuming they play at mimimum .500 hockey from this point out). This means that if they "blow the CHA Playoffs," the CHA likely gets two teams in, and someone like NMU or another 13+ PWR gets left out...
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I know, thats what I was saying. NMU isnt likely to move up to the top 13-14 in the PWR, so it may be hard breaking through.

How much is the committee bound by taking the top 16,15,14,13 whatever it may be after tourney time?
 
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Assuming games stand the way they are:


Code: 
[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Wisconsin		St Cloud	        Miami		Denver
BC			Bemidji			Yale		CC
Mich State		UNH			UMD		Vermont
Cornell			Mass			AHA Champ	UND

To reduce flights for #1 seeds

Code: 
[B]Albany			Worcester		Fort Wayne	St. Paul[/B]
Denver			St Cloud		Miami		Wisconsin
CC			Bemidji			Yale		BC
Vermont			UNH			UMD		Mich State
Mass			Cornell			AHA Champ	UND

The TUC line:

Code: 
21	Northern Mich	0.5242
22	NE-Omaha	0.5220
23	AK-Fairbanks	0.5216
24	Mass-Lowell	0.5189
25	Lake Superior	0.5184
26	Michigan	0.5158
27	Minnesota	0.5125
28	St Lawrence	0.5040
29	RPI	        0.5035
30	Notre Dame	0.5034
 
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NMU8405 said:
I know, thats what I was saying. NMU isnt likely to move up to the top 13-14 in the PWR, so it may be hard breaking through.

How much is the committee bound by taking the top 16,15,14,13 whatever it may be after tourney time?
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Determines how many teams use autobids. Right now looks like there would be 15 after Atlantic Hockey, but you never know who is going to win the conference tourneys.
 
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Rather than have WCHA teams face each other in the first round, I just flipped St. Cloud State and Bemidji State as they're tied in the PWR anyway.

Midwest:

1. Miami
2. Yale
3. Minnesota-Duluth
4. RIT

Northeast:

1. Denver
2. CC
3. UNH
4. UMass

East:

1. Wisconsin
2. BC
3. Mich State
4. Cornell

West:

1. Bemidji State
2. St. Cloud State
3. Vermont
4. North Dakota
 
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Priceless said:
I'd guess not all games are included yet in one of them.

Edit: CHN doesn't have the BSU win.
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Ah, good catch, and thanks for the analysis you put together on here!

I think CHN actually had that score incorrect last night (had it reversed, 5-2 w for Bobby Mo), but fixed now..
 
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J.D. said:
Rather than have WCHA teams face each other in the first round, I just flipped St. Cloud State and Bemidji State as they're tied in the PWR anyway.

West:

1. Bemidji State
2. St. Cloud State
3. Vermont
4. North Dakota
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They're not gonna "flip" BSU and SCSU, even if they're tied in PWR, as that makes BSU a #1 seed and SCSU a #2 seed. That's too big a punishment for the Huskies just to avoid a WCHA first-round match-ou...
 
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J.D. said:
Rather than have WCHA teams face each other in the first round, I just flipped St. Cloud State and Bemidji State as they're tied in the PWR anyway.
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As I understand it, there's really no such thing as "tied in the PWR" because the committee looks at the individual comparisons won rather than tallying up the numbers of comparisons won. So for their purposes, St. Cloud and Bemidji aren't tied at all - St. Cloud is ahead, pure and simple, so there's no reason for them to even consider switching, especially across bands (as moose97 points out).
 
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J.D. said:
Rather than have WCHA teams face each other in the first round, I just flipped St. Cloud State and Bemidji State as they're tied in the PWR anyway.

Midwest:

1. Miami
2. Yale
3. Minnesota-Duluth
4. RIT

Northeast:

1. Denver
2. CC
3. UNH
4. UMass

East:

1. Wisconsin
2. BC
3. Mich State
4. Cornell

West:

1. Bemidji State
2. St. Cloud State
3. Vermont
4. North Dakota
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The committee is not, not, NOT going to have teams switch bands. The first part of the process is to break any ties and then place teams in bands. St. Cloud is in the band of #1 seeds and Bemidji is in the band of #2 seeds. If the committee wanted to avoid a first round matchup, they'd have UND play Miami, but I think they'd see this as too big a penalty for the #1 overall seed, and the WCHA has six teams in the tournament so the committee is under no requirement to avoid a first round matchup.
 
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Priceless said:
The committee is not, not, NOT going to have teams switch bands. The first part of the process is to break any ties and then place teams in bands. St. Cloud is in the band of #1 seeds and Bemidji is in the band of #2 seeds. If the committee wanted to avoid a first round matchup, they'd have UND play Miami, but I think they'd see this as too big a penalty for the #1 overall seed, and the WCHA has six teams in the tournament so the committee is under no requirement to avoid a first round matchup.
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Agree that the bands will stay the same, but not sure about the "#1 seed penalty." It would be a mess shifting UND all the way to Miami's regional, but there's no reason for UND and St Cloud to play in the first round of the tourney after 4 regular-season games, and another possible meeting in the WCHA Final Five. I think that carries more weight than "protecting" the #1 seed's matchup with RIT.
For my money:
Fort Wayne
1) Mia*
8) Yale
9) UMD
13) UND*

Worcester (a flight's a flight)
2) Denver
7) CC
10) UNH*
15) MA*
(Gold Pan or Frozen Four?)

Albany
3) WI
6) BC*
11) MSU
14) Cornell*

St. Paul
4) St. Cloud*
5) Bemidji*
12) VT
16) RIT
* = ticket sellers
 
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Put Cornell in Albany and you have a sellout. Simple as that. Doesn't matter who else is there.

Edit: The post I quoted has been deleted???
 
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AFHockeyFan said:
Agree that the bands will stay the same, but not sure about the "#1 seed penalty." It would be a mess shifting UND all the way to Miami's regional, but there's no reason for UND and St Cloud to play in the first round of the tourney after 4 regular-season games, and another possible meeting in the WCHA Final Five. I think that carries more weight than "protecting" the #1 seed's matchup with RIT.
For my money:


St. Paul
4) St. Cloud*
5) Bemidji*
12) VT
16) RIT
* = ticket sellers
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So St. Cloud is the lowest seed of the #1's and their reward is to 1) Stay in St. Paul while 2 higher seeds are shipped east, and 2) play the lowest of the #4 seeds in the first round.
 
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